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Samsung May Announce Galaxy Note 5 in August to Beat iPhone Launch

AppleScruff1 said:
Whatever you say. Hopefully you'll get what you wish for, a world where there is nothing but Apple.
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So, the point you were trying to make is that you hate and\or fear Apple?

I don't want a world with nothing but Apple. I hope Microsoft is able to be successful with their phone OS. I hope (not likely though) that Nokia and Blueberry don't ride off into the sunset. But Samsung (their mobile division), on the other hand, deserves everything that is happening to them lately.
 
Elvergun said:
So, the point you were trying to make is that you hate and\or fear Apple?

I don't want a world with nothing but Apple. I hope Microsoft is able to be successful with their phone OS. I hope (not likely though) that Nokia and Blueberry don't ride off into the sunset. But Samsung (their mobile division), on the other hand, deserves everything that is happening to them lately.
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I agree that Microsoft deserves to be a stronger #3. I hope they can eventually grow to 10% marketshare.

I don't agree with what Blackberry is doing. They seem to be going Android (probably because they have no other choice). That is their fault for ignoring multi-touch for 5 years.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
That makes sense. So being #1 in urban China doesn't mean #1 in the entire country?
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It probably means both in this case.

- For Q1 2015, IDC says Apple sold one million more phones in China than Xiaomi.
- Gartner also said Apple sold slightly ahead of Xiaomi.
- Kantar said Apple was the best seller in urban China with 1/4 of such sales.

The upshot is that Apple almost certainly outsold everyone else in China during the first few months of the bigger iPhones.

As articles point out though, now China is flipping from being mostly first time buyers, into smartphone replacement mode. That usually bodes well for the incumbents in most countries, but China users historically will easily switch allegiance if something more attractive comes out. Good for them, because that makes everyone try harder.
 
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kdarling said:
As articles point out though, now China is flipping from being mostly first time buyers, into smartphone replacement mode. That usually bodes well for the incumbents in most countries, but China users historically will easily switch allegiance if something more attractive comes out. Good for them, because that makes everyone try harder.
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The Chinese consumers always wants the "best". Those who don't have a lot of money will chose Xiaomi...and those who have the money will pick up the best: an iPhone. I know Android fans don't want to admit this, but people around the world think that Apple is the best. Samsung is slowly being squeezed (Apple from the top and Xiaomi from the bottom) out of China. How long can they continue to hemorrhage money before they come up with a different strategy (besides changing release dates and making iPhone clones)?
 
Elvergun said:
The Chinese consumers always wants the "best". Those who don't have a lot of money will chose Xiaomi...and those who have the money will pick up the best: an iPhone. I know Android fans don't want to admit this, but people around the world think that Apple is the best. Samsung is slowly being squeezed (Apple from the top and Xiaomi from the bottom) out of China. How long can they continue to hemorrhage money before they come up with a different strategy (besides changing release dates and making iPhone clones)?
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People in China don't pick the iPhone because its the best, they pick it because it's a symbol of wealth and status. The Chinese culture is all about face (if you're Chinese, you know I mean).
 
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lazard said:
People in China don't pick the iPhone because its the best, they pick it because it's a symbol of wealth and status. The Chinese culture is all about face (if you're Chinese, you know I mean).
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Well, that is what I meant by the best. Apple and Android fans will always fight about which phone\OS is the best technically, but most people consider the iPhone as the best (because of price, image, fame, popularity...etc).
 
Samsung is in decline. There is no more "beating" anything. They ran out of cheap gimmicks and lets be honest, smartphones aren't exactly a new thing anymore.
 
MacCurry said:
Most likely the Note 5 will follow in the footsteps of the Galaxy S6 and if it does there will be a lot of upset customers and they may just go with the iPhone 6+s.

What Sammy is counting on is that the Note 5 hits retailers a little bit before the iPhone 6s/6+s and people walk in and see that the iPhone is sold out, but pick up the Note 5 instead. My guess is this strategy will give them a 10% increased sales bump.
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Or that the iPhone 6 is "old news". The problem with this, of course is people still think things like "Didn't the iPhone 6 just come out" even though it was released 10 months ago.
 
I'm more interested in the next Windows Phone, the rumoured Lumia 940XL over anything from the android world. If WP app availability picks up with Windows 10 I might be swayed there, otherwise I'll hang onto my iPhone.
Samsung have had their 3 strikes with me, nothing they do will draw me back now. No interest in Android also, probably thanks to touchwiz. It's not a bad OS, but I got sick of micro managing memory every time my S2, 4, and 5 started to slow down.
 
I bought note 4 couple months ago and then ended up buying iPhone 6 plus. Even though note 4 has 3GB RAM and faster processor, it still lags on certain games I play that are graphic intensive, for example mortal combat X. It also takes a while to load the game. iPhone on other hand has a slower processor and only 1 GB RAM, and when it comes to speed, it beats that phone like no tomorrow. No lag on gaming too and battery is really good. I can go about 2 days on no charge on moderate use.
 
Everyone whines and moans when Apple makes a phone with a camera that sticks out. Samsung's been doing it for years now and no one complains...
I'm looking forward to a size increase from my 5s when this year's batch of iPhones comes out, but I'm not sure I want a tablet on the side of my face when I make phone calls.
The samsung phone looks nice in the stock photos, but like many samsung products it'll likely be plastic-y and not feel solid.
2GB of RAM in an iPhone would be a blessing. We can do a lot with our 1 GB, but doubling that would be a nice memory increase and would potentially allow for more memory-hungry apps (like games with even more detailed textures) to run smoothly while also leaving room for background apps.
 
After using a Galaxy Note series phone going back to non-pen phones feel so primitive that I don't even bother installing all the art, note taking, PDF annotation, etc. apps. Also, anything smaller than 5.5" display is like the tiny inferior netbook of phone experience. Samsung hit the bulls-eye with the Galaxy Note series.
 
FFR said:
Yup. Looks like Samsung has even lost confidence in the line, electing to release a larger s6 edge just in case it doesn't do well.
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Your witnessing the death of a brand (the galaxy line). Samsung had their 15 minutes when they could market against the iPhone with a differing featureset. Now the S6 and iPhone 6 are barely indistinguishable except for Samsung's poor design and bloated operating Android system. There is no reason to get the S6 at this point unless you are an Android user and I'm sorry, but a fanboy. I don't for one second believe Google Now is better than Siri, and in no way does Android interface with other android devices and Windows/Mac computers like iOS does at this point with continuity.

Honestly I'm glad to see Samsung drop off. Always been an Apple user but I admired Nokia's Lumia series, the Nexus and the HTC One line much more than anything scamsung had to offer. As an aspiring designer Samsung has always offended me with their tactics and design philosophies.
 
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