Samsung Galaxy Tablet Ban in Australia Lifted, Apple to Appeal

[Mad-B-One]

versus (vs) or (v.)
Literally "in the direction". Mistakenly used in English as "against" (probably from "adversus"), particularly to denote two opposing parties, such as in a legal dispute or a sports match.

Instead of looking through long list.

Yea, see, I would argue that. You cannot literally translate in context cases. Since (ad)versus in Latin is used in court cases as opposing parties, the correct translation into English would indeed be "against" because English older roots are Germanic and have a different idea set behind it. So in Germanic terms, you fight "against" each other, in Latin/Roman views might be that you go to court "with each other." This is how may literal translations do not make sense unless you state what all the word translated can mean.

 

[aerok]

Yea, see, I would argue that. You cannot literally translate in context cases. Since (ad)versus in Latin is used in court cases as opposing parties, the correct translation into English would indeed be "against" because English older roots are Germanic and have a different idea set behind it. So in Germanic terms, you fight "against" each other, in Latin/Roman views might be that you go to court "with each other." This is how may literal translations do not make sense unless you state what all the word translated can mean.

Well you sound like you have more knowledge into it than I do, I only took 2 boring law classes because it fit in my schedule

 

[voonyx]

I wonder why most of your posts sound like this:

'Why?'
'What?'
'What did Samsung steal?'

If they didn't steal/infringe, Apple's case against Samsung would have been dismissed on the very first day.

To a lot of people, it is clear how Samsung actually stole Apple's product in terms of design, software and marketing. If its not that obvious to you, at least do not sound rhetorical by asking the same question again and again and ignoring the entire lawsuit series b/w the two; and then ask people to stop trolling.

Can't have said it better myself. Oletros' posts are all "What did they do?" "Where did this happen?" "Can you show me?" "How do you know?" LOL. If Apple's case had no merit, it would have been dismissed immediately. If Apple's case had no merit, the Tab wouldn't have been banned in the first place! This thing is not anywhere close to over, nor does it mean that Tabs are going to be sold in Australia tomorrow night. Long way to go, Oletros. Try to keep up.

Waiting for..."How do you know it has merit, does you?"

 

[aerok]

Can't have said it better myself. Oletros' posts are all "What did they do?" "Where did this happen?" "Can you show me?" "How do you know?" LOL. If Apple's case had no merit, it would have been dismissed immediately. If Apple's case had no merit, the Tab wouldn't have been banned in the first place! This thing is not anywhere close to over, nor does it mean that Tabs are going to be sold in Australia tomorrow night. Long way to go, Oletros. Try to keep up.

Waiting for..."How do you know it has merit, does you?"

But then again, your opinion is highly biased against Android. If the contrary would have happened, it is highly possible your reaction would have been very different.

 

[Oletros]

But then again, your opinion is highly biased against Android. If the contrary would have happened, it is highly possible your reaction would have been very different.

Do you know the best part?

He is still making ridiculous claims because he doesn't know nothing about the case but he still writes showing his ignorance.

Perhaps he need to read the TWO court rulings.

And he doesn't understand that when I ask is because I KNOW what I'm talking about and I'm showing that the person I'm asking is talking nonsense.

And if anyone finds where I have said that Apple case has no merit, I will gift him an iPad.

 

[voonyx]

But then again, your opinion is highly biased against Android. If the contrary would have happened, it is highly possible your reaction would have been very different.

Not at all. The problem that happens here is people simply cannot handle someone who is objective. You either have to be a fanboy for Apple or a fanboy for Android. When someone isn't either of those, the fanboys can't take it and automatically assume the worst. I call it like I see it, always have, always will.

 

[aerok]

Not at all. The problem that happens here is people simply cannot handle someone who is objective. You either have to be a fanboy for Apple or a fanboy for Android. When someone isn't either of those, the fanboys can't take it and automatically assume the worst. I call it like I see it, always have, always will.

I have a hard time believing that. Maybe you might not be a fanboy but you have a huge unusual hate for Android and fandroids. Readings your rants on your blog, I can clearly see that you have a huuuuuuge hate on fandroids and Android.

Don't get me wrong, fandroids are annoying but so are Apple fanboys (LOL at complicated Back Button), and because your hate is only aimed towards one direction, I find it hard to believe you are objective.

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Do you know the best part?

He is still making ridiculous claims because he doesn't know nothing about the case but he still writes showing his ignorance.

Perhaps he need to read the TWO court rulings.

And he doesn't understand that when I ask is because I KNOW what I'm talking about and I'm showing that the person I'm asking is talking nonsense.

And if anyone finds where I have said that Apple case has no merit, I will gift him an iPad.

Like I previously mentioned many times, love for one anything can blind us in craaaaazy ways.

 

[voonyx]

I have a hard time believing that. Maybe you might not be a fanboy but you have a huge unusual hate for Android and fandroids. Readings your rants on your blog, I can clearly see that you have a huuuuuuge hate on fandroids and Android.

Don't get me wrong, fandroids are annoying but so are Apple fanboys, and because your hate is only aimed towards one direction, I find it hard to believe you are objective.

Meh, I've called Apple fanboys idiots on my blog plenty of times. But yes, my blog is overwhelmingly aimed at Android fanboys, because frankly they give me the most material. I mean, they come to this site and bash Apple users. That's pathetic.

Apple users (fanboys or not) simply do not bash Android users as much as the other way around, and they sure as all hell don't visit Android related sites to troll as much as Android fanboys do. Like I said, I call it like I see it. Fanboys on both sides are idiots.

 

[lilo777]

Can't have said it better myself. Oletros' posts are all "What did they do?" "Where did this happen?" "Can you show me?" "How do you know?" LOL. If Apple's case had no merit, it would have been dismissed immediately. If Apple's case had no merit, the Tab wouldn't have been banned in the first place! This thing is not anywhere close to over, nor does it mean that Tabs are going to be sold in Australia tomorrow night. Long way to go, Oletros. Try to keep up.

Waiting for..."How do you know it has merit, does you?"

The case is over. Not only that, it appears that Apple's lawsuit against Samsung in USA is about to be over too. Not only that, this lawsuit may end up in invalidation of Apple patents (nothing new) as reported in this article.

Quote:

In 1994, the publisher Knight-Ridder produced and distributed a video that showed such a device with many of the elements embodied in Apple’s later D’889 patent application, including an overall rectangular shape with four evenly rounded corners, a flat clear surface on the front of the device, a rim surrounding the front surface, a substantially flat back panel that rounds up near the edges to form the rim around the front surface, and a thin form factor. Apple failed to disclose this device to the PTO during the D’889 patent’s prosecution, even though Apple
knew of its existence directly from Dr. Fidler, with whom Apple worked.

 

[voonyx]

The case is over. Not only that, it appears that Apple's lawsuit against Samsung in USA is about to be over too. Not only that, this lawsuit may end up in invalidation of Apple patents (nothing new) as reported in this article.

Quote:

In 1994, the publisher Knight-Ridder produced and distributed a video that showed such a device with many of the elements embodied in Apple’s later D’889 patent application, including an overall rectangular shape with four evenly rounded corners, a flat clear surface on the front of the device, a rim surrounding the front surface, a substantially flat back panel that rounds up near the edges to form the rim around the front surface, and a thin form factor. Apple failed to disclose this device to the PTO during the D’889 patent’s prosecution, even though Apple
knew of its existence directly from Dr. Fidler, with whom Apple worked.

I'll pull an Oletros. Can you show me where it shows that the case is over?

The case is not over. I'm not commenting on the outcome of the case, or saying Apple will win or that Samsung will lose. What my post said was the case still has a long way to go. They're not going to form a special assembly in court tomorrow and declare the case over.

 

[Judas1]

Patent laws just can't keep up with modern technologies. They are too easily given, and as a result they don't do what they were meant to do, which is protect true intellectual property. I wish many hardware patents get thrown out, and most software patents get thrown out. Only real innovation should be protected.

 

[lilo777]

I'll pull an Oletros. Can you show me where it shows that the case is over?

The case is not over. I'm not commenting on the outcome of the case, or saying Apple will win or that Samsung will lose. What my post said was the case still has a long way to go. They're not going to form a special assembly in court tomorrow and declare the case over.

Sure, technically you are correct. We do not know if the case will keep going on for a while more but the outcome is kind of written on the wall.

 

[Renzatic]

Apple users (fanboys or not) simply do not bash Android users as much as the other way around, and they sure as all hell don't visit Android related sites to troll as much as Android fanboys do. Like I said, I call it like I see it. Fanboys on both sides are idiots.

Total and complete BS. You go to any tech site, and the comments sections are all just one idiot who likes one cell phone and/or OS calling out another idiot who likes another cell phone/OS. Android fans tend to think Apple fans flood their sites to smear them and spread OLOL FUD, and vice versa for Apple fans. The only difference is perspective. Since you like Apple, you hop on the victim box the first chance you get to call out all these Android Invaders or whatever.

To me, it's all just a bunch of people screaming MY STUFF IS BETTER THAN YOUR STUFF AND YOU'RE STUPID FOR LIKING IT AND STUPID FOR COMING HERE TO TELL ME I'M STUPID CUZ THAT'S STUPID AND YOU'RE STUPID FOR BEING STUPID. STUPID!

Yeeeuuuppp.

 

[Mad-B-One]

Well you sound like you have more knowledge into it than I do, I only took 2 boring law classes because it fit in my schedule

Degree in International Languages, . One of the classes was English Linguistics Capstone and I speak German and French. When you compare French (mostly Latin based) and German to the "bastard language" English and look into roots, it gets quite interesting. Also took some classes in Dutch and Afrikaans which are also "bastard languages." Oh, and if you speak these languages, don't be offended. That term is used to indicate that they are mostly melting-pot languages with a remedy of a small original core (e.g. English has almost no Gaelic / Celtic left).

 

[aerok]

Meh, I've called Apple fanboys idiots on my blog plenty of times. But yes, my blog is overwhelmingly aimed at Android fanboys, because frankly they give me the most material. I mean, they come to this site and bash Apple users. That's pathetic.

Apple users (fanboys or not) simply do not bash Android users as much as the other way around, and they sure as all hell don't visit Android related sites to troll as much as Android fanboys do. Like I said, I call it like I see it. Fanboys on both sides are idiots.

Both sides are very annoying, I personally find Apple fanboys to be worse, to each their own.

Btw. HTC Sense had People before WM7 came out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Sense

 

[Oletros]

Sure, technically you are correct. We do not know if the case will keep going on for a while more but the outcome is kind of written on the wall.

No, the case is not written at all

 

[aerok]

No, the case is not written at all

Not written and won't be until 2012, correct me if I'm wrong Oletros.

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Total and complete BS. You go to any tech site, and the comments sections are all just one idiot who likes one cell phone and/or OS calling out another idiot who likes another cell phone/OS. Android fans tend to think Apple fans flood their sites to smear them and spread OLOL FUD, and vice versa for Apple fans. The only difference is perspective. Since you like Apple, you hop on the victim box the first chance you get to call out all these Android Invaders or whatever.

To me, it's all just a bunch of people screaming MY STUFF IS BETTER THAN YOUR STUFF AND YOU'RE STUPID FOR LIKING IT AND STUPID FOR COMING HERE TO TELL ME I'M STUPID CUZ THAT'S STUPID AND YOU'RE STUPID FOR BEING STUPID. STUPID!

Yeeeuuuppp.

Yes perspective plays a big role on which side we think is worse. I personally slightly prefer Android over iOS (But I still like them both) because it permits to customize almost A to Z but I do agree that both sides to go on different forums/bogs/discussions to troll.

 

[Oletros]

Not written and won't be until 2012, correct me if I'm wrong Oletros.

Yap, until March at least if I remember correctly.

 

[aerok]

Degree in International Languages, . One of the classes was English Linguistics Capstone and I speak German and French. When you compare French (mostly Latin based) and German to the "bastard language" English and look into roots, it gets quite interesting. Also took some classes in Dutch and Afrikaans which are also "bastard languages." Oh, and if you speak these languages, don't be offended. That term is used to indicate that they are mostly melting-pot languages with a remedy of a small original core (e.g. English has almost no Gaelic / Celtic left).

Screw you! I hate it when people are more educated than me! j/k

I'm trilingual too, English/French/Korean but I just generally suck at languages.

 

[Oletros]

Screw you! I hate it when people are more educated than me! j/k

I'm trilingual too, English/French/Korean but I just generally suck at languages.

I'm trilingual too, Spanish/Catalan/Italian and you know, bad English so.

 

[aerok]

I'm trilingual too, Spanish/Catalan/Italian and you know, bad English so.

I hate Catalan, it put me off ground when I went to Barcelona. I had completely forgotten that the language was different there so I got lost instantly lol

 

[divinox]

Both sides are very annoying, I personally find Apple fanboys to be worse, to each their own.

Btw. HTC Sense had People before WM7 came out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Sense

Could be wrong, but from what i've seen HTC's version of People (while having some overlap) are quite different from Microsofts implementation of the People hub.

 

[aerok]

Could be wrong, but from what i've seen HTC's version of People (while having some overlap) are quite different from Microsofts implementation of the People hub.

I have not tried the one from ICS or Microsoft but from what I see from the presentation of ICS, it looked and worked similarly to the one in HTC Sense.

And also, correct me if I'm wrong, the social integration is shown differently as WM7 uses tabs and Android differently (???), not sure at all. I will root my Nexus One and install ICS to confirm later.

 

[divinox]

I have not tried the one from ICS or Microsoft but from what I see from the presentation of ICS, it looked and worked similarly to the one in HTC Sense.

And also, correct me if I'm wrong, the social integration is shown differently as WM7 uses tabs and Android differently (???), not sure at all. I will root my Nexus One and install ICS to confirm later.

Oh yeah, you can check the people hub out on any android (or iOS) device... or, so they have me believe. Haven't checked it. Cant find the link now... internet at the hotel is carp.
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edit: here you go. instant wp7 inside your apple or android device. can't wait for LTD to try it! :- )

http://aka.ms/wpdemo

 

[Renzatic]

Oh yeah, you can check the people hub out on any android (or iOS) device... or, so they have me believe. Haven't checked it. Cant find the link now... internet at the hotel is carp.
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edit: here you go. instant wp7 inside your apple or android device. can't wait for LTD to try it! :- )

http://aka.ms/wpdemo

That's pretty cool, actually. Though I don't think it's the best way to convince someone hardheaded to that WP7 is actually fairly decent. The worst of the worst will probably say it's crap because they clicked multiple times on the marketplace button, but it didn't take them anywhere. Not realizing, you know, that it's a limited demo, and only shows off the basic navigation features, and doesn't go indepth with the whole thing.

And LTD? He'll just post up another survey chart and blabber on the way he does.