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Samsung to Supply Apple With OLED Display Panels Starting in 2017

Recognition said:
But doesn't the screen already know precisely which part of the screen is being pressed as you are touching it after all...?
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Not the Watch display as far as I know.
And since the screen is so tiny force pressing on a specific point is not really necessary at the moment, so it is not a big deal.
 
it looks like apple is just making their version of the Samsung S7. Now if they could make iOS more than just a few screens to hold icons I might be interested in it.
 
recoil80 said:
Not the Watch display as far as I know.
And since the screen is so tiny force pressing on a specific point is not really necessary at the moment, so it is not a big deal.
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Yea I gather that. My point was with regards to force touching on an iPhone screen.
 
vertsix said:
Apple fanboys now: "OLED is a gimmick! It's so inefficient! The lifetime sucks! LCD is better! Accurate colors are important!"

Apple fanboys in 2017: "OLED is amazing! It's soooo much better! The colors are amazing! The contrasts are amazing! Apple is innovating once again!"
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fanboy
1. A person who is completely loyal to a game or company reguardless of if they suck or not.
2. A pathetic insult often used by fanboys themselves to try and put down people who don't like whatever it is they like.

I will admit to #1 if you admit to #2
 
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Col4bin said:
Been using a Nexus 6 for almost two years now that has a Samsung Super AMOLED display. Not sure how this type of screen will differ from what will be used in an upcoming iPhone, but happy to report that I've had absolutely zero issues or burn-in with my Nexus 6. Plus the Nexus screen itself blows away the screen on my iPhone 6 Plus.
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From what I've been reading, to heck with the iPhone 7 apparently. Seems more and more like this Fall's model should be called the iPhone 6SS.
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Disagree. OLED colors tend to be brighter, richer and the blacks blacker than what iPhone's current LCD screen tech can produce. Just do a side by side comparison. Assuming that any burn-in issues are dealt with, the move to OLED or AMOLED will be a great move for Apple. (And hopefully rid itself of the need for those giant eyesore bezels.)
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Most likely iPhone 6se
 
Since oled won't come before the 7s, for the Iphone 7 they'll likely use the same display technology as in the 9.7 inch ipad pro according to displaymate. It has better contrast and colour accuracy than any other previous lcd screen. It's probably not as good as the galaxy s7 oled screen but it comes pretty close.
 
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vertsix said:
Apple fanboys now: "OLED is a gimmick! It's so inefficient! The lifetime sucks! LCD is better! Accurate colors are important!"

Apple fanboys in 2017: "OLED is amazing! It's soooo much better! The colors are amazing! The contrasts are amazing! Apple is innovating once again!"
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I am a photographer and rely on a good screen and color accuracy. My iPad Pro looks incredible. Almost better than my iMac 5K. My iPhone 6s+ is great too. Greys and whites are neutral and natural looking. Try comparing a Samsung and iPhone 6s+ side by side and Samsung's skin tones look greenish and too saturated. Not natural. It all depends on what u need the phone for. My needs are specific but if I have to judge the quality of OLED by looking at my Apple Watch, the OLED iPhone will suck. My opinion.
[doublepost=1460742374][/doublepost]I am a photographer and rely on a good screen and color accuracy. My iPad Pro looks incredible. Almost better than my iMac 5K. My iPhone 6s+ is great too. Greys and whites are neutral and natural looking. Try comparing a Samsung and iPhone 6s+ side by side and Samsung's skin tones look greenish and too saturated. Not natural. It all depends on what u need the phone for. My needs are specific but if I have to judge the quality of OLED by looking at my Apple Watch, the OLED iPhone will suck. My opinion.
 
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ppdix said:
I am a photographer and rely on a good screen and color accuracy. My iPad Pro looks incredible. Almost better than my iMac 5K. My iPhone 6s+ is great too. Greys and whites are neutral and natural looking. Try comparing a Samsung and iPhone 6s+ side by side and Samsung's skin tones look greenish and too saturated. Not natural. It all depends on what u need the phone for. My needs are specific but if I have to judge the quality of OLED by looking at my Apple Watch, the OLED iPhone will suck. My opinion.
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Point, set, match.

OLED color rendering just looks so "off" to me too.

Not having that makes me cringe. The best OLED displays out there still look "off" and what I call "glittery". It's just not appealing, at all.


Besides, any power saving is undone by the fact that almost everything in iOS is spewing white more often than not.
 
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ppdix said:
I am a photographer and rely on a good screen and color accuracy. My iPad Pro looks incredible. Almost better than my iMac 5K. My iPhone 6s+ is great too. Greys and whites are neutral and natural looking. Try comparing a Samsung and iPhone 6s+ side by side and Samsung's skin tones look greenish and too saturated. Not natural. It all depends on what u need the phone for. My needs are specific but if I have to judge the quality of OLED by looking at my Apple Watch, the OLED iPhone will suck. My opinion.
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Did you turn on "Standard" or "Basic" on the samsung before comparing side by side?
 
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AchillesLastStand said:
10 year anniversary for iPhone I guess calls for something special
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<ive> eureka, i've got it.... thinner iphones is what we need!

Im a huge fan of OLED screens, especially LG screens; my lg oled tv sensational, not only 4k, but with HDR manifesting in a higher colour gamut, providing rich, immersive pictures, ashame about the dearth of content. Furthermore, I have been quite impressed with the more recent generation of oled screens on phones and tab. The lack of oled is an additional contributory factor in my decision in skipping this year's refresh of my iphone and ipad, I'm perfectly content with my ipad air 2 and my iphone 6s+.
 
iapplelove said:
Wish it read for 2016. My loved 6 plus will be replaced this fall.
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You may be replacing it too soon.
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mactactic said:
Looks like a pass on the iPhone 7 in 2016 . I think Apple gets rid of the S moniker so
get ready for the " iPhone Pro "
in 2017 !
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It would make sense since Apple is apparently in the process of getting rid of the 'Air' moniker as well. Time for a fresh start when it comes to model designations. The 's' designation is probably ready to be retired given the negative vibes/responses many people give it because in their heads they're expecting basically the "same" phone. A redesigned anniversary iPhone with OLED/mLED would be perfect for me next year.
 
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recoil80 said:
Not the Watch display as far as I know.
And since the screen is so tiny force pressing on a specific point is not really necessary at the moment, so it is not a big deal.
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It's capacitive, isn't it? If so, it knows where your finger is, and separately, it knows how much pressure you're applying. The data should be there, whether or not the API exposes it.
 
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Some people claim making OLED touchscreens for cellphones are now cheap, but I think that applies for the quantities Samsung and LG make for their own high-end models like the Samsung Galaxy S 7 series or the LG G5.

For Apple, it means manufacturing on a scale far larger than now and also must be compatible with 3D Touch functionality, which means right now there isn't enough production capacity for Apple's needs (hence the reason for Samsung and LG opening new AMOLED production facilities in 2017). I wouldn't be surprised the iPhone 7 models coming in 2017 will switch to AMOLED panels, manufactured by Samsung, LG and Sharp.
 
SactoGuy18 said:
Some people claim making OLED touchscreens for cellphones are now cheap, but I think that applies for the quantities Samsung and LG make for their own high-end models like the Samsung Galaxy S 7 series or the LG G5.

For Apple, it means manufacturing on a scale far larger than now and also must be compatible with 3D Touch functionality, which means right now there isn't enough production capacity for Apple's needs (hence the reason for Samsung and LG opening new AMOLED production facilities in 2017). I wouldn't be surprised the iPhone 7 models coming in 2017 will switch to AMOLED panels, manufactured by Samsung, LG and Sharp.
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I don't see why people are getting hung up on OLED due to 3D touch. It's a small addition to existing display tech. 3D touch doesn't require an all new factory to be implemented, it's a small addition to any existing OLED or LCD screen. It's basically (thinking physically here) just another layer to the display. Huge manufacturers can easily adjust for that addition.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Read about them on a non Apple forum or after Apple starts using them and you probably won't get that impression.
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I would actually HIGHLY recommend getting your info from displaymate... lol, it's a bit silly to say: "forum opinions are biased; so go get your info from.......... ANOTHER forum!"
I guess that's good advice if you're trying your best to speak in an echo chamber, but for ACTUAL knowledge; an impartial source is the best. So- a website devoted to display tech & the scientific QUANTITATIVE testing of such trumps "forum info" 10 times out of 10".
Here are some REAL numbers.... not my opinion- facts.
Since most smartphone use is NOT in the "perfect dark", but rather- in normal buildings under artificial light, or outside under natural light- more important than "what percentage of the rgb gamut is portrayed", when it comes to real-world usability & enjoyment are these three elements:
1)Luminance (aka screen brightness)
2)Screen Reflectance (as all screens reflect, regardless of underlying tech)
3)Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light (likely the ONE spec with the greatest impact on common use)
The S7 has a VERY nice OLED screen!
The Luminance measured at 440 nits, called by the experts at DisplayMate "comparable or higher than LCD screens of this size".
The Screen Reflectance was measured scientifically at 4.6% & hailed as "close to the lowest that we have ever measured for a smartphone".
And finally, the Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light ranged from 88-118, again standing out as "among the highest that we have ever measured for a smartphone".
So, I believe we can logically assume that OLED tech is solid & usable, and provides for a fairly pleasant user experience!!! =)
HOWEVER....
Let's look at the 9.7" Pro's results as well.
The Luminance measured at 511 nits "the highest of any mobile device tested"
Screen Reflectance is 1.7%, "a major enhancement that reduces the reflected light glare from the screen by a very impressive factor of 3 to 1".
& lastly, Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light was 301, "by far the highest that we have ever measured".

TLDR;
The S7 OLED screen is REALLY good, but the iPad Pro 9.7" still trumps it handily in three key usability areas.

It is unknown if these three areas will see parity by next year, when the assumed switch to OLED for Apple occurs.
 
Tycho24 said:
I would actually HIGHLY recommend getting your info from displaymate... lol, it's a bit silly to say: "forum opinions are biased; so go get your info from.......... ANOTHER forum!"
I guess that's good advice if you're trying your best to speak in an echo chamber, but for ACTUAL knowledge; an impartial source is the best. So- a website devoted to display tech & the scientific QUANTITATIVE testing of such trumps "forum info" 10 times out of 10".
Here are some REAL numbers.... not my opinion- facts.
Since most smartphone use is NOT in the "perfect dark", but rather- in normal buildings under artificial light, or outside under natural light- more important than "what percentage of the rgb gamut is portrayed", when it comes to real-world usability & enjoyment are these three elements:
1)Luminance (aka screen brightness)
2)Screen Reflectance (as all screens reflect, regardless of underlying tech)
3)Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light (likely the ONE spec with the greatest impact on common use)
The S7 has a VERY nice OLED screen!
The Luminance measured at 440 nits, called by the experts at DisplayMate "comparable or higher than LCD screens of this size".
The Screen Reflectance was measured scientifically at 4.6% & hailed as "close to the lowest that we have ever measured for a smartphone".
And finally, the Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light ranged from 88-118, again standing out as "among the highest that we have ever measured for a smartphone".
So, I believe we can logically assume that OLED tech is solid & usable, and provides for a fairly pleasant user experience!!! =)
HOWEVER....
Let's look at the 9.7" Pro's results as well.
The Luminance measured at 511 nits "the highest of any mobile device tested"
Screen Reflectance is 1.7%, "a major enhancement that reduces the reflected light glare from the screen by a very impressive factor of 3 to 1".
& lastly, Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light was 301, "by far the highest that we have ever measured".

TLDR;
The S7 OLED screen is REALLY good, but the iPad Pro 9.7" still trumps it handily in three key usability areas.

It is unknown if these three areas will see parity by next year, when the assumed switch to OLED for Apple occurs.
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Some users here argue that DisplayMate is biased since they said the S7 had a better screen than the 6S.
 
Tycho24 said:
I would actually HIGHLY recommend getting your info from displaymate... lol, it's a bit silly to say: "forum opinions are biased; so go get your info from.......... ANOTHER forum!"
I guess that's good advice if you're trying your best to speak in an echo chamber, but for ACTUAL knowledge; an impartial source is the best. So- a website devoted to display tech & the scientific QUANTITATIVE testing of such trumps "forum info" 10 times out of 10".
Here are some REAL numbers.... not my opinion- facts.
Since most smartphone use is NOT in the "perfect dark", but rather- in normal buildings under artificial light, or outside under natural light- more important than "what percentage of the rgb gamut is portrayed", when it comes to real-world usability & enjoyment are these three elements:
1)Luminance (aka screen brightness)
2)Screen Reflectance (as all screens reflect, regardless of underlying tech)
3)Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light (likely the ONE spec with the greatest impact on common use)
The S7 has a VERY nice OLED screen!
The Luminance measured at 440 nits, called by the experts at DisplayMate "comparable or higher than LCD screens of this size".
The Screen Reflectance was measured scientifically at 4.6% & hailed as "close to the lowest that we have ever measured for a smartphone".
And finally, the Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light ranged from 88-118, again standing out as "among the highest that we have ever measured for a smartphone".
So, I believe we can logically assume that OLED tech is solid & usable, and provides for a fairly pleasant user experience!!! =)
HOWEVER....
Let's look at the 9.7" Pro's results as well.
The Luminance measured at 511 nits "the highest of any mobile device tested"
Screen Reflectance is 1.7%, "a major enhancement that reduces the reflected light glare from the screen by a very impressive factor of 3 to 1".
& lastly, Contrast Ratio for High Ambient Light was 301, "by far the highest that we have ever measured".

TLDR;
The S7 OLED screen is REALLY good, but the iPad Pro 9.7" still trumps it handily in three key usability areas.

It is unknown if these three areas will see parity by next year, when the assumed switch to OLED for Apple occurs.
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I wouldn't be comparing the iPad pro to a phone. Just because a larger screen can utilize tech to make the screen better doesn't mean that a smaller screen can manage the same feat. The problem with LCD's producing higher nits usually equates to washed out blacks/ darker colors, not to mention light bleed issues.... Something that has plagued Apple displays for years.
 
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Lloydbm41 said:
I wouldn't be comparing the iPad pro to a phone. Just because a larger screen can utilize tech to make the screen better doesn't mean that a smaller screen can manage the same feat. The problem with LCD's producing higher nits usually equates to washed out blacks/ darker colors, not to mention light bleed issues.... Something that has plagued Apple displays for years.
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Yeah.... I agree that there are some advantages to larger screen (higher brightness possible) & some advantages to smaller screen (3D Touch possible)- I hope we see a marrying of all the advantages w/ NONE of the downfalls by the end of next year, if this tech is going to make its way into an "iPhone Pro". I would DEFINITELY bite (at pretty much any price) if they come up with a new form factor that is bezelless, with a usable curved screen(5.8" in a total package size that the 4.7" is today), pro level RAM, support for a new "Apple Pencil Mini ($79), anywhere on screen TouchID, and of course the wireless charging tech & whatnot that the 7 is getting this fall.
 
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