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Samsung Brings Patent Lawsuit Against Apple to U.S.
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You spend a lot of time here trashing Apple. Care to share why you stick around? Seems like a waste of time for you.
Apple has something like 200+ patents for the iPhone. This could get bloody when Apple responds with additional counter suits. I would pity those called for jury duty to make sense of the technical minutia. The breadth of the patent portfolios will be too detailed to battle in court. They are presented primarily as a way of saying "back off!" Ultimately, cross licensing agreements are forged.
LOL! Obviously Win, you watch too many movies or watch too much TV. Sorry to tell you but business is about making money and winning. And in most companies, as it is with Apple, I truly believe it's about making a difference too.
I did meet SJ once, and yes, he comes off as arrogant and can be a real tough guy to work for, but, the impression I got from listening to him was that he truly just loves creating cool things and wants to make a difference. And guess what... he has. We'd be in the PC dark ages if it wasn't for Apple. Consumer products would be a technology mess if Apple didn't show others that design and quality matter. Smart phones were a mess until the iPhone came out and showed everyone else how to do it.
So... I know in your delusional skewed view, you think I'm nuts. But business is not about Power... at least not in the companies I've worked for.
As for the lawsuits... it's just business and they'll get over it.
Its funny how Apple is suing for specific design and UI infringements, but Samsung seems to be countersuing for generic items that could possibly not be invented by them.
They are countering with software implementations to hardware, but they don't own the OS so how is Apple use of internal API's, coding, etc. impeding on Samsung's patents?
Sounds like Samsung is grabbing at straws hoping to get a short one!
I like both companies personally. My electronics are split between Apple and Samsung and all of my appliances are Samsung. Sammy is definitely knocking of Apple though. I thought so ever since I saw their portable computer line that looks just like MacBook Pros.
They are countering with software implementations to hardware, but they don't own the OS so how is Apple use of internal API's, coding, etc. impeding on Samsung's patents?
Sounds like Samsung is grabbing at straws hoping to get a short one!
I like both companies personally. My electronics are split between Apple and Samsung and all of my appliances are Samsung. Sammy is definitely knocking of Apple though. I thought so ever since I saw their portable computer line that looks just like MacBook Pros.
Most companies infringe on each others patents, but dont tend to act when a company infringes on theirs, because they know they're infringing on theirs too, or someone else's.
This surely has been covered by other manufacturers years before Samsung ever started making devices? What about the Newton? Seems a bit of a weak claim and surprising that they would have been granted a patent.
I agree with most comments, the claims by Samsung seem a stretch. I live in Korea and the Koreans are very loyal to local suppliers and Samsung is not happy with how successful the iPhone is in Korea. Even the local prefer the iPhone over the Samsung phones in Korea. After living here a few years I will never buy Korean products again. They are great at copying, and keeping it all within the country even if it increases cost. I hope Apple succeed in finding other suppliers but I think so many companies have helped Samsung get to big and dominant so it will be hard to find memory and cpu suppliers other than Samsung.
I have used Samsung phones in Korea, they are not great - My Nokia was way better than every Samsung phone I ever had. Samsung phones JUST work, they do not perform. My new iPhone looks better, performs (speed and application wise) better than the Samsung phones I have owned but it drops more calls. Here's an example of how much Koreans refuse to accept Apple, You cannot use a Mac in Korea and do internet shopping or banking. Every website requires a special active X control that only works in IE.
Even in Korea the locals know Samsung copied Apple, when you go to electronics markets the sales people try sell Samsung products saying its "just like Apple iPad/iPhone/iPod and its Korean made so its better"
I really hope Samsung get burnt on this one.
I have used Samsung phones in Korea, they are not great - My Nokia was way better than every Samsung phone I ever had. Samsung phones JUST work, they do not perform. My new iPhone looks better, performs (speed and application wise) better than the Samsung phones I have owned but it drops more calls. Here's an example of how much Koreans refuse to accept Apple, You cannot use a Mac in Korea and do internet shopping or banking. Every website requires a special active X control that only works in IE.
Even in Korea the locals know Samsung copied Apple, when you go to electronics markets the sales people try sell Samsung products saying its "just like Apple iPad/iPhone/iPod and its Korean made so its better"
I really hope Samsung get burnt on this one.
To bad it takes years to get to the bottom of this things...
Lawyers get rich and things get pushed further and further away...
Lawyers get rich and things get pushed further and further away...
Every time there's a patent or copyright article and people go off the deep end calling these companies crazy/evil, etc, I wish the article would indicate the fact that they are actually required to do so or risk losing their patent/trademarks. Doesn't even matter if they want to or not.
You may think so, but it's not what you think it is. I travel globally and Samsung is very well thought of in the many countries I do business with.
In addition they are not easily replaced as a component supplier. Apple benefits from their quality, high volume capacity, and very good pricing.
I'm not married to either, but I am intimately knowledgeable of their respective operations. They have a mutually beneficial relationship. It would hurt Apple to lose them.
Apples not stupid, just posturing for mind share. Its an American cultural thing. Samsung understands that, thus they are slashing back. Apples working hard to spin this so they look like the victim.
It's what Apple the finger pointer does "you're holding it wrong". Another version "they all do that"
No big deal they've got to blame someone, anyone.
All this patent infringement is a total joke.
I dont blame Apple suing Samsung and I dont blame Samsung suing Apple.
You know who should be blamed?
The US patent office. They are becoming more retarded every year. A girl got a patent on a specific way to "swing the swing." US patents are just like worthless papers that pave the way to sue the crap out of each other.
In the end, AAPL wont win and neither will SM. only the lawyers.
I dont blame Apple suing Samsung and I dont blame Samsung suing Apple.
You know who should be blamed?
The US patent office. They are becoming more retarded every year. A girl got a patent on a specific way to "swing the swing." US patents are just like worthless papers that pave the way to sue the crap out of each other.
In the end, AAPL wont win and neither will SM. only the lawyers.
The whole reason Apple is suing Samsung is because how much of a success the Galaxy S was in Europe. Now I don't blame Apple, but let's be honest here, they filed this lawsuit waayy too late. I don't know if any of you have read the Galaxy S 2 review on Engadget, but their reviewer, one notoriously known for hating on Android, gave it a 9/10, and said it was the best smartphone on the market.
...Did you hear me? iEngadget says this is a better phone...what world am I living in? I know the iPhone 4 is a ten month old phone, but considering its going to be in the market without a successor for another 4 months, and Europe is adopting Android like wildfire, Apple has to do something about it, fast.
Their lawsuit isn't stopping the release of the GS2, and their attempt to milk iPhone 4 sales by releasing a Verizon model (numbers are going down) and a white version (why would someone buy this over the black version?) probably won't work for long. If it hadn't been for the iPad 2, I don't even know where Apple would be right now.
...Did you hear me? iEngadget says this is a better phone...what world am I living in? I know the iPhone 4 is a ten month old phone, but considering its going to be in the market without a successor for another 4 months, and Europe is adopting Android like wildfire, Apple has to do something about it, fast.
Their lawsuit isn't stopping the release of the GS2, and their attempt to milk iPhone 4 sales by releasing a Verizon model (numbers are going down) and a white version (why would someone buy this over the black version?) probably won't work for long. If it hadn't been for the iPad 2, I don't even know where Apple would be right now.
I think some decent smart minds need to sit together, and work out this whole patent problem thing... It's getting ridiculous. They should just open it up to everybody. F$&# it, may the best company win then.
Not really.. If you watched Steve Jobs' interviews, you should have gotten a different conclusion... Steve quoted Picasso as saying: "Good artists borrow, great artists steal..."
My conclusion is that Apple stole a lot of ideas... And I mean A LOT... But you know what, they took those ideas and made them more user-friendly, higher quality, pretty much all the pros that go along with any Apple product...
That's why I said in an earlier post that patents like that are ridiculous... It should be open for everyone and may the best company win...
That's also why we always learn about Thomas Edison and not Nikola Tesla.
Not really.. If you watched Steve Jobs' interviews, you should have gotten a different conclusion... Steve quoted Picasso as saying: "Good artists borrow, great artists steal..."
My conclusion is that Apple stole a lot of ideas... And I mean A LOT... But you know what, they took those ideas and made them more user-friendly, higher quality, pretty much all the pros that go along with any Apple product...
That's why I said in an earlier post that patents like that are ridiculous... It should be open for everyone and may the best company win...
That's also why we always learn about Thomas Edison and not Nikola Tesla.
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The Samsung Galaxy S II is a very impressive smartphone.
It also includes Swype, the best touch screen input method ever. I've been using swype for months. The speed, accuracy, and enjoyment of using it, is simply amazing.
I'm so disappointed that Apple rejected it. Swype would add even more fun to the iPhone. Not to mention its incredible ease of use and speed.
http://www.swypeinc.com/
It also includes Swype, the best touch screen input method ever. I've been using swype for months. The speed, accuracy, and enjoyment of using it, is simply amazing.
I'm so disappointed that Apple rejected it. Swype would add even more fun to the iPhone. Not to mention its incredible ease of use and speed.
http://www.swypeinc.com/
I agree! Why should the cases be decided based upon their legal merits when they can be decided upon based on the "best company" (according to who?)
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Samsung makes good cellphones. All the cellphones I've owned in my life have been Samsung ones
I own a Samsung Mythic, and I suffer lag input problems :\. $100 with contract at the time I bought it and my brother's Samsung Impression which is $75 with contract is faster than mine. A simple OTA update could have easily fixed this lag problem.
Undoubtedly though Samsung makes great TVs.
Among Samsung's patents that Apple allegedly infringed, there's this one:
Which Apple product uses a trace of stylus???
Which Apple product uses a trace of stylus???
This lawsuit is stupid. Both companies need each other. Apple needs Sammy, and Sammy needs Apple. And if Apple switches suppliers, do any of you realize how much it would cost? They do have a signed contract. And even if they do switch, how do any of you know that quality won't be affected??
Samsung is not a small player, and this lawsuit will not end well for both.
Samsung is not a small player, and this lawsuit will not end well for both.
