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As a developer, I can back this up. I made a web game that ran smoothly on an iPhone 4, averaging about 30fps, great on an iPhone 5 at 60fps, and like crap on the FOUR core Galaxy S3, at about 20fps.

Don't even get me started on the fact that I had to support Android all the way back to 2.3.3, and the Android Browser which has been modified by the various hardware makers (HTC, Samsung, etc) to break a few web standards we needed. I can't wait for the day when the whole world is on a late version of Chrome.

As a fellow developer, either you are exaggerating or you don't know how to optimize code.

And although fragmentation in Android is a real and big problem, you don't have to support Android all the way back to 2.3.3. You do it because you want to.
 
I think you might be missing the point. Apple could have made their A6 faster but chose not too because it was not necessary in order to run iOS 6 and most likely because it would lead to higher battery consumption. So, actually, it should be as fast as necessary, not as fast as possible.

I know Apple comes off as lame with some of their reasons to do or not do things but when they say that specs aren't THAT important, they are very right.

should woulda coulda
 
Apple should release some bigger screen offering and listening to their consumer concerning updating their iOS instead of putting ad about some JD Powers rewards....
Some peoples learn the hard ways.. maybe their goal is to return to minimal market share like on their Mac line .... (now a cheap Macbook is at least 2 or 2.5 time more expensive than a cheap laptop PC)

A new Mac Pro cannot hurt too :p

If Apple makes a 4.3-4.8" screened iPhone, will you be on this site complaining about the 6 hour battery life?
 
Please compare the number of cores - The s4 is roughly double the speed of the iPhone5: It only needs double the cores and each core runs 600MHz faster.

Am I the only one loling at this chip-design-fail?

LOL WE ARE BLIND AND STUPID. What does this say about blogger. Yes person maybe lol
 
And this means?

It means if IN THEORY, you could run the same application on both phones that used 100% of the processor (like video encoding for instance) the S4 would finish twice as quickly.

However this is impossible.

Plus I used the HTC One the other week with Chrome browser and it fails to scroll my website or others faster than about a jerky 3 FPS.

Im a lot more interested in how efficiently a phone can run rather than how many raw ghz and cores its waisting trying to do a simple task smoothly.

For the record this isn't "iPhone defending" because I used the Blackberry in the list here and that too gave a much snappier, smoother and enjoyable experience than any of the Android handsets.

And thats before we get into the fact that they are nearly 1/3rd of the size bigger, so of course they should have higher specs. The Galaxy S3 mini which is similar in size to the iPhone has terrible specs and performance.

Its all relative. Never had raw computing numbers meant so little in real world experience than in these bench marks.
 
As an android user I agree with others that comparing raw benchmarks between the GS4 and the iPhone 5 is pointless. The operating systems are too different.

BUT I think it is interesting how much faster the GS4 is compared to its predessesor the GS3. This is also impressive considering this is the american version of processor.

But ultimately real world use trumps benchmarks.
 
Can't wait for the new A7 processor

The beauty of this is how much the A7 and new ImgTec GPGPU combined will stomp on the S4, on paper, and especially in the real world.
 
What a coincidence, I just mentioned Megahertz Myth in another post earlier today. And now the news that Samsung is beating Apple in processor speeds on their phones.

Apple is really starting to get beat on the specs and Samsung is giving them a run for their money on sales. Looks like it's time for Apple to either

• revive their campaign about the Megahertz Myth — updating it to Gigahertz and expanding it to include resolution as well.
• blow everyone away with the next iPhone.

I'm hoping for the latter.

Reviving the MHz myth makes no sense. Both Apple and Samsung are using ARM based designs (not like PowerPC vs Intel). And in this case Samsung is using the ARM Cortex A15, a very up to date CPU architecture. It's not clear how ARM Cortex A15 competes with Apple's custom swift core in the A6 at this point. Possibly it's better. Anybody?
 
Impressed and not at the same time

The speed jump is big and yet I'm feeling unimpressed.

Why?

It has 2 more cores and 1.9Ghz vs 1.3Ghz in the iPhone, I expected more than 2X performance honestly.

The hands on S4 demos still show lag and stutter in the UX, for shame.

The power of ARM continues to develop quickly and I can't wait to see what Apple has in store with Jony Ives running the creative show.

My .02 cents.
 
im an android user but who cares.... it should be faster as it was just released... the iphone 5 is what 7 months old now?

it shouldn't matter if the iphone 5 is 7 months older. the price is still the same.
 
Do you realize the software isn't done yet? They still have 1-2 months before the phone is released? Do I realize that they SHOULD have had better software running right now - sure. But as someone wrote on one of the sites - when you pay the kind of money you do to have your keynote at RCMH and everything that goes with it .... you don't delay your product unveiling. You just make sure it does everything it's supposed to when it hits the public. Or yes - you're doomed :)

When is software ever "done" these days? Lol

However, the S4 is out in April. I highly doubt the manufacturing lines are on standby for much longer after the keynote. What you saw in video is close to final if not final.
 
This reminds me of when people compare Dodge Chargers to BMW's.

Dodge Chargers have V8 engines, tons of horsepower and torque, but compared to the BMW 3 series (with less of those "specs"), the ride, handling, and overall experience is sub-par.

To me the device is all about how it works as a whole, and excess horsepower means nothing if it isn't utilized into a machine designed well from the bottom up.

:apple:

Some times the power does hinder the overall experience. A 328xiA is a rather mundane car. Weak engine, really floaty suspension, terrible steering feel, and a god awful transmission. Despite being the same chassis, the manual RWD models drive so much better, particularly the 335i/is and M3. (Though a the previous gen 328i 6MT w/ a 3 stage manifold swap and sport/m-sport suspension would be fun -- but this is akin to jailbreaking).

My point is, there's no reason you can't have both the power and the rest of the experience, except that Apple won't let you.
 
Apple fails...

sigh... switching to Samsung on my next phone....

yeah Apple... where is the innovation? getting tired of overpriced iteration...
 
So, by this logic, Apple has no excuse in not giving us a monster eight-core, no?

Yes and they have patents on mini internal combustion engines to run it.

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This is why I can't get myself to buy a smartphone: within a year it will be twice as slow as everything else around. Within 2 years it will be unusable.

This doesn't just apply to the Galaxy S4 but to every smartphone.

Having never had one, how would you know? I've had a 3G and now a 4S. Never had usability issues with the former at the end of its life...

I guess it depends on what you want.
 
WOW and...

Of course it would be faster! It's got 2x the cores over the iPhone 5 + powerful CPU + higher speed (by 0.6 GHz) + double the RAM. It would be the laughing stock of the industry if it were otherwise. Kudos for Samsung for releasing a beast of a phone. However, not bad for Apple for holding their own against the lot of quad core and topping the dual core phones. It's gonna be an interesting spring /early summer if rumours hold true of a late Spring announcement by Apple.
 
When is software ever "done" these days? Lol

However, the S4 is out in April. I highly doubt the manufacturing lines are on standby for much longer after the keynote. What you saw in video is close to final if not final.

Loading software on devices can wait until the very last minute - and often does. They have time.
 
Not necc. The HTC One, Samsung S4 and some others are the same if not more expensive. Oh sure - there are several phones with bigger screens and/or are less expensive. But that's a different matter.

Most of the non iPhone smart phones sold by far are to people who are getting a free or low cost phone. Making an iPhone with a bigger screen will increase sales but not as much as people think.
 
Most of the non iPhone smart phones sold by far are to people who are getting a free or low cost phone. Making an iPhone with a bigger screen will increase sales but not as much as people think.

Your opinion. I don't agree on either front.
 
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