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Samsung to Supply Apple With OLED Display Panels Starting in 2017

Tycho24 said:
I would DEFINITELY bite (at pretty much any price) if they come up with a new form factor that is bezelless, with a usable curved screen(5.8" in a total package size that the 4.7" is today)
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Wtf lol, how are they going to do that?

They could cut it down to a 5.2" form factor while holding the same 5.5" display, or they could keep it the same, add a curved screen, and make it 5.8, which is what they'll likely do. They're not just going to shrink that to the 4.7" form factor; not only is that not possible but it's not what they've showed us they want to do. They're increasing features in a larger form factor, not shrinking the larger form factor to limit it further.
 
Tycho24 said:
I would actually HIGHLY recommend getting your info from displaymate... lol, it's a bit silly to say: "forum opinions are biased; so go get your info from.......... ANOTHER forum!"
I guess that's good advice if you're trying your best to speak in an echo chamber, but for ACTUAL knowledge; an impartial source is the best. So- a website devoted to display tech & the scientific QUANTITATIVE testing of such trumps "forum info" 10 times out of 10".
Here are some REAL numbers.... not my opinion- facts.
Since most smartphone use is NOT in the "perfect dark", but rather- in normal buildings under artificial light, or outside under natural light- more important than "what percentage of the rgb gamut is portrayed", when it comes to real-world usability & enjoyment are these three elements:
1)Luminance (aka screen brightness)
2)Screen Reflectance (as all screens reflect, regardless of underlying tech)
3)Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light (likely the ONE spec with the greatest impact on common use)
The S7 has a VERY nice OLED screen!
The Luminance measured at 440 nits, called by the experts at DisplayMate "comparable or higher than LCD screens of this size".
The Screen Reflectance was measured scientifically at 4.6% & hailed as "close to the lowest that we have ever measured for a smartphone".
And finally, the Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light ranged from 88-118, again standing out as "among the highest that we have ever measured for a smartphone".
So, I believe we can logically assume that OLED tech is solid & usable, and provides for a fairly pleasant user experience!!! =)
HOWEVER....
Let's look at the 9.7" Pro's results as well.
The Luminance measured at 511 nits "the highest of any mobile device tested"
Screen Reflectance is 1.7%, "a major enhancement that reduces the reflected light glare from the screen by a very impressive factor of 3 to 1".
& lastly, Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light was 301, "by far the highest that we have ever measured".

TLDR;
The S7 OLED screen is REALLY good, but the iPad Pro 9.7" still trumps it handily in three key usability areas.

It is unknown if these three areas will see parity by next year, when the assumed switch to OLED for Apple occurs.
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The iPad pro 9.7 has nothing on the screen of the S7,..THE S7 has everything I would want in a screen and I have literally played with both. First of all, the ppi is still low on the iPad pro which is definitely a large weakness. I even prefer the galaxy tab s2 screen over the iPad pro 9.7. Amoled is just much nicer too look at and the colors have better appeal.

There are times when the iPad pro 9.7 is set on full brightness and it looks a little washed out because of the low ppi compared to a S7 .. The galaxy tab s2 has the same ppi as the iPad pro 9.7 yet the amoled technology makes the screen look much better side by side without the wash out effect.
 
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jamesrick80 said:
The iPad pro 9.7 has nothing on the screen of the S7,..THE S7 has everything I would want in a screen and I have literally played with both. First of all, the ppi is still low on the iPad pro which is definitely a large weakness. I even prefer the galaxy tab s2 screen over the iPad pro 9.7. Amoled is just much nicer too look at and the colors have better appeal.

There are times when the iPad pro 9.7 is set on full brightness and it looks a little washed out because of the low ppi compared to a S7 .. The galaxy tab s2 has the same ppi as the iPad pro 9.7 yet the amoled technology makes the screen look much better side by side without the wash out effect.
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You are simply incorrect.
As has been scientifically proven.
So..... thanks for the cutesy opinion, but as my post (which I'm guessing you were too busy wanting to spew your inaccurate opinion to read?) states; I'm gonna go with facts, not fanboyism.
 
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Again, same comment regarding AMOLED displays.
Tycho24 said:
You are simply incorrect.
As has been scientifically proven.
So..... thanks for the cutesy opinion, but as my post (which I'm guessing you were too busy wanting to spew your inaccurate opinion to read?) states; I'm gonna go with facts, not fanboyism.
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So Displaymate finally became a credible source only after they praised the iPad Pro's display? ROFLMAO! so much hypocrisy from Apple fans, it's amusing. I don't know much in regards to displays and I honestly don't have neither devices. But according to Displaymate, the S7 has the "Best Performing Display". This is exactly what's on their page.

"It is by far the best performing mobile LCD display that we have ever tested, and it breaks many display performance records." This was mentioned in the iPad's review, they never claimed it was the "best display", unless you can prove otherwise.

Oh, and both reviews for both devices were done by the same person.
 
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Scorpion67 said:
Again, same comment regarding AMOLED displays.


So Displaymate finally became a credible source only after they praised the iPad Pro's display? ROFLMAO! so much hypocrisy from Apple fans, it's amusing. I don't know much in regards to displays and I honestly don't have neither devices. But according to Displaymate, the S7 has the "Best Performing Display". This is exactly what's on their page.

"It is by far the best performing mobile LCD display that we have ever tested, and it breaks many display performance records." This was mentioned in the iPad's review, they never claimed it was the "best display", unless you can prove otherwise.

Oh, and both reviews for both devices were done by the same person.
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Jesus Chachie Christ!
Lol, there are more than one thing about a screen. IF YOU READ MY POST... I outline the three most important & the S7 excels in all of them!!!! Just iPad Pro is even MORE superlative.
 
VanillaCracker said:
I don't see why people are getting hung up on OLED due to 3D touch. It's a small addition to existing display tech. 3D touch doesn't require an all new factory to be implemented, it's a small addition to any existing OLED or LCD screen. It's basically (thinking physically here) just another layer to the display. Huge manufacturers can easily adjust for that addition.
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I disagree, based on the information I've read online about how AMOLED touchscreens work. Adding 3D Touch-like functionality to an AMOLED touchscreen could be a pretty expensive proposition, and that's on top of having to manufacture all those 4.7" and 5.5" AMOLED panels on a far larger scale than currently. I do think the "iPhone 7s" models will switch to AMOLED touchscreen when retail sales starts in September 2017.
 
Tycho24 said:
You are simply incorrect.
As has been scientifically proven.
So..... thanks for the cutesy opinion, but as my post (which I'm guessing you were too busy wanting to spew your inaccurate opinion to read?) states; I'm gonna go with facts, not fanboyism.
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I'm not incorrect in regards to the ppi and overall screen resolution. Also, amoled has infinite blacks...no one has stated that the iPad pro beats any of today's next generation amoled screens in any review so you go try to find a review that states so and you wont. The iPad pro 9.7 was not a significant screen upgrade, apple kept the same resolution and ppi and just added a higher color gamut. Overall, you cannot tell much of a difference between iPad air 2 and the pro 9.7 inch. They are pretty much similar displays.

Displaymate calls the S7 display the best performing "display" ever....so you go have a field day with that in mind. Also, scientific and real world usage are two totally different things.....so have fun with all of your scientific judgmental notions.
 
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jamesrick80 said:
I'm not incorrect in regards to the ppi and overall screen resolution. Also, amoled has infinite blacks...no one has stated that the iPad pro beats any of today's next generation amoled screens in any review so you go try to find a review that states so and you wont. The iPad pro 9.7 was not a significant screen upgrade, apple kept the same resolution and ppi and just added a higher color gamut. Overall, you cannot tell much of a difference between iPad air 2 and the pro 9.7 inch. They are pretty much similar displays.

Displaymate calls the S7 display the best display ever....so you go have a field day with that in mind. Also, scientific and real world usage are two totally different things.....so have fun with all of your scientific judgmental notions.
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Gd, how are you this confused??!!
The real world use enjoyment does NOT hinge on "wow; I have 2% blacker blacks than you!!!", however- it DOES center on "wow, I can see this screen PERFECTLY in the bright noonday sun! I've never experienced that before in any tablet or phone or laptop I've ever owned... simply AMAZING!"
So..... go read how display experts are saying that now that pretty much ALL high end screens are virtually identical in color "how they look", the next BIG battle is: making them viewable nicely in bright light, not pitch black- since that in no way is "real world".
 
Tycho24 said:
Gd, how are you this confused??!!
The real world use enjoyment does NOT hinge on "wow; I have 2% blacker blacks than you!!!", however- it DOES center on "wow, I can see this screen PERFECTLY in the bright noonday sun! I've never experienced that before in any tablet or phone or laptop I've ever owned... simply AMAZING!"
So..... go read how display experts are saying that now that pretty much ALL high end screens are virtually identical in color "how they look", the next BIG battle is: making them viewable nicely in bright light, not pitch black- since that in no way is "real world".
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My issue with you is that you are trying to make the iPad pro 9.7 the best display ever when in reality it's not. You cannot prove that it's better than amoled because quite frankly it's not otherwise displaymate would have stated so. It's a reason why apple is moving to OLED.

Also being viewable in bright light is not a Big deal to everyone. I'm someone who would never sit out in the sun with my iPad pro or other tablets. My phone is a different story. Also, most samsung devices are excellent in bright light just by placing it on automatic brightness which
can go well beyond the nits of other devices. The S7 can reach 855 nits maximum brightness (another reason why it's the best display ever)

Please read...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...laxy-s7-has-the-best-smartphone-display-ever/

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm

Many more areas where S7 supercedes the iPad pro 9.7 display...it's no contest truly

The Galaxy S7 matches or breaks new records in Smartphone display performance for:

Highest Absolute Color Accuracy (1.5 JNCD), Highest Peak Brightness (855 nits), Highest Contrast Rating in Ambient Light (186), Highest Screen Resolution (2560x1440), Highest (infinite) Contrast Ratio, and Smallest Brightness Variation with Viewing Angle (28 percent)

So being excellent in Ambient light is not the greatest aspect of a display.......

And for the tab S2:

""Tab S2 is one example of why there's more to making a great display than just focusing on resolution. It even looks better than some native 4K displays I've seen." (Haven't seen a ipad that beats a 4K display ......)

http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/18/samsung-galaxy-tab-s2-review/
 
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jamesrick80 said:
My issue with you is that you are trying to make the iPad pro 9.7 the best display ever when in reality it's not. You cannot prove that it's better than amoled because quite frankly it's not otherwise displaymate would have stated so. It's a reason why apple is moving to OLED.

Also being viewable in bright light is not a Big deal to everyone. I'm someone who would never sit out in the sun with my iPad pro or other tablets. My phone is a different story. Also, most samsung devices are excellent in bright light just by placing it on automatic brightness which
can go well beyond the nits of other devices. The S7 can reach 855 nits maximum brightness (another reason why it's the best display ever)

Please read...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...laxy-s7-has-the-best-smartphone-display-ever/

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm

Many more areas where S7 supercedes the iPad pro 9.7 display...it's no contest truly

The Galaxy S7 matches or breaks new records in Smartphone display performance for:

Highest Absolute Color Accuracy (1.5 JNCD), Highest Peak Brightness (855 nits), Highest Contrast Rating in Ambient Light (186), Highest Screen Resolution (2560x1440), Highest (infinite) Contrast Ratio, and Smallest Brightness Variation with Viewing Angle (28 percent)

So being excellent in Ambient light is not the greatest aspect of a display.......

And for the tab S2:

""Tab S2 is one example of why there's more to making a great display than just focusing on resolution. It even looks better than some native 4K displays I've seen." (Haven't seen a ipad that beats a 4K display ......)

http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/18/samsung-galaxy-tab-s2-review/
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I've actually NEVER used the term "better" screen because that is the height of ignorance!
As I repeat- there are more than one screen spec. There is NOT a display that is higher on them all- so there is no "better" display!!!!
However, I identified the three MOST significant specs for consumer use- as it is typically used outside under natural light, OR inside under artificial light- but rarely in the pitch black.
Feel free to reread my post comparing those 3 specs! :D
 
Tycho24 said:
I've actually NEVER used the term "better" screen because that is the height of ignorance!
As I repeat- there are more than one screen spec. There is NOT a display that is higher on them all- so there is no "better" display!!!!
However, I identified the three MOST significant specs for consumer use- as it is typically used outside under natural light, OR inside under artificial light- but rarely in the pitch black.
Feel free to reread my post comparing those 3 specs! :D
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I don't think those are the three most significant aspects.......who says what's most significant. ..I'm sure you are not the ruler of SIGNIFICANCE.....
 
I'm not convinced this is a good idea, since as far as I know oversaturation and blue decay are not solved problems for OLED, and the workarounds used for blue, like misshapen pixels, distort images.
 
ghost187 said:
Isn't iPhone 7 the 10th iPhone? I'd say 10th device is more significant than 10th year. Plus, the release will most likely be September so it won't be released on the exact date or month of the original iPhone.
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A lot of people think that it is the 10th year that matter and the release of that iPhone will be in June 2017.
 
PBRsg said:
A lot of people think that it is the 10th year that matter and the release of that iPhone will be in June 2017.
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But do you really think they will break a cycle that worked so well for them for so long just to have a 10th anniversary celebration? This will cause a one time spike in iPhone sales but than people will expect a new iPhone design every year. Over 2/3 of their revenue comes from the iPhone, and probably over 90% of their profits come from the iPhone as well. This is not a game, and the consequences would be too devastating if it backfires.

Honestly, I think they may have a new color or something, that's it. It is just a 10th Anniversary. iPhone 7 will be the 10th iPhone, to me that's more significant.
 
ghost187 said:
But do you really think they will break a cycle that worked so well for them for so long just to have a 10th anniversary celebration? This will cause a one time spike in iPhone sales but than people will expect a new iPhone design every year. Over 2/3 of their revenue comes from the iPhone, and probably over 90% of their profits come from the iPhone as well. This is not a game, and the consequences would be too devastating if it backfires.

Honestly, I think they may have a new color or something, that's it. It is just a 10th Anniversary. iPhone 7 will be the 10th iPhone, to me that's more significant.
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They're not doing it because they want to show off for the 10 year anniversary. They're going to have major changes available in 2017, so in order to stay in line with what they usually do, they need to throw off the cycle for 1 year to allow that to happen. The iPhone 7 is the stopgap phone.

The iPhone 8 (2017) will have a redesigned (glass) case, wireless charging, and AMOLED screens.
 
VanillaCracker said:
They're not doing it because they want to show off for the 10 year anniversary. They're going to have major changes available in 2017, so in order to stay in line with what they usually do, they need to throw off the cycle for 1 year to allow that to happen. The iPhone 7 is the stopgap phone.

The iPhone 8 (2017) will have a redesigned (glass) case, wireless charging, and AMOLED screens.
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These rumors have been too persistent, I guess I might be wrong.
 
VanillaCracker said:
They're not doing it because they want to show off for the 10 year anniversary. They're going to have major changes available in 2017, so in order to stay in line with what they usually do, they need to throw off the cycle for 1 year to allow that to happen. The iPhone 7 is the stopgap phone.

The iPhone 8 (2017) will have a redesigned (glass) case, wireless charging, and AMOLED screens.
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So we have to wait another two years to be what the Samsung phones have now...
 
admob71 said:
Actually more like what they had last year..

What is the classic phrase rolled out on here, they wait to be able to do it right. Lol

Sure, cos the current wireless superfast charging on the s6/s7 is pants isn't it.
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The air dock appears to work very well on the S7/S7 edge
 
admob71 said:
Actually more like what they had last year..

What is the classic phrase rolled out on here, they wait to be able to do it right. Lol

Sure, cos the current wireless superfast charging on the s6/s7 is pants isn't it.
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In all fairness, we don't know whether apple will be doing something special with wireless charging or not. My assumption would be that they will not (because apple seems to be getting lazy), which means I still am not in the market for wireless charging, because it requires a dock either way. If however, they do it differently, then it would indeed be 'wait until they are able to do it right'.
 
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VanillaCracker said:
In all fairness, we don't know whether apple will be doing something special with wireless charging or not. My assumption would be that they will not (because apple seems to be getting lazy), which means I still am not in the market for wireless charging, because it requires a dock either way. If however, they do it differently, then it would indeed be 'wait until they are able to do it right'.
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Good luck with not having a charging plate sat on a desk . Mine is invaluable, make a call, put it down, it charges, rinse and repeat. It's only the anti Samsung brigade who have an issue with a charging matt. Do you really think that you can plug some thing in a wall and it will charge anything in the room. Electric pulsing through the air. Never to be done. If you want your nuts fried. Go for it.
 
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