I would use it more if my family owned iPhones. Only my mum has an iPhone. My husband said he was going to face time his sister on Christmas Day and I had to correct him because he has a Samsung Galaxy note 8 and used video calling on What’s App
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I admit that Android at the beginning is not that good. You are fixed with the old problems that has been addressed already. It seems that your bias against Android system will always see the OS indifferently even though it has come a long way already. Android OS evolves faster than iOS but then again even if Android OS reach near perfection you would still not like it because its not iOSso this is not a discussion about technical things but more being loyal to a product to a point you will not recognize any other products
I am not sure what you mean about disabling apps access to contacts specially you mention it right after the feature of disabling installation of apps from unknown sources. The two are not related. I can install apps from Google Play store but still can restrict apps access to my contacts including Google apps.
I don't have bias since I literally carry a Pixel 3 and an iPhone with me daily. See proof here: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ed-event-on-february-11.2218754/post-28127681
You're misunderstanding me. Disabling app access to contacts was a hypothetical example.
Open OS = ransomware-capable OS.
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Yeah. No. Yeah.
Not sure what your point is. You're saying your limited usage of a rooted phone had no malware, therefore Android is super secure?
I don't care enough to learn to use Android, and I really don't want to interact with Google more than I already do.
Not a huge smartphone user, I probably only have about 30-60 minutes of screen time a day average. Very basic use, so iPhone works fine for me and can't be bothered to change it.
Not a huge smartphone user, I probably only have about 30-60 minutes of screen time a day average. Very basic use, so iPhone works fine for me and can't be bothered to change it.
when did I say that. You stated that android phones will be infected with ransom ware and malware. Mine never were.
I did not state all Android phones will be infected. Also, I'm stating that I have no clue what the point of your statement was in reply to mine. If your phone wasn't infected, what does that mean for other phones?
Your statement is essentially the same as someone going to the Apple Genius Bar to fix an iPhone problem, but the Genius says "Well my iPhone works fine."
Sounds like you changed your mind about your original reply. Please don't waste people's time if you're not going to explain your thoughts clearly.
See ya.
What? Open OS = ransomeware-capable OS?
I think you need to educate yourself about ransomware
or malware in general.I am using a rooted phone and by no means I do not limit my usage of it. I don't know about iOS jailbreak but in Android rooted phone every time an app try to access binaries that requires root access it will always ask you whether you want to give it access.
What? Open OS = ransomeware-capable OS?
I think you need to educate yourself about ransomware
I am using a rooted phone and by no means I do not limit my usage of it. I don't know about iOS jailbreak but in Android rooted phone every time an app try to access binaries that requires root access it will always ask you whether you want to give it access.
I'm well versed. I'm a software engineer and had to deal with a friend's nephew's ransomware'd phone.
I think you're getting confused with the term "open OS" and an operating system that is open source. They're two completely different things. Windows is an open operating system, but it is not open source for example.
It doesn't matter if the OS asks the user a hundred times to give access to an app or not. As long as the malicious app can block the user from accessing data, it's considered ransomware. Maybe you need some more education in malware?
It was a 4-ish years ago.
My wife was one of the family members who had the Android phone and she absolutely will not go back to it for anything. She's a die-hard iPhone user now. In addition to all the bugs and issues she experienced, she hated the inconsistency in the Android UI across the system and in the apps. Using the iPhone is less of a guessing game for her.
For me, security is a big deal. The lack of timely updates really makes Android a nonstarter for me. A mobile OS needs to be able to roll out security fixes across the entire platform in a matter of days, if not hours. Apple has that down. With Android, it still seems to be crapshoot. I have no interest turning my phone into a security issue.
To each his own. I'm not denigrating those who choose Android. It's just not for me. I have better things to do than let my phone become a weekend hobby.
I'm still not sure what you mean by Windows an open OS. So I did what most people who has access to the internet, I Google search and even used Duckduck go but i can't find anything about your open OS. Page after page (google search) and more result after more result (duckduck go search) I cant find any information about your idea of open OS. It always points me to open source os. I guess I'm missing something or not using the correct keyword "open os". Maybe you can enlighten me.
I did not say that having those access option for apps means not susceptible to ransomware and malware in general. I was just pointing out that it is not that easy to infect yourself with malware even in rooted phone in Android OS. For those who have manage to root their phone it is safe to say that they already have a good understanding on the risk of being infected by malware and what knows what things to do to avoid getting infected.
What All Android Users Need to Know About Ransomware
Your complete guide to Android ransomware and what you can do to protect yourself against attacks.
google "open operating system"I'm still not sure what you mean by Windows an open OS. So I did what most people who has access to the internet, I Google search and even used Duckduck go but i can't find anything about your open OS. Page after page (google search) and more result after more result (duckduck go search) I cant find any information about your idea of open OS. It always points me to open source os. I guess I'm missing something or not using the correct keyword "open os". Maybe you can enlighten me.
I did not say that having those access option for apps means not susceptible to ransomware and malware in general. I was just pointing out that it is not that easy to infect yourself with malware even in rooted phone in Android OS. For those who have manage to root their phone it is safe to say that they already have a good understanding on the risk of being infected by malware and what knows what things to do to avoid getting infected.
What All Android Users Need to Know About Ransomware
Your complete guide to Android ransomware and what you can do to protect yourself against attacks.www.avg.com
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third result shows this: http://wirelessworld.com/2012/09/21/integrated-vs-open-operating-system/
first result also is valid, but doesn't go into detail: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/open-operating-system.html ("This system is ... more flexible for users.")
there are a few textbooks I used in my CS classes that discuss "open operating systems" as well. a random book I've found: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4757-3510-9_19
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Okay. Thanks for the info. However this does not support your idea about "open operating system" = malware.
The first link just describe that open os are systems that can be installed into different hardware or hardware architecture. like Android as opposed to iOS developed and maintained by Apple which also designed the hardware. What does that has to do with malware. As far as I understand malware are on the software level exploit whether you have "close" or "open" system you are always vulnerable if there is something in the system like a bug or a feature that can be exploited.
The 2nd link is very short just 2 sentences and it is very vague. And once again has nothing to do with malware.
"A type of operating system for computers that is able to perform operations with a variety of different processors. This system is affordable and more flexible for users."
The 3rd link says..
"The file system and modularization of a single-user operating system are described. The main points of interest are the openness of the system, which establishes no sharp boundary between itself and the user’s programs, and the techniques used to make the system robust."
That statement above is from the book you cited which is dated 1979 describes almost all modern operating system including iOS and again I don't see any of that connected to malware.
The goal of posting these three links was to let you learn about "open operating systems" since you had doubts of the existence of the term "open operating systems". They weren't meant to prove "open operating system" = ransomware (which by the way, i did not say "=malware" as you incorrectly stated. important distinction).
However, in the 3rd link, it makes a brief description and describes an author that was an early advocate of a "closed system" which has an attractive feature: "The system can protect itself from the users without having to make any assumptions about what they do".
If you understood what an open system is and the difference between an open and a closed system, you would understand why open systems are generally ransomware-capable. Go read up on it a little more. Perhaps go rent the book described in the 3rd link.
And to be clear, I am in no way saying closed systems are NOT capable of having ransomware. I'm saying one of the benefits of a closed system is that it CAN prevent ransomware while generally open systems are ransomware-capable.
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Since I'm not "hard of hearing", I prefer using the earpiece. I have, a few times, done video calls, but it's nothing I would miss, should the front camera disappear. I'd rather have a display without holes or chins than a front facing camera.
The OnePlus 7 pro has a pop-up front camera, but I thought that phone was too big, otherwise, that's a brilliant solution.
It has something to do with ransomware because you were the one to brought the idea about open OS and ransomware.
The 3rd link which was written 1979 applies to any modern OS. All modern OS protects the user through UI and abstraction from the intricacies of the OS. If I were too use the term open and closed system in context with iOS and Android OS it has something to do with locking down the OS. In Android the OS does not lock down the system to a point not limiting system customization and tinkering of the OS itself as opposed to iOS where you users have very limited option when it comes to customization not just in UI but in the whole system. Like in iOS jailbreaking is not supported but in Android rooting is tolerated and even installing different ROM is allowed.
The fact is your term of "open operating system" is rarely used in todays information tech era. Even Wikipedia does not have any information about your idea of "open operating system" because I think it does not describe any modern OS. Modern OS are open in a sense that they allow developers to work with it. Some of course have limited API and features like iOS but it does not mean they are closed OS, I think the best way to describe them is they are more of a lockdown OS but not a closed OS. Perhaps some embedded OS can be called a closed OS because once they are deployed there is nothing you do with it. But that would be a rare OS since most of the embedded OS are running Linux kernel which is an open source os and is very hackable in a sense you can do whatever you want to do with its kernel.
About your last paragraph, what I can say is "close" or "open" OS it matters very little when it comes to ransomware because this kind of malware thrives on exploiting bugs or features of the OS. It has little to do with being "close" or "open" but more on how robust and bug free the system is. Well if you are running Symbian OS for your keypad phone which has very little to none when it comes to installing 3rd party apps then I guess you could say its malware or ransomware free because afterall ransomware starts with social engineering. They don't install themselves to the system. Anyway I think we are way out of topic already
I rest my case.It has something to do with ransomware because you were the one to brought the idea about open OS and ransomware.
The 3rd link which was written 1979 applies to any modern OS. All modern OS protects the user through UI and abstraction from the intricacies of the OS. If I were too use the term open and closed system in context with iOS and Android OS it has something to do with locking down the OS. In Android the OS does not lock down the system to a point not limiting system customization and tinkering of the OS itself as opposed to iOS where you users have very limited option when it comes to customization not just in UI but in the whole system. Like in iOS jailbreaking is not supported but in Android rooting is tolerated and even installing different ROM is allowed.
The fact is your term of "open operating system" is rarely used in todays information tech era. Even Wikipedia does not have any information about your idea of "open operating system" because I think it does not describe any modern OS. Modern OS are open in a sense that they allow developers to work with it. Some of course have limited API and features like iOS but it does not mean they are closed OS, I think the best way to describe them is they are more of a lockdown OS but not a closed OS. Perhaps some embedded OS can be called a closed OS because once they are deployed there is nothing you do with it. But that would be a rare OS since most of the embedded OS are running Linux kernel which is an open source os and is very hackable in a sense you can do whatever you want to do with its kernel.
About your last paragraph, what I can say is "close" or "open" OS it matters very little when it comes to ransomware because this kind of malware thrives on exploiting bugs or features of the OS. It has little to do with being "close" or "open" but more on how robust and bug free the system is. Well if you are running Symbian OS for your keypad phone which has very little to none when it comes to installing 3rd party apps then I guess you could say its malware or ransomware free because afterall ransomware starts with social engineering. They don't install themselves to the system. Anyway I think we are way out of topic already
I've only read your first sentence and have a good feeling on what the rest of your comment is so I'm going to ignore the rest.
You again misunderstood me. My links were not to show how open systems are ransomware capable. They were there to educate you about open and closed systems. Please do not educate me on what you think you might know about open systems since you had no clue the term existed a few days ago while I've taken course on Operating Systems while studying computer science for 4 years in college.
I don't know how many more times I have to say what the goal of my links were so I'm going to stop this conversation here. Feel free to reply but I will not be reading anymore from you to save time for both of us.
"Fan of" is different from claiming it's a "worse idea". I agree that it might be more likely to be damaged, but that depends on your usage. I mean, for me, with perhaps a few video calls per year, it would be extremely unlikely that my camera would be damaged, and even if it would be, I wouldn't really care, hence the undisturbed screen would be more valuable to me.
For someone constantly using video calls, or presenting duck face selfies on their insta channel, sure, that camera would be more likely to suffer damage.
The mobile phone industry has proven that moving parts can be reliable on phones, remember all the folding phones of yesteryear? There were oh so many models, and most of them held up surprisingly well.
For someone constantly using video calls, or presenting duck face selfies on their insta channel, sure, that camera would be more likely to suffer damage.
The mobile phone industry has proven that moving parts can be reliable on phones, remember all the folding phones of yesteryear? There were oh so many models, and most of them held up surprisingly well.
To me, “not a fan of” = “worse design”. I take lots of pictures and use FaceTime frequently. But people said the notch was terrible and derided it plenty here. And yet the public at large bought the phones.
The best solution is no notch or pop up flash or big chin or forehead.
The best solution is no notch or pop up flash or big chin or forehead.