Samsung galaxy note

[aztooh]

After you flaming my post I had a quick check to see what you say to others. Out of every post you have done all of them are negative and agressive. I think you need to see a doctor if you get this steamed up over technology that you didn't even invent.

you think the post you quoted is "steamed up"? Interesting angle.

 

[blairh]

As for the 3 button setup. With ICS you'll see it makes perfect sense. 1 home button is easy to understand but it doesn't lend itself to giving you more control. The 3 virtual buttons plus menu means you can do a lot more. After a while you wouldn't want to go back to 1 button. And it's really that big screen that enabled the menus as well for apps which is very useful. Drop down menus are so much more human friendly than a separate screen.

It's four buttons on the Note, not three. Sorry but I'm not buying your reasoning either. Capacitive buttons for starters suck compared to anything physical. Furthermore I seriously don't see how I need more buttons for more 'control'. One button suits me just fine and I've had no issues with going that route since 2008.

If you dig your Note, that's cool, but I would never ditch my iPhone for the Note.

 

[rgarjr]

I concur, more buttons makes it a bit more cumbersome to use.

 

[Vegastouch]

It's four buttons on the Note, not three. Sorry but I'm not buying your reasoning either. Capacitive buttons for starters suck compared to anything physical. Furthermore I seriously don't see how I need more buttons for more 'control'. One button suits me just fine and I've had no issues with going that route since 2008.

If you dig your Note, that's cool, but I would never ditch my iPhone for the Note.

How is it different than the iPhone? So you have 1 home button, and the Note has a home button.....But you have the same other buttons as well, they are just at the top of whatever you have open as opposed to all being on the bottom like on the Note of Galaxy S phones.

I really dont see a huge difference. At least the Notes and those mentioned are all in the same place and not at the top of the page. Also, those other buttons do more.
If you hold down the search button, it will bring up multiple choices. It gives a voice search app, text message app and in my case, soundhound. In ICS if you hold down the home buton, it will bring up all the lastest windows you have used so you can go back to them faster instead of searching for th app or have to go to another page.

I really dont see the big deal. I find them quite functional being down there and it isnt a physical button that can stick or need to be replaced. Ive never ever had an issue with my capacitive buttons and my Vibrant is 20 months old.

 

[jesslla]

I intensely dislike the capacitive buttons on my itty-bitty Aria. I'm always brushing up against the home button by mistake, which pulls me out of whatever I'm doing.

I can't wait until I get my iPhone with it's one physical home button.

 

[UltraZ33]

I bought the Note using my upgrade. After having every generation of iPhone I thought it was time for a change. I really liked the Note for having a big screen and the OLED screen was really nice. I also liked the fact that I could click and drag my music,pictures and movies with out going through a program like iTunes. But not even a full 24hours, I went back and exchanged it for a 4S. I miss the fact that my Mac, iPad 2 and my phone were all connected together and made it so much easier to work. I had to download other programs to make the Note work with my Mac (which I know I had to do) I regretted leaving the iPhone.

 

[cynics]

I don't mind the one button of an iPhone now that I'm used too it I just wish it wasn't physical. I use it constantly and know its going to be the first thing to break.

 

[blairh]

How is it different than the iPhone? So you have 1 home button, and the Note has a home button.....But you have the same other buttons as well, they are just at the top of whatever you have open as opposed to all being on the bottom like on the Note of Galaxy S phones.

I really dont see a huge difference. At least the Notes and those mentioned are all in the same place and not at the top of the page. Also, those other buttons do more.
If you hold down the search button, it will bring up multiple choices. It gives a voice search app, text message app and in my case, soundhound. In ICS if you hold down the home buton, it will bring up all the lastest windows you have used so you can go back to them faster instead of searching for th app or have to go to another page.

I really dont see the big deal. I find them quite functional being down there and it isnt a physical button that can stick or need to be replaced. Ive never ever had an issue with my capacitive buttons and my Vibrant is 20 months old.

It just comes down to finding one physical button to be perfectly efficient for my needs. I've never wanted or needed extra buttons to get anything done on my iPhone. It's cool if those four capacitive buttons don't bother you, but you aren't going to convince me that it's superior in any way. I still think one physical button is easier and better. Also I almost never use the home button for multitasking. So this argument that the home button could break doesn't apply to me. I also know that some people have issues with capacitive buttons being hit unintentionally whether it be by touch or other items in a pocket.

Back to your response, I find four capacitive buttons to be completely different than one physical button, and I'll take the one physical button every time.

 

[rjohnstone]

I concur, more buttons makes it a bit more cumbersome to use.

Exactly the opposite.
Why waste screen real estate with graphical buttons for common actions?

Want to pull up and app's settings menu, hit the Menu button.
Want to go back a screen or back to a previous app, hit the Back button or press and hold the home button to bring up the list of running apps.

The four buttons on the bottom become second nature very quickly.
It also reduces hand movement as you're not constantly going from the top of the screen to the bottom to navigate around.

Typical arrangement is Menu|Home|Back|Search.
Some vendors (HTC) like to reverse Home and Menu.

Any time I go back and mess with an iPhone, it takes me a bit to adjust to the one lone button at the bottom.

 

[ugahairydawgs]

I bought the Note using my upgrade. After having every generation of iPhone I thought it was time for a change. I really liked the Note for having a big screen and the OLED screen was really nice. I also liked the fact that I could click and drag my music,pictures and movies with out going through a program like iTunes. But not even a full 24hours, I went back and exchanged it for a 4S. I miss the fact that my Mac, iPad 2 and my phone were all connected together and made it so much easier to work. I had to download other programs to make the Note work with my Mac (which I know I had to do) I regretted leaving the iPhone.

I'm not advocating one device or the other, but c'mon....if you've used nothing but iPhones since 2007 you have to give new tech (new to you in this instance) a little more than 24 hours of a test drive to see if it is going to work out. It will take a lot longer than a day to pick up all of the nuts and bolts of a new OS.

 

[hakuna-matata]

Somebody plz explain the rationale behind this thread created and continually being discussed under the tag ''iPhone''...mods???😕😕

 

[cynics]

Exactly the opposite.
Why waste screen real estate with graphical buttons for common actions?

Want to pull up and app's settings menu, hit the Menu button.
Want to go back a screen or back to a previous app, hit the Back button or press and hold the home button to bring up the list of running apps.

The four buttons on the bottom become second nature very quickly.
It also reduces hand movement as you're not constantly going from the top of the screen to the bottom to navigate around.

Typical arrangement is Menu|Home|Back|Search.
Some vendors (HTC) like to reverse Home and Menu.

Any time I go back and mess with an iPhone, it takes me a bit to adjust to the one lone button at the bottom.

I find the 3 buttons to streamline my tablets operation quite a bit. I'm a big fan of the universal back button too. Everyone will have their own opinion of what's best for them though I wouldnt bother debating it.

I'm used to the single home button although I don't prefer it. My only minor issue with it is it physical and MAY eventually wear out. Deal with that when/if it ever happens though.

 

[ugahairydawgs]

Somebody plz explain the rationale behind this thread created and continually being discussed under the tag ''iPhone''...mods???😕😕

There's obviously interest in the discussion. Pretty easy to avoid if you don't want to read anything about it.

 

[cotak]

It just comes down to finding one physical button to be perfectly efficient for my needs. I've never wanted or needed extra buttons to get anything done on my iPhone. It's cool if those four capacitive buttons don't bother you, but you aren't going to convince me that it's superior in any way. I still think one physical button is easier and better. Also I almost never use the home button for multitasking. So this argument that the home button could break doesn't apply to me. I also know that some people have issues with capacitive buttons being hit unintentionally whether it be by touch or other items in a pocket.

Back to your response, I find four capacitive buttons to be completely different than one physical button, and I'll take the one physical button every time.

I am waiting to see what happens when Apple ditches the physical home button, give the next iphone a bigger screen and eventually adds a magical pen to the ipad. I have this 😉 feeling a lot of iOS users will jump off tall buildings cause they just can't handle the change... LOL

I used double clicking all the time to switch between apps on my iphone and ipad. And having a dedicated soft task changer button in ICS on the galaxy nexus really is nice. I can answer a text, whatapp msg, gtalk msg, then flip back to whatever I was doing without needing to hit the home button twice then hit a soft icon of the task I want.

In many ways the way the capacitive and soft buttons on android phones make them easier to use 1 handed than the physical home button on iphones. Clicking that home button 1 handed can be annoying especially if you have to do it twice. The phone can flop around in your hand a bit making it potentially easier to drop. The cap and soft buttons don't need you to put any force on them. Making them easier to use than physical buttons.

Anyhow you don't have to believe anyone here but most of us who tells you the extra buttons are useful have actually use the device for a while now. To say the additional buttons are bad or not useful is like my wife trying my manual car once and never driving it again telling people manual is useless. Which she doesn't because she knows she hasn't driven it enough to know why some of us prefer the extra pedal.

 

[Wicked1]

Saw one of these at AT&T

It is good if you like carrying a tablet in your pocket as this is huge.

It runs Android so I am not too excited but it was a nice phone to play with and it has a nice interface and screen.

 

[blairh]

I am waiting to see what happens when Apple ditches the physical home button, give the next iphone a bigger screen and eventually adds a magical pen to the ipad. I have this 😉 feeling a lot of iOS users will jump off tall buildings cause they just can't handle the change... LOL

I used double clicking all the time to switch between apps on my iphone and ipad. And having a dedicated soft task changer button in ICS on the galaxy nexus really is nice. I can answer a text, whatapp msg, gtalk msg, then flip back to whatever I was doing without needing to hit the home button twice then hit a soft icon of the task I want.

In many ways the way the capacitive and soft buttons on android phones make them easier to use 1 handed than the physical home button on iphones. Clicking that home button 1 handed can be annoying especially if you have to do it twice. The phone can flop around in your hand a bit making it potentially easier to drop. The cap and soft buttons don't need you to put any force on them. Making them easier to use than physical buttons.

Anyhow you don't have to believe anyone here but most of us who tells you the extra buttons are useful have actually use the device for a while now. To say the additional buttons are bad or not useful is like my wife trying my manual car once and never driving it again telling people manual is useless. Which she doesn't because she knows she hasn't driven it enough to know why some of us prefer the extra pedal.

I never said the additional buttons were bad or not useful. Personally, in my 3 years and counting of using an iPhone, I've never felt a need or desire for anything other than one physical home button. If at some point I was frustrated by it, I'd say so.

Sure, I can't say 100% what my feelings would be with the Note's four capacitive buttons unless I used it for at least a week. I can tell you just from the short time I did use them that my impressions are that it would be inferior to the one physical button. Also keep in mind, as I've said before, that I don't multitask much on my iPhone.

I really don't think it's a given that the next iPhone won't have that same physical home button. All I really want is a larger screen. I've been bitching about that for years now on this forum. A 4.5" iPhone retina display would be a dream come true for me.

 

[NickG420]

My wife just got the Note after having several iPhones for the last few years...She loves it...And after playing a bit with it I have to admit so do I.

Luckily my local AT&T store only had the one she bought in stock or I may have walked out of there with one as well. I think I want a white one though.

I agree with previous comments that comparing the Note and iPhone to each other is rather needless. They are certainly after different markets. My wife finds the stylus and note writing extremely useful in her day to day business. I'm not sure I would use it near as much. However, the phone is not "huge" in my hands...But I have Tony Robbins hands really..😀

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I bought the Note using my upgrade. After having every generation of iPhone I thought it was time for a change. I really liked the Note for having a big screen and the OLED screen was really nice. I also liked the fact that I could click and drag my music,pictures and movies with out going through a program like iTunes. But not even a full 24hours, I went back and exchanged it for a 4S. I miss the fact that my Mac, iPad 2 and my phone were all connected together and made it so much easier to work. I had to download other programs to make the Note work with my Mac (which I know I had to do) I regretted leaving the iPhone.

You did not give the note enough time. You switch from what you were used to (aka iOS) and as such their is a learning curve you have to get over. My mom went from XP to OSX for example and for the first week or so it had some massive frustration for her as nothing was were it was in windows. It worked very differently. Once she got over the learning curve she was very happy.

Same issue here is you have a learning curve to get over and figure out things do work every differently when you switch OS. One problem you had with the jump is the only mobile OS you really had under your belt was iOS so it was even a steeper learning curve. If you had a few others as well under your belt it is even easier to pick up another one as you have a larger pool of things to draw from and try to make new connection with.

It takes around a week or so to make the change.
My brother struggled a little while when he went from iPhone 3GS to a Galaxy S2. After a week he got over the learning curve and was very happy with it and now does not want to go back to iOS.

It just comes down to finding one physical button to be perfectly efficient for my needs. I've never wanted or needed extra buttons to get anything done on my iPhone. It's cool if those four capacitive buttons don't bother you, but you aren't going to convince me that it's superior in any way. I still think one physical button is easier and better. Also I almost never use the home button for multitasking. So this argument that the home button could break doesn't apply to me. I also know that some people have issues with capacitive buttons being hit unintentionally whether it be by touch or other items in a pocket.

Back to your response, I find four capacitive buttons to be completely different than one physical button, and I'll take the one physical button every time.

How can capacitance buttons be hit unintentionally in a pocket? They are disabled when the screen is off. The digitizer is not even on to read anything. You would need to hit the power button to first turn on the screen and then do all the motions. Until then the digitizer is turned off.

 

[blairh]

How can capacitance buttons be hit unintentionally in a pocket? They are disabled when the screen is off. The digitizer is not even on to read anything. You would need to hit the power button to first turn on the screen and then do all the motions. Until then the digitizer is turned off.

On further thought, you are correct about the unlikelihood of the capacitive buttons being hit unintentionally in a pocket. This was an issue on the third generation iPod's however people were using their iPod's while walking so the screen and buttons were active, etc. However it's a common gripe that capacitive buttons on any smartphone are more likely to be touched unintentionally versus a physical button(s).

 

[Rodimus Prime]

On further thought, you are correct about the unlikelihood of the capacitive buttons being hit unintentionally in a pocket. This was an issue on the third generation iPod's however people were using their iPod's while walking so the screen and buttons were active, etc. However it's a common gripe that capacitive buttons on any smartphone are more likely to be touched unintentionally versus a physical button(s).

Depends how they are handled and it is pretty safe to say you have not really used an Android powered phone that much, For example on my phone with capative buttons the hits are ignored if my finger is slides done from the screen or if I hit the button and slide up to the screen. The captive buttons do not work if I have any finder on the screen. The phone assumes the hit was completely accidental which chances are it was.

Now if I hit the button and slide up to the screen yes my phone gives me the feed back (in my case vibrates) to tell me that I hit the button but do not do any action as it is correctly assuming the hit was by mistake. Remember their is a hold down action for most of the button so if I hold it down then it brings up that action.

Almost all the events activated on key release not key press. The iPhone Home button action events happen on the release not the press.

 

[blairh]

Depends how they are handled and it is pretty safe to say you have not really used an Android powered phone that much, For example on my phone with capative buttons the hits are ignored if my finger is slides done from the screen or if I hit the button and slide up to the screen. The captive buttons do not work if I have any finder on the screen. The phone assumes the hit was completely accidental which chances are it was.

Now if I hit the button and slide up to the screen yes my phone gives me the feed back (in my case vibrates) to tell me that I hit the button but do not do any action as it is correctly assuming the hit was by mistake. Remember their is a hold down action for most of the button so if I hold it down then it brings up that action.

Almost all the events activated on key release not key press. The iPhone Home button action events happen on the release not the press.

I'm speaking on behalf of my friends and coworkers who have Android smartphones with capacitive buttons. They either don't mind the buttons too much or simply do not like them. I have yet to have one of them tell me they prefer it over a physical button. Furthermore every previous iPhone user that I know personally who now uses an Android device (in almost every case because work pays for it/prefers it) has told me they prefer the single physical button of the iPhone. So that feedback, plus my brief time with the Note and my general experiences from using capacitive buttons on Android's in stores, is what I'm basing it off.

 

[jesslla]

Depends how they are handled and it is pretty safe to say you have not really used an Android powered phone that much, For example on my phone with capative buttons the hits are ignored if my finger is slides done from the screen or if I hit the button and slide up to the screen. The captive buttons do not work if I have any finder on the screen. The phone assumes the hit was completely accidental which chances are it was.

That's nice that YOUR phone ignores accidental uses of the capactive buttons. MY android phone does not ignore what is often an accidental hit. It's very annoying to be in the middle of something (usually a solitaire game or an ebook) and then zapped back to the home screen because the side of my thumb brushed against the home button.

I HATE the buttons on my phone. Good in theory, crappy in practice.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

That's nice that YOUR phone ignores accidental uses of the capactive buttons. MY android phone does not ignore what is often an accidental hit. It's very annoying to be in the middle of something (usually a solitaire game or an ebook) and then zapped back to the home screen because the side of my thumb brushed against the home button.

I HATE the buttons on my phone. Good in theory, crappy in practice.

You know you might want to list your model and manufacture. It would help. I know what I wrote applies to Samsung and Motorola phones (tested on both)
Now if you are running a custom rom all bets are off.

 

[jesslla]

You know you might want to list your model and manufacture. It would help. I know what I wrote applies to Samsung and Motorola phones (tested on both)
Now if you are running a custom rom all bets are off.

Sorry, I should have thought of that. It's an HTC Aria. Stock. I could never be bothered to install custom roms.

 

[bryanc28]

I don't mind the one button of an iPhone now that I'm used too it I just wish it wasn't physical. I use it constantly and know its going to be the first thing to break.

Ugh, I know how you feel! I have a love/hate thing going with the home button. Love the iPhone & won't use any other phone, but I hope whenever the next iPhone comes out there is a better button.