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Apple sold 40 million iPhones last quarter and are coming to the end of the product cycle to the iPhone 6s. Hardly reason to despair.
Apple's issue is what amounts to basically a 3 year cycle for redesign. Why do they not yet have edge to edge OLED displays? Why have they hung onto 16 gb as base storage? 3D touch was nice but it's not enough.
That said, I think Apple the 10th year anniversary model next year will be lights out and spark enormous interest from it's extremely large customer base.
This is a marathon not a sprint. The iPhone was a transformative product. Unless someone else comes up with another transformative product Apple will do fine and is no danger of becoming the next Blackberry or Nokia. (It seems that someone earlier made that leap.)
Apple's issue is what amounts to basically a 3 year cycle for redesign. Why do they not yet have edge to edge OLED displays? Why have they hung onto 16 gb as base storage? 3D touch was nice but it's not enough.
That said, I think Apple the 10th year anniversary model next year will be lights out and spark enormous interest from it's extremely large customer base.
This is a marathon not a sprint. The iPhone was a transformative product. Unless someone else comes up with another transformative product Apple will do fine and is no danger of becoming the next Blackberry or Nokia. (It seems that someone earlier made that leap.)
The fact that the numbers are aligned right now is interesting, but not the point. the point is that numbering was something samsung started doing after Apple did it. Look at the list of samsung phone names from 2009 through 2013. They actually used roman numerals at first for the Galaxy S line and then switched to a simpler numbering system a la Apple - that is fact as shown below. Call me pedantic, but Samsung mostly had a naming convention that was based on descriptive words and then they switched. The only exception has been the Galaxy line and the galaxy S line which have always been the phones designed to compete most with Apple.
2013 April Samsung Galaxy Mega
- GT-I9150 (5.8")
- GT-I9152 (5.8", dual-SIM)
- GT-I9200 (6.3")
- GT-I9205 (6,3", LTE)
- GT-S6810P (NFC)
- GT-I9505 (LTE)
- GT-I9506 (LTE+)
Samsung Galaxy Young (GT-S6310)
- GT-S6312 (dual-SIM)
- GT-I9082 (dual-SIM)
Samsung Galaxy Pocket Plus (GT-S5301)
2012
November Samsung Galaxy S III Mini (GT-I8190)
October Samsung Galaxy Rugby Pro (SGH-I547)
- Samsung Galaxy Rugby LTE (SGH-i547C, Canadian market)
- SGH-I437
Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G
Samsung Galaxy Note II
- GT-N7100 (3G Model/International)
- GT-N7102 (dual-SIM)
- GT-N7105 (4G/LTE Model/International)
Samsung Galaxy Victory 4G LTE (SPH-L300)
Samsung Galaxy Pocket Duos (GT-S5302)
August Samsung Galaxy S Duos (GT-S7562)
- Galaxy S Duos (GT-S7568, China Mobile TD-SCDMA)
- Galaxy Trend (S7560M, single-SIM)
- Galaxy Trend II Duos (GT-S7572, different camera, 1.2 GHz dual-core CPU, Chinese Market)
May Samsung Galaxy Ch@t (GT-B5330)
Samsung Galaxy Appeal (SGH-I827)
Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9300)
- Galaxy S III (I9305, LTE)
- Galaxy S II Lite
March Samsung Galaxy Pocket (GT-S5300)
Samsung Galaxy Rugby Smart (SGH-i847)
February Samsung Galaxy Beam
Samsung Galaxy Y DUOS (GT-S6102)
Samsung Galaxy Mini 2 (GT-S6500)
Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 (GT-I8160)
- Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 x (GT-S7560M)
Samsung Galaxy Y Pro Duos (GT-B5510)
- GT-B5512(B)
November Samsung Galaxy Nexus (i9250)
October Samsung Galaxy Note
Samsung Stratosphere
August Samsung Galaxy Xcover (S5690)
Samsung Galaxy Precedent
Samsung Galaxy Y (GT-S5360)
Samsung Galaxy M
Samsung Galaxy W (I8150)
- Samsung Exhibit II 4G (SGH-T679)
Samsung Galaxy S Plus (GT-i9001)
June Samsung Galaxy Z
Samsung Exhibit 4G (SGH-T759)
May Samsung Galaxy S II (GT-I9100)
April Samsung Galaxy Neo
Samsung Galaxy Pro
Samsung Galaxy Prevail (SPH-M820)
March Samsung Galaxy Mini (GT-S5570)
Samsung Galaxy Gio (GT-S5660)
February Samsung Galaxy SL (GT-I9003)
Samsung Galaxy Fit (S5670)
Samsung Galaxy Ace (GT-S5830, GT-S5830i)
- Samsung Galaxy Cooper (GT-S5830, in Thailand)
October Samsung Galaxy 551
August Samsung Galaxy U
Samsung Galaxy 5
- Samsung Galaxy Europa
- Samsung Galaxy 550
- Samsung Galaxy Apollo
2009
November Samsung Galaxy Spica
- SM-G920A
- Samsung Galaxy Portal
- SM-G360BT
Not perfect but...
If you use an alternative Launcher, most of the bloat is parked.
You can also disable / uninstall most of this.
Without Samsung, Cook would not have any way to judge the quality of Apple's engineering suggestions. For example, Apple engineering, "lets do waterproof." Cook, " Well that must be a good idea because Samsung is doing it." This is exactly how an operations manager works; low risk, keep it simple, and make money. And it works, until it doesn't.
You can't lump the 5C and SE in there as they weren't Apple's flagship phones. Otherwise you'd have to include Samsung's ridiculous phone names like the J1 Ace, J2, J3 Pro, C7, S7 Active...and on and on it goes.
From 2010 onwards Apple has consistently labelled its phones numerically with a single 'S' suffix every other year, and started using the 'S' in 2009 with the 3GS. Whereas Samsung started using the 'S' suffix in 2010 right around the time they started to ape the iPhone. Seems pretty obvious why they chose the S to me...
We know how they "lavishly" copied from Apple right down to the flipping packaging, so it really isn't a push to suggest the above.
Yeah, you're being a little pedantic and conflating. Samsung still uses all those names for different product lines. That has nothing to do with the S series though. They also have the A, J, and Y series to go along with Primes, the Megas, and... all equally irrelevant to your argument. Heck, gimme a letter and I bet I can find a corresponding Sammy phone.
Good research job. Unfortunately, it's also proves my point more than yours. Should have gone back a little bit further. Samsung didn't need to copy the idea from Apple. They only needed to go back in their own history. They had, as far back as 2002, the S100, S200, S300, S400, S500. Believe it or not, they even had "i" phones before Apple. The i250, i500, i505, i530, and who could forget the i700 running Windows Pocket PC
. All of those phones were in existence before 2004. No one in their right mind would suggest Apple copied the "i" idea from Samsung. Same thought applies the other way around. The idea just doesn't hold water.As for switching from Roman numerals... Cuuuuuuban, we're reaching a bit there.
Apple stole the i from Cisco and had to pay them for it. sourceYeah, you're being a little pedantic and conflating. Samsung still uses all those names for different product lines. That has nothing to do with the S series though. They also have the A, J, and Y series to go along with Primes, the Megas, and... all equally irrelevant to your argument. Heck, gimme a letter and I bet I can find a corresponding Sammy phone.
Good research job. Unfortunately, it's also proves my point more than yours. Should have gone back a little bit further. Samsung didn't need to copy the idea from Apple. They only needed to go back in their own history. They had, as far back as 2002, the S100, S200, S300, S400, S500. Believe it or not, they even had "i" phones before Apple. The i250, i500, i505, i530, and who could forget the i700 running Windows Pocket PC
As for switching from Roman numerals... Cuuuuuuban, we're reaching a bit there.
So finally after so much agreement we are back to disagreeing. Yes I am being very narrow in my definitions, but nothing I have said is incorrect and I have backed it all up. In the end it matters very little what either of say, so I will let it go before this goes bad.
BTW, back to your avatar, why were you limited to those choices? You can always go back to different pictures of 69 mustangs or horses or all sorts of stuff. Why only superheros or villains? Of course you may retort why do I have an avatar of castro holding a missile (which would a fair call out). In any case, I like the option you chose.
Cisco had already used the actual term "iphone," not simply "i" that prefaced anything. So, wrong again. Even a broken clock is right twice a day--at least strive for that kind of record!
Mike
I like my iPhone because of the synchronization amongst all my other devices, and I think 95% of my family and friends have iPhones so it just makes it easier with iMessage. I do want to try out an S7, but I'd have to buy one outright and they are pretty expensive right now.
Yup, lets agree to disagree. I doubt it would ever go bad. You're an admitted fan of Apple, not one of the idiotic fanboys who can't pull their nose out of Apple's metaphorical butt. There's a huge difference.
As for the avatar. Don't really like horses. I don't use my 'stang as an avatar for fear of my reputation from my Mustang forum following me.
Our forum is... is... NSFW. We call each other every name in the book, not sparing mothers, wives, and any other thing we can find as a perceived weakness. That forum is neanderthal. Love it!! I like superheros. Contrary to what it would seem, Death from Darksiders 2 is also a hero. One of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Croft from Tomb Raider and Wonder Woman were an homage to powerful women. I have two daughters so I try in small and large ways to get them to see women can be just as powerful as any man. It's a daddy thing. The only other avatar I've considered lately has been cars I've painted in Forza 6. I'm not sure how they'd fit in the small circle. I almost want to use my Android painted Ford GT just to troll a little bit. But that would be something that ProTour69Stang would do, not 69Mustang
Who let you into the conversation anyway
So, wrong again. Even a broken clock is right twice a day--at least strive for that kind of record!
Mike
If you read the article I referenced, you would know that I was speaking about the iphone and iOS.
I was called pedantic, but you were being too black and white -- more than me. Now please go fix your clocks
Samsung phones are crap to me and I believe there are far better android phones deserving the success but alas not. I honestly hate the idea of Samsung being a leader so I hope Apple will step it up
Agreed to an extent. Samsung's phone hardware really is great. But Apple's Ecosystem works so well between all my Apple products and it's so seamless. But this Note 7 looks fun to play with.
So much fanboy-ism here. Samsung's hardware specs are astounding. Of course that's only half the story since software is incredibly important, but you can't think that all of Samsung is bad news.
They all make money through each other's successes. Of Apple makes money, some of that money goes to Samsung as suppliers. If Samsung succeeds, money will go to R&D that others will copy. If iPhones sellout, Google is still making money behind the curtain since more people are online for them to sell ads. In fact, people are using iOS but are likely one of the billion using Google Search, Chrome, Gmail, or Google Maps if they aren't on Android.
Being a homer is a waste of breath. They are all out to make money on us.
Being a homer is a waste of breath. They are all out to make money on us.
I really can't get my head around Android as an OS. I've got an android "gaming tablet" and find the OS so cheap and clunky. It'd be nice if, like the PC market, one could buy a device and install whatever OS they wanted on it. I don't mind iOS being so closed, but their hardware has seen better days.
Not fanboyism as apple isnt my preferred vendor. Its specs are great but if I ever was dim. Enough to use android again I would avoid Samsung as I find better hardware to be out there for android
Because Apple, looks at what others are doing/trying, and then copies what aspects work well (sell well)
If no one bought BIG phones made by Samsung etc, do we really think Apple would have ramped up in phone size?
Or course not. They copied what they saw was popular with customers.
If no one bought a Samsung with a curved screen, they flopped dead, do we really think Apple may be looking at bringing out some type of curved screen? Of course not. Apple will copy what they see is popular with customers.
This is natural for any business, And anyone here, in charge of product development for any company should do they same. If you are wishing to make a product that people will love to buy, you look at what people like/want, and take this on board for your product.
You can also innovate yourself of course, but you cannot ignore customers wants.
Funny thing is, when someone else does this, they are just copy cats with no idea according to many.