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Samsung Confirms Work on Smart Watch Project
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Sarcasm buddy. Sarcasm. Have you not been paying attention? People are suggesting Samsung would be copying Apple. Clearly they can't copy something Apple hasn't done nor can they copy something since they've already released earlier models of something similar.
"Learn before you talk" indeed.
Samsung has some history in the smart watch territory. They made the first watch phone back in 1999. But I still can't see the watch thing catching on, even if Apple does it.
most of us "apple bashers" as you like to call us Don't say this. They don't negate and ignore what Apple has done to the consumer market.
I don't necessarily use words like "perfect" and "perfection" because the old addage still applies. Nobody is perfect. There is always room for improvement, and just because Apple does something that is wildly successful doesn't mean it's automatically "perfect". Apple does a lot of things far from perfect. What Apple does do fantastically, and even better than most everyone else is put the technologies together in a meaningful way that makes people generally want to start using those technologies. Even if it's not apple they buy from.
As I've said before, yes, MP3 players existed before Apple's iPod for example. Many had better featuresets and worked better than the iPods themselves. But Apple made it COOL and easy for everyone. They made a design that even your parents wouldn't mind carrying around. Before that, in the realm of "nerds", mp3 players were used, but carrying around anything but a CD player, was "geeky".
Automatically throwing the label "perfection" on something because Apple did it is as fanboy as it gets. (likewise, attacking apple for everything is also equally fanboy against). it's called moderation and objective viewpoint. look at what the product does and is, and how it affects the markets as a hole. Apple has done wonderous things for the tech world, but they are not alone in that. They are not the only player and they aren't some 'god' company who magically invents everything from the void.
With wireless electricity and charging developing and advancements, it shouldn't be much an issue in the near future. Taking a watch off plugging it in every night would be a hassle. Just imagine something you have set up on your night stand to charge up your watch or other device wirelessly while you sleep or something you can plug into cars cigarette lighter or a USB port.
Wireless charging I think will be a huge factor in the coming years. Less open ports on your devices so they can be more weather proof and less cables/adapters going into the landfills every year.
Did anyone actually say that it will run a full version of iOS? Or that it could even do so?
I think a more doable goal would be "ease of integration" with existing Apple (and maybe even non-Apple) devices.
I agree. This would be something revolutionary. Apple should take note. Currently, besides simple inconvenience, I am always on edge about charging my iPad since it does not have MagSafe and could easily fly and hit the wall or floor if someone tripped on the cord. I could see a lot of flying watches and cracked displays if they used a lightning port to charge.
It's in the article.
Probably not doable but I think this would be a neat idea....
Somehow, Apple should create an ACTUAL watch (with real hands, gears and such) that is covered by a transparent screen. When you want to use the "smart" part", the screen comes on and covers the "watch" part. They'd have to do this in a thin profile - but that could be the best of both worlds....would be pretty neat IMO if they could really marry the two ideas instead of create a 2.5" iOS device (not that I wouldn't go for it with the right feature set).
NFC, biometrics, the sky is the limit for this device - complimentary to your iPhone...
Could be really sweet.
And this whole thing with Samsung - I think what gets lost in the "samsung copied apple" fanboy nonsense is the simple fact that given Apple started the smartphone revolution, each phone since then has ridden that wave (until now....Samsung is building its own following, for better or worse). I think people here (at least I do) think that the same thing could happen here. Apple creates a smartwatch that revolutionizes the industry (aka makes it popular) and others (Samsung), while not directly "copying" the watch itself ride that wave to success.....
Of course, Samsung could put out this product first - and if they can revolutionize the industry first, good for them. Really, its all about who can make a popular product that changes the way we interact with our phones and others.
My money's on Apple here....I think it happens this year (in lieu of a redesigned iPhone). And if the iWatch is a success (which, let's face it is very likely) you can bet Samsung will be out with one soon - whether they copied or not. Can't deny it seems quite reactionary.....what has Samsung innovated? What Samsung product has disrupted (or created) an entire industry? The Note is the closest I can think of and even it is little more than a niche product (with about 15-20 million total Notes 1 & 2 sold).
Somehow, Apple should create an ACTUAL watch (with real hands, gears and such) that is covered by a transparent screen. When you want to use the "smart" part", the screen comes on and covers the "watch" part. They'd have to do this in a thin profile - but that could be the best of both worlds....would be pretty neat IMO if they could really marry the two ideas instead of create a 2.5" iOS device (not that I wouldn't go for it with the right feature set).
NFC, biometrics, the sky is the limit for this device - complimentary to your iPhone...
Could be really sweet.
And this whole thing with Samsung - I think what gets lost in the "samsung copied apple" fanboy nonsense is the simple fact that given Apple started the smartphone revolution, each phone since then has ridden that wave (until now....Samsung is building its own following, for better or worse). I think people here (at least I do) think that the same thing could happen here. Apple creates a smartwatch that revolutionizes the industry (aka makes it popular) and others (Samsung), while not directly "copying" the watch itself ride that wave to success.....
Of course, Samsung could put out this product first - and if they can revolutionize the industry first, good for them. Really, its all about who can make a popular product that changes the way we interact with our phones and others.
My money's on Apple here....I think it happens this year (in lieu of a redesigned iPhone). And if the iWatch is a success (which, let's face it is very likely) you can bet Samsung will be out with one soon - whether they copied or not. Can't deny it seems quite reactionary.....what has Samsung innovated? What Samsung product has disrupted (or created) an entire industry? The Note is the closest I can think of and even it is little more than a niche product (with about 15-20 million total Notes 1 & 2 sold).
why is it "x copied y" or "y copied x"
it's entirely possible for two individuals to have similar ideas to accomplish the same goals in similar ways based on market direction and prior experience in market industries.
Both companies saw that there has been 'demand' stated publicly for the wearables technology (as proven by pebble), and have actively and aggressively started development of their own solutions.
And remember, neither of these companies are "first" in this field either. the idea of "smart watches" is as old as the 80's. see my post that was made in a joke about the calculator watch. Would you believe this watch could have timers, calender entries, calculator and store phone numbers? People have wanted such devices since then. To believe that Apple is the miraculous inventor of the only such device that will ever come to the world and they somehow, thought of the idea of a smart watch out of absolute nothingness is pure blind arrogance and ignorance.
people honestly need to drop this "copying" bull as a defense mechanism because now, it is only making fanboys look even stupider than ever before when they shout it. Especially for competing product ideas that don't even exist in the marketplace yet
it's entirely possible for two individuals to have similar ideas to accomplish the same goals in similar ways based on market direction and prior experience in market industries.
Both companies saw that there has been 'demand' stated publicly for the wearables technology (as proven by pebble), and have actively and aggressively started development of their own solutions.
And remember, neither of these companies are "first" in this field either. the idea of "smart watches" is as old as the 80's. see my post that was made in a joke about the calculator watch. Would you believe this watch could have timers, calender entries, calculator and store phone numbers? People have wanted such devices since then. To believe that Apple is the miraculous inventor of the only such device that will ever come to the world and they somehow, thought of the idea of a smart watch out of absolute nothingness is pure blind arrogance and ignorance.
people honestly need to drop this "copying" bull as a defense mechanism because now, it is only making fanboys look even stupider than ever before when they shout it. Especially for competing product ideas that don't even exist in the marketplace yet
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I am sure he is judging your attitude on the situation and assuming you don't give a crap about standing on the shoulders of hard workers and claiming credit for it while mocking the company you stood on.
As long as customers can get a device they want - I don't care who comes first or whatever. Clearly I'm not advocating for patent violations. But OH I can't wait for those threads about which WATCH is better.
I can chuckle (now) at "Yeah - but Samsung's watch runs on Android - so can it even keep time with how buggy and laggy it is? And who wants to get viruses on their watch?!" lol
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Funny - because my whole point earlier in this thread was to point out how some people like to ignore how Apple has stood on the shoulders of other companies that came before them.
Or more precisely - ignore history and how important other people and company's contributions have been to the industry. As if in 2007, Apple whipped up their iPhone out of thin air without any influence, technology, etc that was created before.
Please - if you're going to "witch hunt" me - at least be intelligent about it.
Ok let me put it into perspective for you.
Apple, looks at tech history and improves upon it. Do I really need to whip out the before and after smartphone when Apple first released their iPhone?)
Samsung, looks at tech history and clones the sh out of it. (Do I really need to whip out the before and after picture of Apple's iPhone vs the first samsung smart phone?)
case closed
I actually made my post in jest, but it's even more funny if it's true. What you're saying does sound familiar, but now that I think about it, it's a standard practice in technology. Even if you have the best products, it's always good to take apart your competitors products and find out how they work ("reverse engineer"). It might give you some insight into how you can refine your own designs, cut costs, or launch ads against them if you discover a weakness of their product.
So you can read in between the lines of what Phil was saying, but you cannot do the same for Lee?
I find it highly suspicious that Samsung comes up with a statement like this, where they only mention a smartwatch after Apple rumors but not other products.
I am, like everybody else, is reading in between the lines here.
I don't need your perspective. I'm well aware of any factual or perceived factual information.
Do you have a point other than to regurgitate something we both already know? How does this relate anything I wrote or implied? How does this relate to you insisting I should "leave" the forum because you don't agree with my posts. Here's a suggestion. Put me and others you don't like to read on ignore if it bothers you so much.
Where did I say I can't read the lines. Clearly Lee was being pro-active and talking about Apple. But that doesn't mean Samsung isn't working on a watch, does it?
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He is trying to derail this conversation with crap. Don't feed him...
Are you kidding me? It's already been confirmed that there has been a team of a 100 people with confirmed high end names who work at Apple.
It's happening, friend.
Actually the Prada came out in 2007, but was announced in 2006.
Not that it matters much. I've seen a thousand and 1 X copied posts around here during my short tenure. You can offer up all the proof in the world, and all you'll get is a reply like "only an idiot would think that looks/acts/functions like an iPhone", or something similar.
For some people, it's comforting for them to believe Apple invented the world, and literally every single company outside of their circle exists solely to copy the things they've done.