That's beside my point, which was that Apple certainly considered and experimented with the idea, they just don't make concept videos about their experiments like Samsung does.
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That's beside my point, which was that Apple certainly considered and experimented with the idea, they just don't make concept videos about their experiments like Samsung does.
So in the video, the guy with glasses is Apple and the guy on the right is Samsung or better. That's pretty much what's happening now
A 2x thick iPhone 6s would be much thicker than even the original iPhone (I checked). If that's your idea of innovation, by all means, go get a Samsung flip phone.
This Samsung phone would get anything else inside of ones pocket stuck within it--unless it was able to fully and completely close.
Except that the guy with glasses and all the extra "features" is essentially the role that Samsung has been playing in its marketing for the past several years. I don't even think that the fedora wearing, tech nerd could even be a direct analogy for Apple, because none of the tech he's using is even comparable to what Apple does with their devices. The guy is basically the junior higher who thinks he's cool, because he got some new tech from Radioshack. It's an archetype that almost doesn't exist anymore, which is another reason why this commercial is so ridiculously stupid.So in the video, the guy with glasses is Apple and the guy on the right is Samsung or better. That's pretty much what's happening now
Personally, I'd love to see an Apple concept video which shows what they'd like to do one day, or what they're working on.
You know, like back when Apple made that Knowledge Navigator personal assistant concept video.
Without such future looking info, all we know is what comes out for sale. And that's often driven by profit margins.
No, let me go slow here, my idea of innovation isn't making a phone thicker. Seems kind of obvious, but then again I guess not. But in regards to a 14mm phone, it wouldn't scare me in the least if it meant having a tablet sized screen. Better than always carrying around my tablet. If it doesn't suit you, then by all means don't buy it. Don't get me wrong, I doubt they will sell many on their first generation. But someone has to innovate, then the design will get refined and technology will become smaller and thinner. If everyone cried about the original iphone being 11.6" and didn't buy it, we wouldn't be where we are today.
There are a lot of what ifs right now. Why does it have to be double thick? It doesn't, many of those videos show a flexible screen which is very thin, attached to a larger block. They could make the bottom half of the clamshell all the internals and possibly make it somewhat thin, then the top half would only really be something to stiffen and protect the screen and might be very thin. Or maybe the bottom layer is all the electronics, and the top layer is the screen and the battery. There are so many possibilities, we just have to wait and see. I think we are past the point where Samsung would truly release junk, just look at their stellar product release the last few years.
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I'm not saying the idea of a phone-tablet is bad per se; I thought the Microsoft R&D notebook concept was really cool. But in practice it seems like an unworkable design. You're basically suggesting somehow they will miniaturize the internals so much that what takes up the whole area of the phone can be squeezed into one half of the phone, and the top half can be wafer-thin.
As for 'stellar product releases' from Samsung, you're on your own there.
I'm not saying the idea of a phone-tablet is bad per se; I thought the Microsoft R&D notebook concept was really cool. But in practice it seems like an unworkable design. You're basically suggesting somehow they will miniaturize the internals so much that what takes up the whole area of the phone can be squeezed into one half of the phone, and the top half can be wafer-thin.
As for 'stellar product releases' from Samsung, you're on your own there.
I don't think my premise is really that far out there. You can almost split a phone in half, with one half being the battery and screen, and the other half being the internals, not quite but not that far off either. I don't expect 7mm, but I still don't think 12mm would be a big deal for the ability to double as a tablet, with the bottom clamshell being 7mm and the top clamshell being 5mm, maybe less. I think naysayers will be quite surprised when whatever Samsung has up its sleeve is unveiled. As much as I absolutely love the design of today's iphones (minus the comical 2012 bezels though) I must say Samsung truly has introduced some stellar stuff. Don't take my word for it, look at sales, reviews, and even that recent customer satisfaction survey. But this shouldn't turn into another MR pissing match, especially with a product which has yet to be unveiled. I say we continue the discussion in 2017 when we see what is unveiled.
1. Yeah, I know it's old. I'm very curious to see what a modern design take on it is. That video is probably intentionally more of a demo of what could be done and not really a practical suggestion of what should be done with the tech.
2. I could place a call with voice commands. No screen needed. I could know that I had notifications with a simple light or something, no real screen needed. But if I actually want to read anything, including my notification snippets, then I am going to use the big screen. I am not going to torture myself on the small screen when I could use a bigger one that's already in my hand. And what if I started out using the smaller screen only to decide that no, my response is more involved than I planned, or the notification in fact needs me to go check out some data on a web page or app or something, and now I need to use the big screen to complete my task. That's a waste. I'm going to be efficient and always use the big screen for any task that could potentially lead to me needing it.
3. Any task which needs a screen, I'm going to use the big screen. Period. There is no reason for me to settle for less than the best experience while using my device. I generally feel like hybrid anything is a bad design. I'd rather my device excel at what it does. I already decided on the balance between compactness and screen size that works for me when I bought device X instead device Y.
So... you must see no need for a smartwatch, either?
Personally, I often find a small screen is enough to get a notification, check the weather or an incoming message, or an appointment.
Of course, in a hybrid device like this, the front screen could easily be just as big and useful as any regular smartphone. So there's no loss simply using that screen alone.
The extra benefit to me, is that when I want to surf the web, or give an off-the-cuff presentation, or show a bunch of friends a video, or if a field tech needs to fill out a form, or even if I want to use a tablet app to edit something... then absolutely having an internal large tablet screen would be handy as heck.
Sure, just like how we read predictions of amazing Apple Watch medical sensors every year, and are supposed to get excited all over again
Are those promises and promo videos from Apple or other parties? I don't recall Apple doing much officially in terms of promising that.
It's not a matter of surprises though. My point is that Apple doesn't make it a normal practice of hyping things until they can actually give us a shipping date. I think a lot of companies undermine their own best efforts with these impressive concept videos of technology they're nowhere near shipping. Microsoft used to do that so much it became hard to tell the fake from the real (still waiting for that amazing Courier device to ship.) It's the boy who cried wolf scenario, and I think it's a bad way to create hype.
Likewise, I don't recall Samsung promising flexible phones at any particular time. Timing has been rumors.
Oh poo on you
Did you dislike Apple's Knowledge Navigator personal assistant concept video because it wasn't anywhere near real? C'mon. Seriously, wasn't it super cool to get a peek at what Apple was thinking of doing?
I'd love for Apple to do more of that. I mean, it's not like they've been able to keep many secrets these days anyway.
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Heck, I'd say that nowadays it's in everyone's best interest to put out concept videos. If for no other reason than to provide PUBLIC prior art to fend off Apple invention claims in court.
Just think how differently that first California trial might've turned out, if Samsung had previously publicly shown some of their internal UI concepts which predated the iPhone... instead of having such prior art hidden from the jury.
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You are correct. None of us here have run a multibillion dollar company. All we here are just armchair quarterbacks. The only thing we have are opinions. By your own definition, what would you consider as a successful CEO.
Interesting, however the side view shows the screen at an angle when closed. How is this possible unless the battery tapers off to accommodate this. If this is what you are suggesting, what is supporting the rear of screen when in open position.
omg hahhahaha, I actually burst out laughing!
Apple have probably made more from their watch straps than Samsungs have made from their entire smart watch range.
That's what they said about any phone with over a "5 display five years ago.
This will change the phablet industry forever. Not enough foresight with some people here just like Apple's myopic short-sighted vision of playing catch up like finally adding water-resistance, wireless charging, deleting stock apps, and trying to look more like Android.
It is only innovation when Apple do it, right? Or revolutionary and magical. We probably would be stuck with "3.5 screens forever if Samsung wasn't trying to THINK DIFFERENT.