Samsung to surpass Apple in Smartphone Sales

[aohus]

Samsung is about to overtake Apple as the leading smartphone vendor...

until iPhone 5 comes out in late October. Seriously, I'd buy Apple stock. I think Apple is going to make tons of $$$ on this refresh.

Sent from my Droid X.

 

[Tarzanman]

Poor nokia.

-EDIT-
...and this is the real reason why Apple is suing Samsung. They don't want to have to compete

 

[Kyotoma]

Uhh. You're missing Q2 2011 Sales report. Apple is clearly still in the lead.

 

[aohus]

Uhh. You're missing Q2 2011 Sales report. Apple is clearly still in the lead.

actually, not quite. Samsung was not allowed to report how many smartphones were sold in Q2, due to the ongoing lawsuit with Apple.

So we don't actually know how many Samsung phones were sold in Q2. Lets remember that Samsung has multiple smartphone models, and the Galaxy S II is a runaway hit both in Asia and Europe.

 

[Kyotoma]

actually, not quite. Samsung was not allowed to report how many smartphones were sold in Q2, due to the ongoing lawsuit with Apple.

So we don't actually know how many Samsung phones were sold in Q2. Lets remember that Samsung has multiple smartphone models, and the Galaxy S II is a runaway hit both in Asia and Europe.

True, I forgot about that.

 

[kdarling]

Strategy Analytics is the firm that had earlier predicted Samsung latest smartphone sales to be 18-21 million, the upper number of which would've bypassed Apple's 20.3 million.

They are also the source of the final Q2 chart which everyone is quoting from, that says 19.2 million for Samsung.

Their number is considered reliable, as Samsung uses Strategy Analytics charts in their earnings reports.

 

[hcho3]

While it is important to look at how many units you sell, it also matters how much profit you make from each devices. Apple takes 2/3 of Mobile market profits.

Apple looks like it has won the HTC lawsuit. HTC has to make a deal with Apple or they will face a ban from US market.

Samsung isn't likely going to be able to win the lawsuit either. Samsung is clearly a biggest copy cat with apple iOS devices.

Samsung also released their Galaxy S2 and waves of other smart phones so far this year. What did apple release this year? Verizon iPhone 4 and white iphone 4...

Yet, they are still in the lead.

Also, if you pay attention to how Samsung Electronic is performing... (includes mobile, Tv, laptop, etc)
I am still disappointed with their numbers.

As an EX samsung investor and Current apple investor, I am long Apple and I am moving away from Samsung.

Apple will release iPhone 5 this fall and iPad 3 next year. Then they will release LTE iphone...

Samsung is clearly no match for apple.

 

[itsmemuffins]

Pffft, Samsung

Yesterdays news and tomorrow's garbage .

 

[creativedogmedia]

Does this take into consideration how many returns they may have had?

 

[Savor]

Poor nokia.

Not exactly.

One of the pioneers which holds 10,000 patents and has been around before many of these competitors will still be getting paid from Apple. They are already receiving billions from Microsoft. Next up is suing Google.

Court battle ends, Apple to pay Nokia royalties
http://www.gsmarena.com/court_battle_ends_apple_to_pay_nokia_royalties-news-2774.php

Nokia and Motorola are like the parents who cradled this industry. Now they became grandparents that needs to be put in their pasture. Google all of Nokia's innovations. We wouldn't be where we are today without them. But their innovation have become the norm and get taken for granted because they didn't shove their innovations into people's throats during a keynote. People assume Apple invented the cell phone or smartphone. They reinvented.

Nokia Innovations
http://www.nokia.com/NOKIA_COM_1/About_Nokia/Sidebars_new_concept/Nokia_firsts/Firsts_2010.pdf

Nokia was the first with GSM, most recognizable ringtone, mobile game (Snake), built-in antenna, GSM triband, GSM push-to-talk, and the N91 was a revolutionary music phone (amazing audio quality) for its time back in 2005.

And now Nokia is the FIRST to beat Apple in a lawsuit involving cell phones.

 

[B777Forevar]

I don't understand why people would buy samsung phones (when there are better phone manufactures out there like HTC). All samsung phones feel like cheap plastic!

 

[ap3604]

Is this a joke?

OP seems to think that the company you buy a smartphone from is like a favorite sports team that you root for ("Go Samsung Go! Yay!" )

Dont give a **** which company sells more as long as I get the perfect phone for me...

 

[boss.king]

I don't understand why people would buy samsung phones (when there are better phone manufactures out there like HTC). All samsung phones feel like cheap plastic!

Apparently there aren't better phone manufacturers out there, as the SGS2 is currently rated the top smartphone to have (excluding the iPhone). HTC phones are known to have poor battery life and are more expensive.

 

[Tarzanman]

I don't understand why people would buy samsung phones (when there are better phone manufactures out there like HTC). All samsung phones feel like cheap plastic!

I like having a light phone. My Samsung Vibrant is *extremely* light and 'plasticky' feeling. That means it doesn't break, bend, or get dented when I drop it because it doesn't carry enough momentum to cause any damage

 

[Stealthipad]

I don't understand why people would buy samsung phones (when there are better phone manufactures out there like HTC). All samsung phones feel like cheap plastic!

Some people do not want their phone to weight as much as a iPhone. Even though the Samsung Galaxy S2 is light, it blows the iPhone 4 out of the water in every way. It will likely still perform better than the iPhone 5 and the Galaxy S3 is just around the corner.

Even a hard core fan boy must come up for air, try it!

 

[B777Forevar]

Even a hard core fan boy must come up for air, try it!

lolno, I'm no Apple fanboy. I'm just saying that I don't understand why people will dish out $200 for a phone that feels cheap. If I'm going to buy a $200 phone, it better feel like a $200 phone.

HTC phones are known to have poor battery life and are more expensive.

HTC may be expensive, but their built quality is on par with Apple.

 

[ap3604]

Some people do not want their phone to weight as much as a iPhone. Even though the Samsung Galaxy S2 is light, it blows the iPhone 4 out of the water in every way. It will likely still perform better than the iPhone 5 and the Galaxy S3 is just around the corner.

Even a hard core fan boy must come up for air, try it!

Will it EVER come to the states though?!

Will it be BUTCHERED by the U.S. carriers like the original Galaxy S was?

By the time it finally gets here in the U.S. will it be 6 months old tech AND a dumbed down version? Ugh

 

[Savor]

The one with inferior specs or was available cheaper usually won the sales war.

VHS inferior to Betamax. Still won in sales.

NES inferior specs to the Sega Master System. Still won in sales.

PlayStation inferior specs to Nintendo 64. Still won in sales.

PlayStation 2 inferior specs to Xbox and GameCube. Still won in sales.

Wii inferior specs to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Still won in sales.

GameBoy inferior specs to Game Gear, Atari Lynx, TurboExpress, etc. Still won in sales.

Nintendo DS inferior specs to the PSP. Still won in sales.

Microsoft Windows is a ripoff to Apple's GUI. Still won in sales.

Only time I remembered seeing superior tech win was SNES over Genesis/Mega Drive and Blu-ray over HD-DVD.

Cost matters to these people. And not every country lives off post-paid plans like the U.S. where you can sign two-year contracts. Most countries that are heavily populated (esp in Asia) still live on prepaid.

This is why Nokia phones still sell in volumes from the dumb phone segment especially in developing countries. I think Nokia should stick to making cheap, sub-$100 prepaid phones.

Nokia X2-01 (T-Mobile prepaid phone for about $60+)

Nokia C3-00 (Need Wi-Fi?)

Nokia seem to offer more bang for your buck than RIM. They need to cater that audience instead of competing in the premium smartphone segment vs Apple.

 

[MisterDisney]

Some people do not want their phone to weight as much as a iPhone. Even though the Samsung Galaxy S2 is light, it blows the iPhone 4 out of the water in every way. It will likely still perform better than the iPhone 5 and the Galaxy S3 is just around the corner.

Even a hard core fan boy must come up for air, try it!

You mean that the specs are superior in every way, yes? Clearly matters of form and function are highly debatable points to try to make. And Android is still far from compelling (opinion, of course). Also the little annoyance of Samsung devices being quickly forgotten, getting maybe one meaningful OS update in their entirely lifetime.

(Hard to take you seriously with that ridiculous icon btw. )

 

[labman]

Great thanks TS now I'm going to loose sleep tonight. This after just hearing Apple had taking the #1 spot in cell phone sales! and that they were now the 2nd largest company. and that Apple has more money then the US Government. My day is ruined I tell you ruined!

 

[accessoriesguy]

Is this a joke?

OP seems to think that the company you buy a smartphone from is like a favorite sports team that you root for ("Go Samsung Go! Yay!" )

Dont give a **** which company sells more as long as I get the perfect phone for me...

good point, but if we were not passionate about anything, life would seem rather dull.

Plus humans have this mentality that they want to have the best or that everyone is following them, aka twitter.

wow @Savor knows his videogame history

 

[Savor]

While it is important to look at how many units you sell, it also matters how much profit you make from each devices. Apple takes 2/3 of Mobile market profits.

Apple looks like it has won the HTC lawsuit. HTC has to make a deal with Apple or they will face a ban from US market.

Samsung isn't likely going to be able to win the lawsuit either. Samsung is clearly a biggest copy cat with apple iOS devices.

Samsung also released their Galaxy S2 and waves of other smart phones so far this year. What did apple release this year? Verizon iPhone 4 and white iphone 4...

Yet, they are still in the lead.

Also, if you pay attention to how Samsung Electronic is performing... (includes mobile, Tv, laptop, etc)
I am still disappointed with their numbers.

As an EX samsung investor and Current apple investor, I am long Apple and I am moving away from Samsung.

Apple will release iPhone 5 this fall and iPad 3 next year. Then they will release LTE iphone...

Samsung is clearly no match for apple.

"We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."

Steve Jobs, 1996: "Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal"
http://gizmodo.com/5483914/steve-jobs-1996-good-artists-copy-great-artists-steal



"The only problem with Microsoft is they have no taste."

Steve Jobs on Microsoft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upzKj-1HaKw

THE FOLLOWING YEAR...

MacWorld 1997 - The Microsoft Deal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY



Bill Gates: Steve, all cars have steering wheels, but no one tries to claim that the steering wheel was their invention.

Steve Jobs: What is this? This is like doing business with a praying mantis. You get seduced, and then eaten alive afterwards?

Bill Gates: Get real, would ya? You and I are both like guys who had this rich neighbor - Xerox - who left the door open all the time. And you go sneakin' in to steal a TV set. Only when you get there, you realize that I got there first. I got the loot, Steve! And you're yellin'? "That's not fair. I wanted to try to steal it first." You're too late.

Steve Jobs: We're better than you are. We have better stuff.

Bill Gates: You don't get it, Steve. That doesn't matter.

PIRATES OF SILICON VALLEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj6j9tEzo18&feature=related

 

[boss.king]

You mean that the specs are superior in every way, yes? Clearly matters of form and function are highly debatable points to try to make. And Android is still far from compelling (opinion, of course). Also the little annoyance of Samsung devices being quickly forgotten, getting maybe one meaningful OS update in their entirely lifetime.

(Hard to take you seriously with that ridiculous icon btw. )

A benefit of the Android community is that unofficially devices can be supported forever. The HTC G1 (Dream) which is the first Android phone made, can still be updated to Gingerbread. Android devices are not forgotten quickly, except for here on an Apple forum, on sites such as XDA a good phone will be supported for years before the community gives up on it.

On the other side of this argument, one could say that an iPhone only receives 1 meaningful update in its lifetime as well.

 

[wxman2003]

I suppose when you sell 200 variations of smartphones, you are bound to find enough suckers to buy their junk.

 

[ESPN]

The one with inferior specs or was available cheaper usually won the sales war.

VHS inferior to Betamax. Still won in sales.

NES inferior specs to the Sega Master System. Still won in sales.

PlayStation inferior specs to Nintendo 64. Still won in sales.

PlayStation 2 inferior specs to Xbox and GameCube. Still won in sales.

Wii inferior specs to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Still won in sales.

GameBoy inferior specs to Game Gear, Atari Lynx, TurboExpress, etc. Still won in sales.

Nintendo DS inferior specs to the PSP. Still won in sales.

Microsoft Windows is a ripoff to Apple's GUI. Still won in sales.

Only time I remembered seeing superior tech win was SNES over Genesis/Mega Drive and Blu-ray over HD-DVD.

Cost matters to these people. And not every country lives off post-paid plans like the U.S. where you can sign two-year contracts. Most countries that are heavily populated (esp in Asia) still live on prepaid.

This is why Nokia phones still sell in volumes from the dumb phone segment especially in developing countries. I think Nokia should stick to making cheap, sub-$100 prepaid phones.

Nokia X2-01 (T-Mobile prepaid phone for about $60+)
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Nokia C3-00 (Need Wi-Fi?)
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Nokia seem to offer more bang for your buck than RIM. They need to cater that audience instead of competing in the premium smartphone segment vs Apple.

The PLAYSTATION 2 was NOT inferior to the gamecube.

Xbox, probably but PS2 was ahead of gamecube.