Making announcements is easy. Performing in real-life devices with the new SoCs will be the proof of the pudding. Samsung has always improved on previous SoC performance, but has always lagged Apple ARM SoCs in real-life performance. But kudos to Samsung for pushing the envelope. Competition has gotten us where we are.
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Samsung Announces World's First 2nm Mobile Chip Ahead of Apple
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SactoGuy18
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groove-agent
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It seems like a lot of focus on processing power for a phone. It seems overkill sometimes. However, with foldables it now takes the phone and starts to turn it into a tablet, and hopefully one day a low-compromise computer.
My dream is to have one computer, namely an iPhone fold that will act as a tablet and when docked, a desktop computer. Imagine carrying your computer around wherever you go, and not having to juggle all three devices during your day.
One can dream.
My dream is to have one computer, namely an iPhone fold that will act as a tablet and when docked, a desktop computer. Imagine carrying your computer around wherever you go, and not having to juggle all three devices during your day.
One can dream.
rp2011
macrumors 68040
Competition is not just good, it is neccesary. Imagine if Apple hadn't jumped in and we were stuck with Intel? The computer world would be a far worse place. Moving from Intel Windows to a M1 Mac was night and day. My M-Series Macs are the best computers I have ever own by far.
Doesn’t really mean much. Coming in ‘first’ doesn’t always mean you win. Samsung products are basically just disposable throwaways as far as I’m concerned. Phones are mediocre with 10lbs of stuff in a 5lb bag, their refrigerators are junk and don’t last, etc. Samsung runs on cool marketing and trying to sound cutting edge, the finish is starting to wear off.
Genelec8341
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That's Apple's apples to Samsung's oranges. These fabs don't measure their process on an equal basis.
Ursadorable
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I stopped recommending Samsung products to friends a couple years ago. Now I only recommend it to people I don't like.
This is good for Apple, Qualcomm and Samsung users. So, why all the complaining? Next year will be interesting though, I wonder if Samsung top leaders order their RAM factories to actually sell below market price (but still above production cost) to Samsung mobile, many manufacturers (especially cheaper Androids) will suffer. Today I can get a cheap android with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage - not next year.
Except that it is not really "2 nanometers." That is just marketing. Calling it 20 Angstroms would falsely imply even more precision and be even more misleading.
Sure chips keep improving, but the size thing is just silly.
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We did that decades ago with the Mac Duos. They were pretty slick: mobile notebooks that plugged into a dock like a video tape and synched to VRAM, keyboard, mouse, display and mass storage when docked. And when plugged in they [easily back then, no security] connected to an AppleTalk network of Macs via phone lines and Farallon PhoneNET connectors.
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Heise Online Germany did report it‘s just 2 NM on paper.
In their quarterly report from November 2025 Samsung did wrote that their 2 NM CPU are only 5 percent faster and only 8 percent more energy efficient as their 3 NM CPUs.
Already in late 2024 it was reported that Samsung did only rename its 3 NM production process to SF2 (2 nm).
So it is still 3 NM but a better iteration.
In their quarterly report from November 2025 Samsung did wrote that their 2 NM CPU are only 5 percent faster and only 8 percent more energy efficient as their 3 NM CPUs.
Already in late 2024 it was reported that Samsung did only rename its 3 NM production process to SF2 (2 nm).
So it is still 3 NM but a better iteration.
Old? It wasn’t that long ago they got delisted from Geekbench for cheating.
Or are you referring to the first time they got caught? Which was, coincidentally, around the time Apple launched the A7 (first 64bit ARM processor) that put everyone on notice.
ThomasJL
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So, when Tim Cook releases the 2nm
CPU non-Pro iPhones in 2026 with the same extremely slow USB 2.0 connectivity that was on the very first iPhone released in 2007, what excuses will his defenders use this time?
For anyone unfamiliar with that issue, the first post in the link below explains it:
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CPU non-Pro iPhones in 2026 with the same extremely slow USB 2.0 connectivity that was on the very first iPhone released in 2007, what excuses will his defenders use this time?
For anyone unfamiliar with that issue, the first post in the link below explains it:
Will iPhone 14 be USB 2.0? Probably, since Cook is mediocre.
Apple computers have had USB 3.0 since mid-2012. That is 10 years ago. Despite that, Tim Cook, being the mediocre beancounter MBA suit that he is, has still not done anything to upgrade the connectivity on the latest iPhones. The latest iPhones use the same USB 2.0 connectivity that shipped with...
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Samsung has officially unveiled the Exynos 2600, the world's first 2 nanometer mobile system-on-a-chip (SoC), built on the company's Gate-All-Around (GAA) process. ...
The chip uses Arm's latest cores ...
I admit that I only follow Apple's SoC developments closely and I understand what's going on there but the above surprised me slightly, in particular the bit I bolded that implies to me that Samsung isn't using an architecture license for this SoC but rather, at least as far as the CPU cores themselves are concerned, is using an ARM stock design.
Is that correct or is it poor wording in the article and the Exynos 2600 is in fact a fully Samsung-designed implementation of the latest ARM ISA executed under an ARM architecture license?
As a huge company with some product lines with massive revenue streams involved (e.g. the Galaxy phones) I had always assumed that Samsung was working under an ARM architecture license but maybe I'm wrong.
In typical use case how many % of non-Pro iPhone users do data transfers via Lightning (2012-2022) or USB-C (2023-onward) ports?So, when Tim Cook releases the 2nm
CPU 2026 non-Pro iPhones with the shame extremely slow USB 2.0 connectivity that was on the very first iPhone released in 2007, what excuses will his defenders use this time?
For anyone unfamiliar with that issue, the first post in the link below explains it:
Will iPhone 14 be USB 2.0? Probably, since Cook is mediocre.
Apple computers have had USB 3.0 since mid-2012. That is 10 years ago. Despite that, Tim Cook, being the mediocre beancounter MBA suit that he is, has still not done anything to upgrade the connectivity on the latest iPhones. The latest iPhones use the same USB 2.0 connectivity that shipped with...
When Apple deploys tech they look at the targeted or typical use case then design from that point.
For fun I tried doing Quick Start via USB-C to USB-C cable but the app insisted I do so via WiFi instead.
So, when Tim Cook releases the 2nm
CPU 2026 non-Pro iPhones with the shame extremely slow USB 2.0 connectivity that was on the very first iPhone released in 2007, what excuses will his defenders use this time?
For anyone unfamiliar with that issue, the first post in the link below explains it:
Will iPhone 14 be USB 2.0? Probably, since Cook is mediocre.
Apple computers have had USB 3.0 since mid-2012. That is 10 years ago. Despite that, Tim Cook, being the mediocre beancounter MBA suit that he is, has still not done anything to upgrade the connectivity on the latest iPhones. The latest iPhones use the same USB 2.0 connectivity that shipped with...
That’s only on base models. Pros are much faster. As in they absolutely DESTROY Samsung in transfer speeds.
Funny since Samsung had USB-C long before Apple but never did anything about the poor transfer speeds all this time.
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They use ARM cores. This time it’s the C1 Ultra and C1 Pro. There are regular C1 cores but the Exynos only uses C1 Pro cores and underclocks 6 of them instead of just using C1 cores.
It WAS a big deal years ago when Android users claimed it was a dealbreaker not to have fast transfer speeds. Especially when downloading large videos files.
In typical fashion, now that the iPhone Pro is the fastest it suddenly isn’t so important anymore. 🤷♂️
The “downloading videos” argument is interesting since Apple added recording to external SSDs with the iPhone 15 Pro. So you can now record high bit-rate ProRes video straight to an SSD and then edit that footage on your computer. This eliminates the need to ever download video from your iPhone.