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A vital statistic for the consumer.

Lol, so.... is "title of world's largest smartphone manufacturer" a vital statistic for the consumer??

You can't have it both ways!!
From a consumer point of view.... if the ninth largest manufacturer & seventeenth most profitable manufacturer, made the best "bang for your buck" phone; that would be the best choice for the budget conscious consumer.
When you're deciding between Kettle Chips & Doritos, do you first consider their profitability and revenue?? No. No you do not.
NONE of these metrics have a damn thing to do with the consumer. That's why they aren't mentioned in commercials; they're mentioned in earnings reports.
They matter to those invested in the stock foremost, and to a lesser degree... a small segment of the fanbase the company has built. You are picking and choosing which data is relevant. Ostensibly... profitability would be the most important. If you were an architect, would you rather do five projects in a year for $50k each, or one project for a cool million? Spread that answer out to every industry ever... Everybody wants to make money. Samsung makes a lot of money by selling a whole lot of phones. Apple makes substantially more, selling less phones. It's not difficult to tell which is the better situation.
 
Quantity or marketshare don't mean jack if your profits are falling..

As a consumer higher profit means you're being overcharged with low end specs. There's really no excuse for Apple not foregoing ~$3 profit per device to give it 2GB DRAM to improve the user experience and make it more future proof for future iOS upgrades that takes more resources.
 
Good to see samsung making a comeback. Sure i prefer iOS but competition is good!

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I hope everyone that cares about this is a shareholder because all this crap is irrelevant to the consumer

Well i find it funny that when it comes to Apple's earnings and numbers everyone and their mother seems to act like they own stock in the company but if its another companies numbers then its just dismissed....
 
Samsung needs to sell twice the volume to see similar results to Apple. A majority of their sales comes from low end smartphone sales. The percentage of Non Galaxy devices vs Galaxy devices is almost 60/40. Samsung knows this...
 
not surprised. the new Galaxy phones are sexy and very tempting

While they are nicely designed and have a more premium look than their predecessors there's really not much new. Smartphone design is a lot like car design has become, i.e. pretty homogenous. The OS is really the differentiating factor and a person either prefers iOS or Android or just doesn't give a crap as long as its a smartphone and its affordable.

While the new Galaxy phones are nice they are not outselling iPhones. Samsung has a huge amount of sales from its other smartphones. My neighbor just upgraded to a Galaxy 4 because it was cheap at Walmart. With subsidized plans for high end phones declining many folks won't be forking out $650-800 willy nilly. I still also see inducements such as "get a Galaxy Tablet free".

I am not saying that Samsung-Android is bad. I'm really saying that sales numbers mean little. It's really all about the Benjamins.
 
How does this refute anything I stated about CEmajr's comment? $460 is not even close to $650 price claimed in the quote. FYI, $299 is the price you were looking for, not $460.

Well allow me to be more politically correct for you. Samsung's ASP is around $180, Apple's is around $680. Pretty much the same idea as it makes painfully obvious where Samsung's shipments come from (low end, low to no-margin devices).

ASP = Average Sale Price

Also there is no such thing as a $299 iPhone.
 
I can't speak for the person you replied to, but for me, I would rather compare apples to apples. It doesn't make sense comparing low-end phone sales with what Apple sells. They just aren't the same types of devices.

And by the way, I don't think your question is sincere. It seems rather snarky to me! :rolleyes:

Agree, rather than the low-end offerings, comparisons amongst the high-end smartphones would be much more interesting.
 
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Seriously some of the responses are mad on here

Does anyone really care who is number one at all? does it make you feel ultra special? is your life better at all? why does anyone care.

And some of the crap some people come out with regards Samsung is as laughable as saying apple is doomed

I watched this video the other day and was suprised by how seriously big Samsung is as a whole, i suggest people take a look and educate your selves about the competition before spouting such hyperbole.

 
Well allow me to be more politically correct for you. Samsung's ASP is around $180, Apple's is around $680. Pretty much the same idea as it makes painfully obvious where Samsung's shipments come from (low end, low to no-margin devices).

ASP = Average Sale Price

Also there is no such thing as a $299 iPhone.

They can be had for $299 all day long. A courtesy Google search can confirm what I say is true. Besides, why would lie?

Politically correct? That doesn't mean what you think it does. Were you perhaps trying to say "specific"?:confused:
I never refuted your claim about where Samsung's sales come from. I stated what you wrote in that original quote was inaccurate. It was. The above maybe what you meant to say, but it wasn't what you said.
 
"The electronics giant's smartphone lineup is much larger than the iPhone lineup, with at least a half-dozen current-generation devices available compared to only a handful of iPhones"

half-dozen = 6
handful =5

So apparently there is not a huge difference between the two companie's lineups after all, LOL
 
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I hope everyone that cares about this is a shareholder because all this crap is irrelevant to the consumer
As I user I don't really care. As long as it isn't at the bottom and support is at risk of being dropped it doesn't matter to me if more of the people around me have the same or another phone.
 
A victory? How about just stating it largely irrelevant and/or that both companies seem to be successful in what they do. We HAVE to declare someone "victorious" ? Why?

My point is that it is a lot harder to sell a high end device than a low end one. Just comparing the number of units without considering the quality is like saying that Hyundai sells more cars than BMW.
 
And Strategy Analytics are getting their numbers from where exactly? Does Samsung report smartphone shipments?

They are making stuff up. In fact Samsung, unlike Apple, does not tell anyone how many smartphones they have actually sold. Not to mention their share of dumb phone vs. smartphone sales.

Lastly what Samsung does do is report their profits. And they went in one specific direction the last quarter: down.

How this Strategy Analytics junk get believed by Macrumors is beyond me.

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They can be had for $299 all day long. A courtesy Google search can confirm what I say is true. Besides, why would lie?
Only *subsidized* by carriers iPhones. Why do you think Apple has an iPhone ASP of $659?

Samsung is being slaughtered in the profit department right now.
 
They can be had for $299 all day long. A courtesy Google search can confirm what I say is true. Besides, why would lie?

Politically correct? That doesn't mean what you think it does. Were you perhaps trying to say "specific"?:confused:
I never refuted your claim about where Samsung's sales come from. I stated what you wrote in that original quote was inaccurate. It was. The above maybe what you meant to say, but it wasn't what you said.
Please show us a $299 iPhone that requires no service contract(subsidized).
Then we will all believe.
 
Only *subsidized* by carriers iPhones. Why do you think Apple has an iPhone ASP of $659?

If I had meant subsidized, I would have put that little caveat in there.;) As I quoted to Kierasplace, the 5C can be had for $299. For clarity, $299 unsubsidized, brand new - not refurbed, and readily available.

Google search could have saved you some keystrokes.;)

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Please show us a $299 iPhone that requires no service contract(subsidized).
Then we will all believe.

Happy?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/42381065?...82469112&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=99770627072&veh=sem

http://www.boostmobile.com/shop/phones/#/sort_data-position_asc/filter_apple/
 
Lol, so.... is "title of world's largest smartphone manufacturer" a vital statistic for the consumer??

You can't have it both ways!!
From a consumer point of view.... if the ninth largest manufacturer & seventeenth most profitable manufacturer, made the best "bang for your buck" phone; that would be the best choice for the budget conscious consumer.
When you're deciding between Kettle Chips & Doritos, do you first consider their profitability and revenue?? No. No you do not.
NONE of these metrics have a damn thing to do with the consumer. That's why they aren't mentioned in commercials; they're mentioned in earnings reports.
They matter to those invested in the stock foremost, and to a lesser degree... a small segment of the fanbase the company has built. You are picking and choosing which data is relevant. Ostensibly... profitability would be the most important. If you were an architect, would you rather do five projects in a year for $50k each, or one project for a cool million? Spread that answer out to every industry ever... Everybody wants to make money. Samsung makes a lot of money by selling a whole lot of phones. Apple makes substantially more, selling less phones. It's not difficult to tell which is the better situation.


Neither is of importance to the consumer, IMO. But they are very important to some people here.

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Please show us a $299 iPhone that requires no service contract(subsidized).
Then we will all believe.



You can buy an unlocked Nokia from Microsoft for $149.
 
Which company has most of the smartphone sector profits?
Apple by a huge margin.

And folks, that's the most important thing.
 
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