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It's a true lay fantastic device and if it ran IOS then it would be perfect. Phone of the year for many people no doubt about it.

The extra ram on the note 8 i think has helped a lot when you compare it to the current iphone
 
The answer is simple. The better option is to have the best and most secure away of unlocking your phone. That be fingerprint or face recognition, iris scanner or whatever. I have absolutely no doubt the 3D face recognition will be a game changer and better then fingerprint reader. But of course, you take away something people are used to it, they panic. Like with the headphone jack which I am deeply missing it........................not.

What about all those people who for religious grounds choose to wear apparel that covers the majority of their face?


The most secure way of protecting a device is to store a number/password that only resides in the grey matter inside your skull.

Not the most convenient, but the most secure.
 
They aren’t just deleting the jokes, but any comments associated with the prior phone’s ordeal. Again, motivation...
They've been all done to death, they're not relevant for the Note 8 and they don't add anything to the debate. It's just at best unfunny, tedious stuff, at worst trolling.

Good enough reasons to delete them.

I don't particularly like the Note 8 and I wouldn't buy one, but for actual reasons (Bixby, app duplication, location of fingerprint scanner, unnecessary narrow angle lens).
 
They've been all done to death, they're not relevant for the Note 8 and they don't add anything to the debate. It's just at best unfunny, tedious stuff, at worst trolling.

Good enough reasons to delete them.

As I stated before, and I'll state again, not all were jokes, some simply comments about the former phone. Again, motivation...
 
I'm going to continue using my Note 5 another year. It's still an amazing phone. I've been using it over my S8+ all summer long.
 
Fine phone, just not so impressed. Basically the same as the S8 plus with Apple's portrait effect camera. Still the same Android issues and bad security. I saw yesterday that the face unlock can be bypassed with a picture. Shouldn't be hard at all for Apple to top.
 
Yeah, I agree, you need to move on.
I didn't care about it to begin with (didn't have or planned to buy a Note 7), the advice was for you.
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Fine phone, just not so impressed. Basically the same as the S8 plus with Apple's portrait effect camera.
It's not Apple's at all since it appeared on smartphones before Apple did it. And it's different, too, since you can change the aperture (thus controlling the amount of bokeh) and re-focus the shot after you took it. It's really like Huawei's.

Still the same Android issues and bad security.
These are just imaginary issues.

The new iPhone won't top it. It will be the same mediocre, overpriced fashion tech, full of restrictions and compromises, in a slightly modernized package.
 
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You must be kidding, If you have used IOS you will definitely hate android whatever is on the outside
Very ignorant statement. I use Android phone and iPad, and I prefer Android to iOS (I migrated from iPhone, but still don't see decent alternative to iPad). And by the way, I use Windows on all my macs :)
Apple approach to limit users as much as possible is not for me and jailbreak is pretty much dead, so there is no way to fix it.
 
$930 Samsung? Nobody bats an eye. $999 iPhone? EVERYBODY PANIC

Yea I was thinking the exact same thing. Hardly a major difference in price for obviously the better phone.
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I didn't care about it to begin with (didn't have or planned to buy a Note 7), the advice was for you.
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It's not Apple's at all since it appeared on smartphones before Apple did it. And it's different, too, since you can change the aperture (thus controlling the amount of bokeh) and re-focus the shot after you took it. It's really like Huawei's.


These are just imaginary issues.

The new iPhone won't top it. It will be the same mediocre, overpriced fashion tech, full of restrictions and compromises, in a slightly modernized package.

I don't recall seeing the portrait effect on any phone prior to the 7 plus. If they had it, it was in a small market or not marketed well enough. No, there are still the same issues. There are new security issues with malware and such every day with Android, along with people bypassing their face scanning security with a picture. It's an easy choice for anyone who values security. Apple has this phone beat in every way. The iPhone 7 still outperforms the recent Samsung phones.
 
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I didn't care about it to begin with (didn't have or planned to buy a Note 7), the advice was for you.
That's great. I'm glad you never planned to buy a phone that was rushed to market by a company with poor QA and ended up having an explosive battery. I We are all better off knowing your historical phone choices.

And I never asked for your advice, but maybe you should take your own and, as you say, move on.
 
I'm Not sure why people make posts like this. Either you have no experience with android or you're just jumping on the bandwagon effect to make an comment about their operating software being "Terrible". That's entirely false. I have personally tested it and it's not terrible at all, it's completely different from iOS, but it's unique in its own right. And Nor am I defending android, because I am an iPhone user. Just correcting what you stated is false.
The problem here is that the phone experience is mostly a personal thing.
Like a bowel movement. Personally android is like a bad bowel movement.
 
They haven choice but to praise it. There are few decent alternatives in the Android space, premium wise. I find it funny though that they are always in love with Samsung products - even the ones that explode and burn things down. But then give them a pass quickly. The bigger issue is they never do anything truly amazing, or really execute on things at the highest level. They seem very happy to be 'Vice President' so to speak, with true design and implementation because they know they sell mostly free phones that people get for singing up or at least very inexpensive ones.

Let it go. Enough with the stupid explosion comments.
 
"That brings us to what stinks about the Note 8. Some of the biometrics, including the ability to unlock your phone by scanning your face or irises, are so poorly executed that they feel like marketing gimmicks as opposed to actual security features. "

The only reason I would buy a Samsung was if South Korea was bombed by North Korea and I wanted to show my support.

I doubt Samsung would donate any of their profits to help rebuild South Korea.
 
I don't recall seeing the portrait effect on any phone prior to the 7 plus. If they had it, it was in a small market or not marketed well enough.
The hint was in my post. Huawei had the wide aperture effect (in a much more flexible form, as I explained) long before before the 7 Plus. It was introduced with the P9, which was launched in spring 2016. It was well marketed and well sold (over 10 million phones in 2016 alone), just not in the US. Just because it wasn't sold there it doesn't mean Apple had the portrait effect first.

No, there are still the same issues. There are new security issues with malware and such every day with Android
That's like saying the new BMW 5 series is a bad car because people crash cars. It's a non-sequitur.

If you're aware of any actual security issues with the Note 8 or S8, please inform us, otherwise you're just blowing air.

along with people bypassing their face scanning security with a picture
There are plenty of unlock options offered by Samsung. Face unlock is just one of them, and it works just fine if you lose your phone or it is stolen (they won't have a picture of your face). But if that's the concern, just use the fingerprint reader, or the iris scanner, or the unlock pattern, or an unlock password. It's ridiculous to suggest that if one method which the iPhone doesn't even have, is less secure, while the others are just as secure as Apple's, this somehow makes the Note 8 less secure.

It's an easy choice for anyone who values security. Apple has this phone beat in every way.
That's just hot air.

The iPhone 7 still outperforms the recent Samsung phones
No it doesn't. The recent Samsung phones have much better screens, fast charging, microSD slots, better cameras etc. The next iPhone won't beat them either, it will be the same mediocre, overpriced fashion tech product, full of restrictions and limitations, primarily bought to boost self-esteem.

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That's great. I'm glad you never planned to buy a phone that was rushed to market by a company with poor QA and ended up having an explosive battery. I We are all better off knowing your historical phone choices.

And I never asked for your advice, but maybe you should take your own and, as you say, move on.
Well you were the one whining about not being able to comment ad nauseum, on the Note 8 thread, about the Note 7 battery issues. The issue has been discussed to death and it's not relevant here.
 
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You're exaggerating with the software. It may not be comparable to iOS, but it's not "Bad". Android has come along way in terms Of fluidity and less lag. Being that I am in iOS user, I was an android user for years. And android is nowhere near what it used to be five years ago. It's much improved since then.

Exactly, the only difference is preference and if you've invested into the ecosystem. They all have flaws that people are willing to overlook because they love the phone/brand.
 
Well you were the one whining about not being able to comment ad nauseum, on the Note 8 thread, about the Note 7 battery issues. The issue has been discussed to death and it's not relevant here.

Wrong again, skippy! I never said I wanted to make a comment about the note 7, just pointed out how those comments were getting deleted. But I do find amusement in how sensitive you are regarding the subject of that hazardous predecessor of the phone being discussed. Your whining is rather hilarious.
 
I can't wait until next week to see what Apple is bringing to the table to compete with this device.

I have not seen anything in iOS yet that comes close to the customization and control you can have on an Android device, let alone this beauty.

A new case is not enough reason for me to go Apple, but the integration with my Macs surely is.

Sadly, I'd have to give up A LOT to switch back to iPhone, and all that "Android muscle memory" may prove frustrating in such a limited device.

I need to think hard about which device I want to be stuck with for 2 years, or rather, which features can I live without...
 
What the heck kind of decision-making process leads to these broken face and iris scanning features actually getting shipped? Effective biometric authentication is so key to the experience of using a modern phone that it's hard for me to look past this, especially when combined with the fingerprint sensor moving to a difficult to use location.

There's no shame in failing to effectively implement a face recognition system. It's a difficult problem. But for heaven's sake, don't ship your failed effort. If Apple's rumored face recognition system fails this badly then I will lose almost all faith in the company.
 
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Nearly two weeks after being unveiled at an event in New York City, and with a week and a half still to go before it launches to customers on September 15, Samsung's Galaxy Note 8 smartphone has received its first batch of reviews posted online today. Many publications marked the Note 8's large 6.3-inch "Infinity Display" as a step forward for Samsung, compared the smartphone's "Live Focus" bokeh effect mode to Portrait Mode on the iPhone 7 Plus, and agreed that the lack of an explosive battery made the Note 8 a solid contender in the smartphone market.

Most reviews touched on comparing the Note 8's new dual rear camera system to that of the iPhone 7 Plus, and Engadget found that each smartphone's bokeh effect largely provides the same finished products, although Samsung's device has the edge in features. Unlike the iPhone 7 Plus, the Note 8 lets you change the blurring effect both before and after the picture has been taken, so that if the effect is too enhanced, it's easy to dial back a UI toggle and find a happy-medium spot where the Live Effect looks better.

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On the other hand, in the camera's UI and in the rest of the Note 8's operating system, Engadget noted that anyone who purchases a Note 8 will have to struggle with "a little software strangeness" in the Android smartphone.
PC World called the Note 8 "the best phone Samsung has ever made, bar none," praising the smartphone's display, fast wireless charging, and 6GB of RAM. The site said that the new Samsung smartphone is "at least as fast as any Android phone" that it has used, as well as the iPhone 7 Plus.


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Article Link: Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Reviews: 'Beautiful' Display and Solid Dual Rear Cameras at Premium Price
 
$930 for a 6.3" AMOLED screen, 6GB RAM, and an included S stylus is "Premium" while a rumored $999 for a 5.8" iPhone with roughly the same specs as the Galaxy S8 is "Expected"?

I would be first on the bandwagon if Apple released a 6.3" iPhone with an included Apple Pencil and support for removable storage for $1,000. A knock-off of a $725 phone though? Going to pass this time around. Apple's been drinking too much of their own Kool-Aid.
 
One of the most differentiating feature that the Note 8 has is MicroSD support. Now you can add 400GB on top of the 64GB base. In today's picture taking craze, this is a big, big benefit. Cloud use is OK if you have wifi but with 4G limits, the MicroSD is great. The video did not mention the MicroSD
 
Very ignorant statement. I use Android phone and iPad, and I prefer Android to iOS (I migrated from iPhone, but still don't see decent alternative to iPad). And by the way, I use Windows on all my macs :)
Apple approach to limit users as much as possible is not for me and jailbreak is pretty much dead, so there is no way to fix it.
My statement was meant for normal users
 
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