How do you know Samsung isn't playing dumb, waiting to release something game changing?
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Samsung Underestimating Apple's Potential Impact on Television Market?
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They never give samsung or any other manufacturer any type of credit on this forum, you should know that.
10,000 staff in R&D seems like a stupidly high number. This is one area where quality over quantity backed by a good budget and no interference from other departments (especially marketing) trumps all.
Anyway, IF apple did release a TV they would likely use samsung displays anyway :S
Although i will only believe it when i see it. People don't buy TVs often enough so as fussy as it is the set top box is still the best option.
Anyway, IF apple did release a TV they would likely use samsung displays anyway :S
Although i will only believe it when i see it. People don't buy TVs often enough so as fussy as it is the set top box is still the best option.
You should tell that first part to Samsung since they probably don't know what they're doing
I mostly have to agree with them. I don't care about a TV's smart features, I'm capable enough to handle consoles, DVRs etc all plugged into the same TV. For me it's all about picture quality. I buy a dumb TV because I only get a new one every 5-7 years.
Dumb TV+smart devices.
Dumb TV+smart devices.
Actually, I believe that people would buy a new tv every couple of years if the technology was chaning more frequently. Right now it doesnt.
People seem to have no issue with buying a new phone out right every year. These are not cheap. Sure, cheaper than tv's generally and would be cheaper than tv's highly packed with features. But, people get silly with their money when they want something. They will keep buying the latest and greatest.
The big competitor with Apple TV is not other television manufactures but television networks. These networks that have broadcasted towards passive viewers for almost a century are about to have their audience stolen from them.
If the UI is right, users will turn off any show that they don't interact with. Suddenly the Alpha State Suggestive Condition that most television programming has depended on goes away.
The Qube Network in the 80's and Davinci Time and Space in the 90's almost had this but the plug was pulled. Apple has it all set up to keep the big money from killing this user interaction audience. People are waking up!
I'd say most people upgrade their phone every 2 years because it is offered as part of their contract, Macs less often.
I think the networks are Apples biggest obstacle but not their biggest competitor in the TV market.
I'm not going to say the specs are meaningless, but they mean world's less than intuitiveness and content does.
Why don't I watch TV? Either:
a - It's because it's too difficult to figure out how to get it set up or
b - There isn't anything worth watching.
I have large TVs and small TVs, TVs with DVR, HD, and surround sound, and TVs that flicker and I have to turn knobs to change channels on.
Guess which one I watch? Neither! Or, if there's something really worth watching (this, on average, seems to be about 1 hour per 168 hours in a week.)
If Apple comes up with a solution that gets me the content I want quickly and easily, without 3 separate remotes to get everything set up, without a TV that needs to be connected to a box that's connected to my computer, then maybe I'll actually watch TV a little more often.
Or, more likely, I won't spend significantly more time watching TV, I'll spend significantly less time figuring out how to watch it when I want to and I'll have more time to do the other things in life (... sleep? I hope it means I can get a few extra minutes of sleep each week...)
Why don't I watch TV? Either:
a - It's because it's too difficult to figure out how to get it set up or
b - There isn't anything worth watching.
I have large TVs and small TVs, TVs with DVR, HD, and surround sound, and TVs that flicker and I have to turn knobs to change channels on.
Guess which one I watch? Neither! Or, if there's something really worth watching (this, on average, seems to be about 1 hour per 168 hours in a week.)
If Apple comes up with a solution that gets me the content I want quickly and easily, without 3 separate remotes to get everything set up, without a TV that needs to be connected to a box that's connected to my computer, then maybe I'll actually watch TV a little more often.
Or, more likely, I won't spend significantly more time watching TV, I'll spend significantly less time figuring out how to watch it when I want to and I'll have more time to do the other things in life (... sleep? I hope it means I can get a few extra minutes of sleep each week...)
Most, yes but many apple fanatics and the like dont wait that long and buy outright.
Plus, who's to say that a similar offering can't be done with apple tv sets when a subscription to a 24 month tv package is bought?
Since bargain low quality brands like Olevia, Vizio and LG outsell Samsung, I would say Samsung is a just a bit nervous about Apple moving into their high end territory. Samsung makes great TVs, so great Sony uses the same panels. Apple could just as easily buy the panels from them or another high quality LCD maker and be very competitive with Samsung. Samsung will likely be cheaper but the high end dollars will go into Apple's pockets taking money away from Samsung.
Frankly I'm not convinced about Apple's move to this market. Apple likes to sell products people replace often...people replace TVs on average every 10-15 years. Apple would also force us to join their TV universe which frankly hasn't been impressive...could an Apple TV be DLNA compliant? Nope iTunes Airplay only. Could it play avi's and mkvs? Nope only stuff from the iTunes store. Sports? No way. Do I want to hack my TV to get it to play what I want? Definitly no! I love Apple products but can't see myself buying an Apple TV--the Apple TV they do make, sits collecting dust while my WD HD Live Media player is used constantly.
Frankly I'm not convinced about Apple's move to this market. Apple likes to sell products people replace often...people replace TVs on average every 10-15 years. Apple would also force us to join their TV universe which frankly hasn't been impressive...could an Apple TV be DLNA compliant? Nope iTunes Airplay only. Could it play avi's and mkvs? Nope only stuff from the iTunes store. Sports? No way. Do I want to hack my TV to get it to play what I want? Definitly no! I love Apple products but can't see myself buying an Apple TV--the Apple TV they do make, sits collecting dust while my WD HD Live Media player is used constantly.
People often get new phones because of contracts and being able to upgrade faster, it's just part of how the smart phone market is built. But I understand what you're getting at. Although personally I think if Apple DID get into TVs, they would NOT have it work under a model like their iPhones/iPads where they update it every year or so. It's common sense, and surely Apple knows that.
Right, cos no one puts up with it now...
Did you say the same about the first iphone? There were plenty of phones with "good feature sets" back then
Judging by the comments seems like most of you own low or medium grade TVs so I'm not surprised at all the picture quality doesn't mean crap comments.
But for those of us who like high end TVs, picture quality is important. If I'm spending 2k.for a 46" TV it better look damn good since the vast majority of time with my TV is spent watching it, not playing around in the menus.
But for those of us who like high end TVs, picture quality is important. If I'm spending 2k.for a 46" TV it better look damn good since the vast majority of time with my TV is spent watching it, not playing around in the menus.
Getting Nervous?
REUNIFICATION!!!!!!! Let's go. Kim Jr. is willing to talk Nukes with the US and China.
The time is near Samsung. Prepare to house your brothers and sisters with open arms!!!!!!!
For a good 20 years.
REUNIFICATION!!!!!!! Let's go. Kim Jr. is willing to talk Nukes with the US and China.
The time is near Samsung. Prepare to house your brothers and sisters with open arms!!!!!!!
For a good 20 years.
And I though that people knew how to use TVs since early last century. Why is it so difficult for you?
Apple's just going to come out and say Bam we,ve got the retina display tv that displays hd with four times the pixels and with a res of 7680x 4320... Also with the new super apple tv box you can watch Ultra high Def anytime with our super sampling scaler that changes stanard hd into Ultra HD
Just was day dreaming
Just was day dreaming
10,000 heads in R&D? That's great...
Ever stop to think about this, Moseley?:
"Innovation has nothing to do with how many R&D dollars you have. When Apple came up with the Mac, IBM was spending at least 100 times more on R&D. It's not about money. It's about the people you have, how you're led, and how much you get it."
Ever stop to think about this, Moseley?:
"Innovation has nothing to do with how many R&D dollars you have. When Apple came up with the Mac, IBM was spending at least 100 times more on R&D. It's not about money. It's about the people you have, how you're led, and how much you get it."
Apple's just going to come out and say Bam we,ve got the retina display tv that displays hd with four times the pixels and with a res of 7680x 4320... Also with the new super apple tv box you can watch Ultra high Def anytime with our super sampling scaler that changes stanard hd into Ultra HD
Just was day dreaming
Retina doesn't matter if it is LCD.
I'd like to add to this that for high quality gear today TV smartness is absolutely irrelevant. TV sets simply serve as monitors connected to A/V receiver via HDMI. All smartness should be connected to A/V receiver and not the TV. I do not want to listen to crappy 1.5W speakers on Apple TV.
