Don't know why you were modded down you're absolutely correct. This is the way the system works.
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Samsung Brings Patent Lawsuit Against Apple to U.S.
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Don't know why you were modded down you're absolutely correct. This is the way the system works.
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Uh oh Samsung. Now you've done it.. By suing Apple in the US you've gone and released the Apple legal war machine. This surely will not turn out well for you.
Uh oh Samsung. Now you've done it.. By suing Apple in the US you've gone and released the Apple legal war machine. This surely will not turn out well for you.
Just FYI I bolded out the most specific part. You do realize that there are still phones not capable of setting the time remotely? I still use an old Nokia phone that has no automatic time syncing.
Either you really think it's a trivial implementation to acquire a time-signal over the cell network or you just haven't grasped the concept of the patent.
And btw: How can a company hold a patent for a swipe gesture to unlock the screen? How is that more sophisticated.
The patent application has this to say about acquiring a time-signal over an established connection to a CDMA network...
That's it. They make it sound quite trivial don't they? Almost as if that's not the point of this patent.
IF companies sued others for perceived infringement of patents, we wouldn't have anything new to buy.
Sony never sued asus for making clone laptops that were direct copies of sony vaio.
check wiki.
samsung electronics (not the samsung group just electronics) is 2x or 3x times bigger in revenue than apple.
samsung is #2 patents holdings in USA. apple barely broke into top 50 recently.
$$ and patents holdings tell me it won't be so easy for apple.
samsung does that already with sony and ibm. both are in top 10 in US patents holding. Apple? Barely broke into top 50 recently.
I bet samsung told apple (in private negotiations) to come back with more patents if they want cross-license deal with samsung. and apple prob got pissed for being put down like that...
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don't bother. as far as some members here are concerned Apple is an untouchable divine entity
Correction. Apple barely broke into top 50 in US patents holding recently.
As an AAPL shareholder, I wish Apple used the energy more on innovating and less on suing.
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I hate these ridiculous statements. Samsung is a huge conglomerate that builds everything from microchips to 100 story sky scrapers. They don't need Apple to survive.
Samsung built Tower 2:
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I highly doubt samsung is making stuff up to get back at apple. IF so, well US patents office needs makeover. giving patents for software and to stuff someone makes up.
you really should go look up how it works before you start insulting us.
I was not talking crap. That little tid pit I put in about the filing only if getting pissed off and sued came form our resident patent lawyer on these boards who explain why many times you only see law suits after they get sued. They go into the file if sued by so and so bring these up.
That is why many of these patents are filed away and never really sued unless antoher company starts pissing you off or acting childish like Apple. It gives you more leverage to use against them in their lawsuit against you.
I do find it funny. Fanboys cheered when Apple sued Samsung but Samsung responds and now called Samsung childish.
Fanboys call Kodak pantint trolls when they sued apple.
Fanboys cheer when Apple sued Nokia but booed about Nokia sueing apple.
Noticed a pattern there.
Meanwhile in the world of tablets, RIMM is having problems:
Earlier this week it was a breakout of sudden playbook death syndrome.
Now the company can't deliver its phones and the CEO is having a hard time with questions about security:
Poor RIMM. I think the end is near.
Earlier this week it was a breakout of sudden playbook death syndrome.
Now the company can't deliver its phones and the CEO is having a hard time with questions about security:
Poor RIMM. I think the end is near.
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Sounds like everything Apple just went through with Antenna-Gate and the White iPhone 4. It happens to everyone.
However, look at the profits and Apple makes around the same or more than the entire Samsung conglomerate with 1/5 the workforce.
How much does samsung conglomerate make and how much does apple make? Can't find the numbers
When a customer walks into your store with $2000 to purchase your goods, are you going to call the cops when he walks into your store naked?
No. Your just going to suck it up and let the man pay you the $2000 and let him leave.
You dont seem to know how much pull Samsung has in the components arena do you?
They are
#1 in RAM Memory
#2 in semiconductor LSI
#1 in flat panel display
#1 in rechargeable battery
#2 in mobile phones over all
#1 in NAND flash memory
$8 billion to a company with revenue generation in excess of $140 billion is chunp change. That is around 4% of total revenue.
Never sue your supplier when your supplier can turn around and gobble up other suppliers and increase the price for all OEM makers, but giving itself the cost effective goods, because it also itself is an OEM maker.
Unlike Apple, who is just a customer, Samsung is BOTH a customer AND a supplier at the same time. Either way, they win.
Quite recently, Samsung attempted to take over Sandisk, the NAND flash memory company. It wasnt successful due to some differences in price offers. That alone tells you that Samsung is willing to strangle hold the market even more than it already has. NAND flash market alone, Samsung has over 30 % of the market all to itself. For RAM memory, it close to 40%.
Apple is barking up the wrong tree.
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When it comes to Samsung, Apples out of its league.
Given the terrific success of the pads & phones, this attack on Samsung by Apple is quite out of place.
Any resemblance between a Galaxy and iPhone is to Apples advantage anyway. Yet that said, Jobs has always been highly paranoid.
Given the terrific success of the pads & phones, this attack on Samsung by Apple is quite out of place.
Any resemblance between a Galaxy and iPhone is to Apples advantage anyway. Yet that said, Jobs has always been highly paranoid.
And you are just proving how little you understand the market in that area.
You forget that those parts Samsung supplies there is a SHORTAGE of them on the open market. Apple can not afford to loose Samsung because no one else has the production to replace them. It would cost Apple a lot more money to replace them. Samsung on the other had because of the shortage sell for a greater amount to other companies.
Apple may be a first tear buying in that area but they still are a minor player in terms of over all buyers. Samsung is a major player in that market.
If you are going to use Wiki, at least get some uptodate figures.
Apple are putting in $25bn quarters, so I reckon we can predict a close on to $100bn turnover for the 2011/2012 year. Which isn't far off the 2009 figure for Samsung Electronics at $117bn turnover.
As for the 2-3 times - then you are comparing the whole of Samsung Group, which I'm sure you said that you weren't comparing. But even if we were comparing the whole group, it's $100bn vs $175bn. So not 2-3 times. Maybe 3 times if you are comparing 2009 - which again is slightly boring since Apple's financial muscle has increased hugely in the last 18-24 months.
At best, you were being disingenius when you said "2-3" times for the electronics group, (wiki shows $65bn vs $117bn), when 65 is clearly more than half of 117. As you have trouble with maths, 65*2 is 130. And, taking no chances, 117 is less than 130.
So quite where your "2-3" comes from I have no idea.
Maybe as a hater your maths are failing you? Who knows.
And you seem to only believe that there is only one company can provide Apple it's components?
There are loads of them.
And look at what Apple are doing with screens - they are sourcing parts from multiple companies to make the numbers. Which is exactly how Samsung will be taken apart if needs be.
However, that won't happen anytime soon as Samsung are in cast iron contracts to supply. Samsung defaults, and it will be in a world of financial hurt, far more than pesky patent rows. It will be up against a multi billion dollar default that will make BPs payout in the Gulf look like small change.