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There are tons of gamers out there who crave faster-than-IPS response times and who want to play at high resolutions. The fairly affordable price is a bonus. For them this monitor is ideal. I doubt many of them care much about Thunderbolt since most of them probably aren't playing games on Macs.

But who cares about having a 1ms response time? It's so much lower then the FPS you'd playing at. How about having an IPS display with a 5ms response time so it's nice for everybody? I guess they're too focused on the race to the bottom.
 
Looking fwd to explore some of these monitors in Q2. But when will Apple release their new display, is it not about time?!
 
Fail for you perhaps.

There are tons of gamers out there who crave faster-than-IPS response times and who want to play at high resolutions. The fairly affordable price is a bonus. For them this monitor is ideal. I doubt many of them care much about Thunderbolt since most of them probably aren't playing games on Macs.

For programmers this monitor also fits the bill because having lots of crisp text onscreen is important to programmers, but color fidelity usually isn't.

For photographers, UX designers, graphic artists or other creative professionals I wouldn't recommend this monitor. For them, yes, this is a fail.

You're kidding right? That's not the demographic who would spend $700 on a monitor. But guess who would?
 
I want a 4K 3D monitor to replace my 1080p 3D monitor.

I will not downgrade to 2D.
 
Are these TN panels like Dell's 28" offering?

You'd think something like that would make it into the article...

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Just another mediocre Samsung product that falls all kinds of short.

Please. It's not unique to Samsung.

And remember how everyone wanted a Samsung panel in their rMBP?

Samsung makes some great displays.
 
guys, how much more is IPS compared to TN? ie. what price range are we looking at if the same monitor was IPS?
Is IPS really that much more expensive then TN that the lower price race won't allow for a monitor like this to be IPS?
I was amazed by the screen and wanted to buy it but then the whole TN put me off.
And if Apple will release one, what price range are we looking at? Is it going to be outrageously expensive as the professional Sharp one they are offering now or can we get a a great 4K display from Apple that is IPS and is more on prosumer level (ie. around $1500)?
Can someone with more knowledge about these enlighten me, please?
 
TN panel = no buy.

They basically did the same thing as Dell, ASUS and Lenovo. I'd rather pay significantly more to get an IPS panel.

Don't they think there's a market for ~$1,500 IPS 4k 27-28" monitors? I'd rather move up in size from my current 8-year-old 24" monitor, and 32" is too big for my desk and too expensive for my wallet.

Maybe there is a reason they all have chosen TN. The Asus rendition is receiving mostly 4.5 stars over on Amazon.
 
Waiting to see what is coming from Apple in the form of an 4K Cinema Display with built-in Apple TV.
 
I hope, nay pray, that the coming OLED big screens (> 40 inchers) can do 4K 60 Hz for gaming. That would make for a religious experience.

But for now, I am content with my mighty HP 2475w and ATI 5870 which won't cut the mustard for 4K. 4K for me will have to wait.
 
hey all I was just posting a quick question because even though I have professional background in video and graphics I haven't used the skills in several years and I'm behind in certain technologies.

What is a TN Panel ? I know my new late 2013 13" macbook pro with retina is an IPS panel It also has HDMI and can drive a 4k Display if i were to chose to get one. Is a TN panel the same as a TFT display? i remember TFT displays looking washed out and poor viewing angles. the panel in this retina macbook is absolutely beautiful and a joy to look at. Also I have one HDTV that i believe is still TFT it's also CCFL backlight. My main TV is a 42" panasonic plasma TV that's a 1080p display at 600 hrtz refresh rate. I was curious how that would work for a large display for graphics and video ? considering i can use HDMI to forward the mac audio to the TV i can also use the speakers.

Since this thread is about the samsung monitor, i did want to add i tried samsung displays in mid 2007 - 08 i think it was and both failed in less then a year, from that experience I really don't trust their products and at the time their customer service wasn't much better either as they wanted me to pay to send in the displays even though it was under warranty.
 
Apple Retina 27" 4K IPS @60hz monitor can't come soon enough.

hey all I was just posting a quick question because even though I have professional background in video and graphics I haven't used the skills in several years and I'm behind in certain technologies.

What is a TN Panel ? I know my new late 2013 13" macbook pro with retina is an IPS panel It also has HDMI and can drive a 4k Display if i were to chose to get one. Is a TN panel the same as a TFT display? i remember TFT displays looking washed out and poor viewing angles. the panel in this retina macbook is absolutely beautiful and a joy to look at. Also I have one HDTV that i believe is still TFT it's also CCFL backlight. My main TV is a 42" panasonic plasma TV that's a 1080p display at 600 hrtz refresh rate. I was curious how that would work for a large display for graphics and video ? considering i can use HDMI to forward the mac audio to the TV i can also use the speakers.

Since this thread is about the samsung monitor, i did want to add i tried samsung displays in mid 2007 - 08 i think it was and both failed in less then a year, from that experience I really don't trust their products and at the time their customer service wasn't much better either as they wanted me to pay to send in the displays even though it was under warranty.

TFT is LCD. TN and IPS are TFT LCD panel types. The benefits of an IPS panel is greater viewing angles and better color accuracy. You can read more about it here. Personally, I can't stand TN panels and buy IPS only.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin-film-transistor_liquid-crystal_display
 
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Maybe there is a reason they all have chosen TN. The Asus rendition is receiving mostly 4.5 stars over on Amazon.

Sure there's a reason: cost.

Of course people have different expectations depending the price they pay.
I doubt this would have 4.5 stars if it was, say, $2000, because people would expect it to perform like a $2000 display.

The reverse is also true: this Sharp 4K IPS monitor probably wouldn't have 1.5 stars if it was $700.
 
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It's pretty cool that you can hook up two different computers to 1 monitor though. I'll stick to my 27" QHD Dell for the time being. :D
 
TN and no Thunderbolt? Fail.
Why do you need Thunderbolt, if you have DP?

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Those gamers also crave super-high framerates. Good luck getting those at 4k resolution unless you have that new $3,000 Titan Z GPU Nvidia just announced.
Those 4K@60 Hz displays make no sense, if standard GPUs have a problem with them. I think that shows the true state of the 4K displays in the industry.
 
Fail for you perhaps.

There are tons of gamers out there who crave faster-than-IPS response times and who want to play at high resolutions. The fairly affordable price is a bonus. For them this monitor is ideal. I doubt many of them care much about Thunderbolt since most of them probably aren't playing games on Macs.

Those gamers also crave super-high framerates. Good luck getting those at 4k resolution unless you have that new $3,000 Titan Z GPU Nvidia just announced.

What? Two of today's GTX 780 (for example) in SLI mode will easily do at least 50 fps in 4k in a variety of games. Not in a Mac though, obviously.

You don't need a Titan Z.

But then this display is not targeted at Mac users, by and large.
 
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"This is the year of affordable 4K monitors"

Whatever it takes in the race to the bottom...

I think this is good step forward. At least for me it is better than $2,500 Dell ultrasharps at 4k IPS.

Can't imagine how much an Apple one will cost with thunderbolt. Probably $3,000 each.
 
I know a few moderately serious gamers and when they do a build they are generally spending 3-5K.. they could easily drop that kind of money on a display.

Which they could get much better deal by getting a Dell U2713HM for the same price. 2560x1440 is not 4K, but color reproduction of IPS panel outweigh anything else.

TN LCDs should be dead already along with CRT. Please kill it.
 
What? Two of today's GTX 780 (for example) in SLI mode will easily do at least 50 fps in 4k in a variety of games. Not in a Mac though, obviously.

You don't need a Titan Z.

But then this display is not targeted at Mac users, by and large.

A GTX 780 SLI is not far away from a Titan Z in terms of performance, and still $1000+ worth of GPU alone (+motherboard/power supply for SLI). When you spend so much on GPUs, why cheap out on the display?
 
Photographers and graphics artists will be turned off by the poor color accuracy and will rather use a lower-res display with accurate colors.

As I said above, it's also not ideal for gamers on a budget either since running modern games at 4k resolution is so intensive that it requires thousands of dollars worth of GPU which implies you're well, not a gamer on a budget.

The potential market probably just uninformed consumers attracted by buzzwords. I suspect a bunch of kids will buy this for gaming just to realize it's unusable, and will end up setting it at 1080p resolution...

The 4k market right now is rather small when it comes to TVs. There simply is not that much content and the prices are quite high. The TV manufacturers are trying to push the content creators in that direction (essentially to be prepared for when the market moves that way. You just have to wonder whether it will catch on or whether it will flop like the 3D movement.

If the color rendition is as poor as you indicate (I'm not challenging you), this definitely will have problems once the word gets out. The PC world is where the bleeding edge gamers are and I think they would be more interested in a large screen with a high refresh rate. Cheers.
 
When do you guys think a retina iMac is coming? I want a 21.5 inch iMac soon but it would really suck having a non-retina machine for 5 years or so and a retina version coming out a soon after I buy it.


The current iMac is retina, it was just introduced before this retina hype.
 
I know a few moderately serious gamers and when they do a build they are generally spending 3-5K.. they could easily drop that kind of money on a display.

Always makes me laugh reading "serious" and "gamer" together :D
 
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