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I still feel like most people who want to move to Android only want to do so for a bigger screen. Apple should have jumped on that a while ago to save some marketshare. Otherwise, I feel that iOS still offers a great experience. I love the simplicity and that I never have to worry about it.

Funnily enough I don't care for a bigger screen. I find my iPhone 4's screen perfect, I have an iPad for enjoying content in a big way! But thats just me.
 
Wait. 4 cores > 2?
I'm confused. If 2's company and 3's a crowd then surely 4 is just crap.
 
wasnt the 4S 2x the speed of the 4? so, aren't they always much faster.

I don't give a damn about paper specs. If the phone doesn't perform well, what's the point on having all that horsepower? It's the same thing as having a Ferrari and not knowing how to drive it.

Some of the hands-on videos still show choppy transitions and the most funny feature is the Air Wave or whatever they called it which just doesn't work properly. One of the videos I saw had a guy saying how great a feature it was and it took him a good 5 attempts to get scrolling working in the browser. Apple had a bad misstep with Maps and Siri wasn't properly developed when it first rolled out, but I mean, this just goes to show how most Samsung phones have with extremely poor hardware and software integration.

Now, I'm not bashing Android as an OS. For the people who enjoy it, it must be a great system. I just prefer the way to do things in iOS. However, if I were to swap to Android, a Samsung smartphone would be on the bottom list of my preferences. I'd go with sony or htc. I've owned a Samsung Omnia before my first iPhone and I wasn't happy with the build of the phone. Yes, great specs for the time, especially compared to the 1st gen iPhone, but the iPhone outperformed the Omnia in every software related task (the camera on the Omnia was pretty good, though).
 
I don't give a damn about paper specs. If the phone doesn't perform well, what's the point on having all that horsepower? It's the same thing as having a Ferrari and not knowing how to drive it.

Some of the hands-on videos still show choppy transitions and the most funny feature is the Air Wave or whatever they called it which just doesn't work properly. One of the videos I saw had a guy saying how great a feature it was and it took him a good 5 attempts to get scrolling working in the browser. Apple had a bad misstep with Maps and Siri wasn't properly developed when it first rolled out, but I mean, this just goes to show how most Samsung phones have with extremely poor hardware and software integration.

Now, I'm not bashing Android as an OS. For the people who enjoy it, it must be a great system. I just prefer the way to do things in iOS. However, if I were to swap to Android, a Samsung smartphone would be on the bottom list of my preferences. I'd go with sony or htc. I've owned a Samsung Omnia before my first iPhone and I wasn't happy with the build of the phone. Yes, great specs for the time, especially compared to the 1st gen iPhone, but the iPhone outperformed the Omnia in every software related task (the camera on the Omnia was pretty good, though).

I've said it before - and I am not advocating for or against the phone - but the software on the demo units was not complete. So I think it's to judge based on the released version/reviews versus what was shown at the event.
 
I still feel like most people who want to move to Android only want to do so for a bigger screen. Apple should have jumped on that a while ago to save some marketshare. Otherwise, I feel that iOS still offers a great experience. I love the simplicity and that I never have to worry about it.

What people really want are less expensive phones. Even if Apple had gone with a bigger screen, people would still be choosing the Android phones since it cost them little to none.
 
Ouch :/

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What people really want are less expensive phones. Even if Apple had gone with a bigger screen, people would still be choosing the Android phones since it cost them little to none.

Not necc. The HTC One, Samsung S4 and some others are the same if not more expensive. Oh sure - there are several phones with bigger screens and/or are less expensive. But that's a different matter.
 
Actually, the S4 will be released a month from now.
The iPhone will have been on the market for more than 7 months by then.

Regarding the speed difference, Galaxy S3 owners love to claim that their phone is faster than the iPhone, but that's an utter BS. I use both the S3 and the iPhone 5 regularly and the S3 is unbearably slow and laggy compared to the iPhone. Those who claim otherwise have not used an iPhone for 3 years.
 
I've said it before - and I am not advocating for or against the phone - but the software on the demo units was not complete. So I think it's to judge based on the released version/reviews versus what was shown at the event.

This is just a poor excuse. First impression is very important.

Point is iPhone`s software and hardware integration is better than any android phone.
 
If iPhone is performing better than Galaxy S4 in real world situation then these benchmarks are useless.
 
then we'll see the iPhone 5S scores and it'll toast those scores

Then the Nexus 5 will toast the iPhone 5S, then the Note 3 will toast the Nexus 5, then the iPhone 6 will toast the Note 4, and then the SGS5 will toast the Iphone 5, rinse and repeat...
 
This is just a poor excuse. First impression is very important.

Point is iPhone`s software and hardware integration is better than any android phone.

I agree it's not an optimal excuse. But at the end of the day - what's released is more important than anything else. First impressions are important - but so are second ones in the tech world. There's nothing better/worse to read that once in the hands of reviewers the device performs better or worse than their quick demo.

The whole hardware/software integration thing is subjective. It really comes down to use cases. Both my iPhone and Android phone work incredibly well.
 
Please compare the number of cores - The s4 is roughly double the speed of the iPhone5: It only needs double the cores and each core runs 600MHz faster.

Am I the only one loling at this chip-design-fail?

So, by this logic, Apple has no excuse in not giving us a monster eight-core, no?
 
Wow

Wait a minute. Samsung Galaxy phone model from this year is faster than Apple's iPhone from last year?

WOW!

Wait a minute. Samsung Galaxy s3 from early last year is faster than Apple's iPhone 5 from later last year?

WOW!
 
It doesn't have 8 cores. The problem is people with poorly knowledge about what they are talking.

Which it?

It (Exynos 5 Octa) has 8 cores. By all appearances so far, only 4 can activate at a time.
This still doesn't negate the fact that it has 8 cores.

It (Snapdragon) has 4 cores.

The problem is people with poor English skills.
 
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This is why I can't get myself to buy a smartphone: within a year it will be twice as slow as everything else around. Within 2 years it will be unusable.

This doesn't just apply to the Galaxy S4 but to every smartphone.
 
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