Samsung Appeals to U.S. Supreme Court in Last Effort to Avoid $548 Million Apple Payment

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Samsung today asked the United States Supreme Court to hear its latest appeal in its ongoing patent battle with Apple, reports Re/code. In August, following a rejection from the U.S. Federal Circuit Court of Appeals, Samsung said it would take its case to the Supreme Court by November, and it has now followed through with those plans.

    In its appeal, which also includes a wider criticism on patent law, Samsung says the jury was not provided with enough information to understand the patents, a problem it says afflicts many design patent cases.

    Samsung has already agreed to pay a $548 million settlement to Apple, with the full sum expected to be paid by today, but should the Supreme Court rule in Samsung's favor, there is a clause that would require Apple to pay back the money.

    Apple and Samsung have been battling over patent infringement issues since 2012, when a jury ruled Samsung willfully violated multiple Apple patents, resulting in $1 billion in damages. Since then, Samsung has been fighting the ruling. Over the course of several appeals and a partial retrial, Samsung has gotten the damages reduced to the $548 million total.

    Samsung's appeal to the Supreme Court is a last ditch effort. Should the Supreme Court refuse to hear its appeal or rule in Apple's favor, Samsung will not be able to recoup the $548 million it is paying to Apple. Samsung could have some difficulty convincing the Supreme Court to look at its case, as the court is notoriously selective about the cases it agrees to hear.

    Article Link: Samsung Appeals to U.S. Supreme Court in Last Effort to Avoid $548 Million Apple Payment
  2. penajmz macrumors 68040


    Sep 11, 2008
    New York City
    I thought they agreed to this recently...?
  3. musika macrumors 65816


    Sep 2, 2010
    New York
  4. antman2x2 macrumors 6502a

    Mar 1, 2011
    New YAWK
  5. nepalisherpa macrumors 68020


    Aug 15, 2011
    Their next phone is rumored to have Force Touch! Samsung, you crack me up!
  6. dearfriendx macrumors 6502


    Jun 3, 2011
    San Diego, CA
    Just pony up the cash big S, we need more money dumped into Maps and Car. :p
  7. Four oF NINE macrumors 68000

    Four oF NINE

    Sep 28, 2011
    Hell's Kitchen
  8. soupcan macrumors 6502a


    Nov 21, 2014
    You can try Samsung. You know you will fail.

  9. Norbs12 Suspended


    Apr 24, 2015
    Mountain View, CA
    Not a lawyer so I'm not sure if it's possible but would be very hilarious if the Supreme Court ended up increasing how much Samsung had to pay.
  10. 2457282, Dec 14, 2015
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    2457282 Suspended

    Dec 6, 2012
    The truth is that the patent law is a mess and needs fixing. The truth is that this is not the case the supreme court will use to fix things.

    Write the check and move on. I hear a fat lady warming up.
  11. longofest Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    At what point are they just paying more in lawyer costs than to just pay the reduced sum? When it was in the billions it was something to holler about, but now I feel like they are paying just about that much in lawyer fees.
  12. tito2020 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 16, 2011
    Im sure they will settle something its the press that they want for more advertisement on both parties.
  13. AFPoster macrumors 68000

    Jul 14, 2008
    Charlotte, NC
    My two year old looks at Samsung devices and says "iPhone", we know Samsung isn't original or intuitive. Total thiefs!
  14. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    In other news - a company that lost a lawsuit is doing what any other company that lost a lawsuit is doing and fighting it until there's no other option. Not surprise here.
  15. 0007776 Suspended


    Jul 11, 2006
    Yep ever since apple copied Samsung's screen sizes. Every company steals from each other so I don't see Samsung being able to prove that they didn't and getting off.

    Our patent system needs some major reforms, but this isn't a case that seems likely going to make the Supreme Court to make any changes to it.
  16. AppStoreNerd macrumors member

    Apr 9, 2015
    oh wait so now force touch is patented by Apple?? oh you crack me up
  17. HiRez macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2004
    Western US
    It's a good thing the US Supreme court doesn't have anything more important to consider.

    They might want to ask them to pre-emtively rule on the upcoming lawsuit for Samsung's force touch while they're at it.
  18. ArtOfWarfare macrumors G3


    Nov 26, 2007
    Apple has had cases go to the Supreme Court before - has Samsung?
  19. dasmb macrumors 6502

    Jul 12, 2007
    Korean Company Appeals to U.S. Supreme Court to Assert its Right to Violate Patents of U.S. Companies.
  20. Bilbo63 macrumors 6502

    Apr 27, 2010
    Screen sizes? Are you flipping serious? Since the birth of displays, there has been a multitude of screen sizes. Samsung didn't invent different screen sizes. Screen size is not an invention or a technological breakthrough. It's exactly what it says a SIZE. If the patent system was fixed properly Samsung would owe a whole hell of a lot more. Samsung didn't invent "Monkey See, Monkey do" but they damn well perfected it.
  21. nfl46 macrumors 604

    Oct 5, 2008
    Here you go:

    Have fun.
  22. zubikov macrumors member

    Sep 3, 2014
    Samsung is spitting in the face of intellectual property rights and ethics, the very same foundation that helped build all of this and enabled them to grow into a world power. They're doing this to mock and demoralize the US patent system; which no matter what anyone says is still the strongest in the world. It's a vile, disgusting and shameless firm, infested with rotten management practices and blatant disregard for anything but short term profits.
  23. 0007776 Suspended


    Jul 11, 2006
    It's as much copying as having a rectangular phone with a touch screen covering the entire front was samsung copying apple.
  24. sc4rf4c3, Dec 14, 2015
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    sc4rf4c3 macrumors regular

    Oct 10, 2012
  25. tshrimp, Dec 14, 2015
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    tshrimp macrumors 6502


    Mar 30, 2012
    I work for a company that files for patents all the time, and we are surprised at what Apple is able to patent when compared to other companies. You are correct, our patent system needs major reforms. I might not like Samsung, but I do sometimes feel Apple gets a bias in their favor when it comes to patents.

    I also found this.

    Not sure if this is old news, but it is a few months old.

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