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Usually by wire transfer.

I think it is interesting that the basis for the ruling is "That was a wrong decision, the court ruled Friday, because it relied on issues that were never raised on appeal or on information that was beyond the trial record." The court isn't really saying that the points were valid or not but that the judge shouldn't have overturned the jury verdicts because his basis for overturning them wasn't entered into the record during the trial. Samsung should be very upset with their trial attorneys for not including everything in the original trial.

yep. that's the fundamental rule for appeals. A lot of ppl seem to think an appeal is a "do over" to try again, when the basis of an appeal has to be that the trial court made an error of law in their decision based upon the facts presented. You can't present new evidence on appeal.
 
If they keep suing each other and winning they'll both make out, because the fine counts as an expense.

As a note, I have a bunch of Android phones at work and the Android equivalent of slide to lock, at least in KitKat/Lollipop, sucks. Apple's was really a much better idea, which is why Google copied it. I actually miss it in iOS 10; the home button thing is still kind of weird. Of course, I've been unlocking my phone with a swipe since the beginning. Change is hard.
The Home button is reliable...
 
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How do you unlock an iPhone with iOS 10? You mash the home button repeatedly with intermixed momentary pauses in case it needs your fingerprint in one or more steps until you're finally in.

Ever since TouchID, on both of my iPhone and iPad its a single press with a fingerprint-approved finger. Or a click with anything and then present a fingerprint approved finger for unlock.

One click. This was true before iOS 10 and remains true after iOS 10.

I see that the option to use slide-to-unlock is gone, but I don't understand why it would be considered more elegant. So you wake the phone by clicking something, then switch to swiping across the screen, then place your thumb on the TouchID sensor. I don't understand how that's more elegant than just placing your thumb on the TouchID sensor and clicking once.

I don't have to click multiple times. If you do, something is wrong.
 
How do you unlock an iPhone before iOS 10? Elegant slide.
How do you unlock an iPhone with iOS 10? You mash the home button repeatedly with intermixed momentary pauses in case it needs your fingerprint in one or more steps until you're finally in.
That's funny because I haven't used the "elegant design" since the 5S was released. I've always used one button press to unlock with my fingerprint. It's quick and secure.
 
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So glad the German courts had sense and threw this patent out when Apple tried to use it! It should never have been awarded and it seems ONLY in America does it stand, altough I thought that this was a patent being disbanding by the US patent office?
 
Ever since TouchID, on both of my iPhone and iPad its a single press with a fingerprint-approved finger. Or a click with anything and then present a fingerprint approved finger for unlock.

One click. This was true before iOS 10 and remains true after iOS 10.

I see that the option to use slide-to-unlock is gone, but I don't understand why it would be considered more elegant. So you wake the phone by clicking something, then switch to swiping across the screen, then place your thumb on the TouchID sensor. I don't understand how that's more elegant than just placing your thumb on the TouchID sensor and clicking once.

I don't have to click multiple times. If you do, something is wrong.

I haven't used iOS 10, but if I had to make a guess why not having slide to unlock might be a big deal is that slide to unlock pretty much always works.

Touch ID, can sometimes be a PITA. When it works, it is great, but when it doesn't, like when my hand is wet/moist, sweaty, dirty, oil, and sometimes clean, it doesn't always work.
 
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I haven't used iOS 10, but if I had to make a guess why not having slide to unlock might be a big deal is that slide to unlock pretty much always works.

Touch ID, can sometimes be a PITA. When it works, it is great, but when it doesn't, like when my hand is wet/moist, sweaty, dirty, oil, and sometimes clean, it doesn't always work.
At which point, after clicking the home button and your fingerprint being rejected, the keypad pops up just like it would after a swipe and you enter your passcode. Is that not your experience? I honestly haven't swiped on the lock screen of my phone since 2013, so I'm having a hard time remembering exactly how the interactions differed.
 
Kinda. Imagine if the car was invented now ..... it would demonstrate how flawed the patent system is when something like a window or wheel and use cases behind it is owned by only one company.

Im just glad desktop and laptops designs were already matured before these patent wars began between major IT companies .
My point is that there isn't a "patent troll" anywhere to be found in this story...

There were major corporate patent battles over early automobiles as well.

And desktops, laptops and their software have been litigated too...
 
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At which point, after clicking the home button and your fingerprint being rejected, the keypad pops up just like it would after a swipe and you enter your passcode. Is that not your experience? I honestly haven't swiped on the lock screen of my phone since 2013, so I'm having a hard time remembering exactly how the interactions differed.

Yup, this is what happens.
Actually, this is a little off topic, but I find it annoying that the Touch ID to unlock stops working if you hit the home button a few times over a period of time just to check the time, or see if you got an email.
 
I haven't used iOS 10, but if I had to make a guess why not having slide to unlock might be a big deal is that slide to unlock pretty much always works.

Touch ID, can sometimes be a PITA. When it works, it is great, but when it doesn't, like when my hand is wet/moist, sweaty, dirty, oil, and sometimes clean, it doesn't always work.

I have the exact same problem as you with wet fingers, but I don't really understand how this is related.

If I did Slide-to-Unlock, I still had to do TouchID authentication anyway (or enter a passcode). So Slide-to-Unlock isn't some way around TouchID authentication not working.
 
I have the same problem as you with wet fingers, but I don't really understand your response. If I did Slide-to-Unlock, I still had to do TouchID authentication anyway (or enter a passcode). So Slide-to-Unlock isn't some way around TouchID authentication not working.

To unlock your phone it works. I don't have issues typing in a passcode if my hands are wet or moist, just the Touch ID.
 
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Yup, this is what happens.
Actually, this is a little off topic, but I find it annoying that the Touch ID to unlock stops working if you hit the home button a few times over a period of time just to check the time, or see if you got an email.
So I guess I'm saying I don't see how having a fingerprint rejected is any different or more time consuming than swiping to unlock. But again, it's been years.
 
I'm starting to feel that sympathy that I feel with Blackberry for Samsung...

Why? Samsung blatantly copied early iPhone designs which got them to where they are today. Eventually, they were a notorious enough competitor that they could make their own designs and brand. But the damage was already done. Those early ripoffs have cost Apple billions in lost revenue over the years.
 
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So I guess I'm saying I don't see how having a fingerprint rejected is any different or more time consuming than swiping to unlock. But again, it's been years.

It has to reject it a few times before going to the unlock screen.
 
I have always wondered how large amounts get transferred from company to company? Especially when they are in the billions. Anyone have an idea?

probably not in all nickels.. These are all electronically done these days.

Now, I thought the slide-to-unlock was invalidated by the USPTO, why is this still at the center of the patent dispute.
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Usually by wire transfer.

I think it is interesting that the basis for the ruling is "That was a wrong decision, the court ruled Friday, because it relied on issues that were never raised on appeal or on information that was beyond the trial record." The court isn't really saying that the points were valid or not but that the judge shouldn't have overturned the jury verdicts because his basis for overturning them wasn't entered into the record during the trial. Samsung should be very upset with their trial attorneys for not including everything in the original trial.

I haven't read the decision, but I'm willing to bet that they are issues that Judge Koh rejected to present to the jury because it would favor Samsung, as she had done in the first 2012 trial.
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Patent troll lawsuits breed more patent trolls.

All hail VirnetX? Yay, Apple could use the judgement to pay for 1/3 of Virnext's damage award.
 
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