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Yeah, kinda like Apple.

I love the way some people demonize certain companies as "evil". As if infringing upon intellectual property is tantamount to theft, and there's some great morality play going on amongst all the corporations of the world.

Truth is, when it comes to companies as large as Apple and Samsung, there is no "good", nor is there an "evil". It's all varying degrees of cheap scummy bastardism.

People see Apple as evil because they like power, but they almost always reach a fair agreement if they used a patent belonging to somebody else. Reading this website will teach you that.

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Provide a link. I'd be interested in where this came from.

I don't have a link with a list of every bad thing Samsung has done, do some research on Samsung's patent history. They always fight it when they infringe a patent instead of trying to reach a fair agreement. That's what started the whole dispute with them and Apple that is still going on now. I recall them actually being quoted in a MacRumors page that they had no desire to work it out with Apple when they were infringing on Apple's patents. Tim Cook even said in his first interview with all things D as CEO, something along the lines of when a company does that they are essentially saying that they are going to try to steal that patent without paying their due price to use it. Apple on the contrary usually makes an agreement and pays the patent owner the fee when they are found infringing a patent. Again, do research on their patent history before telling me I'm wrong.
 
If the rumours from earlier this year are believed, Apple were to release by end of this year, but pushed that as they weren't happy with battery life. They want it to last a week.

No, the whole smart watch is dump. I will never charge my watch once a day or once a week. Heck, I cannot remember last time I replaced the battery on my watch
 
No, the whole smart watch is dump. I will never charge my watch once a day or once a week. Heck, I cannot remember last time I replaced the battery on my watch

So what, that's just your opinion. The whole concept is not invalid cod you don't like it. You do not speak for every consumer. There's a market out there, look at how well the pebble is doing.

Also you cannot compare a smart watch with a standard watch. It's like comparing walking with flying in a jet...
 
So what, that's just your opinion. The whole concept is not invalid cod you don't like it. You do not speak for every consumer. There's a market out there, look at how well the pebble is doing.

Also you cannot compare a smart watch with a standard watch. It's like comparing walking with flying in a jet...

A watch need to be a watch in first place. It is like a smartphone need to be phone first. A smartphone does not have good call quality makes it useless. Let us take to street, ask people how often do they want to charge their watch. I doubt many people will into charge their watch every single week. I still feel the battery life on smartphone is weak, therefore, I always carrying a battery pack with me.

A smart watch really doesn't achieve anything at all. Most smart watch nowadays connects your phone via Bluetooth and display information on that tiny display. You can just look at your phone.

Anyway, when a smart watch can't get acceptable battery life, it is useless.
 
I can't believe this thing is $300 and the battery only lasts one day... I'll save my money and take my phone out of my pocket to check the time. Or you know, look at my watch.

Something is wrong if you can't wait the amount of time it takes to check your phone to see who texted you or the subject line of an email.
 
A watch need to be a watch in first place. It is like a smartphone need to be phone first. A smartphone does not have good call quality makes it useless. Let us take to street, ask people how often do they want to charge their watch. I doubt many people will into charge their watch every single week. I still feel the battery life on smartphone is weak, therefore, I always carrying a battery pack with me.

A smart watch really doesn't achieve anything at all. Most smart watch nowadays connects your phone via Bluetooth and display information on that tiny display. You can just look at your phone.

Anyway, when a smart watch can't get acceptable battery life, it is useless.

That's if you look at it as a watch. Sure it's called smartwatch, but common sense would show that telling time is not it's primary function. Honestly, the time is in front of me so often in life that I rarely glance at my real watch, I readily admit it is more of a fashion statement than a tool to tell time.

No, smartwatches are more mini extensions of the smartphones themselves, they just happen to be designed to be worn on the wrist. If they are useful is in the eye of the beholder, personally I would find many of the functions of the Gear VERY useful to the way I use my smartphone. I'm not saying I would buy that hideous monstrosity, but I would definitely buy the functionality in a nicer package with better battery life.
 
People need phones, they don't need watches. This is a niche product, just like the iWatch will be a niche product. It's not going to improve someone's life the say a smartphone or tablet will do.

Yup exactly. There are very few people that will buy this watch and even fewer who will use it for anything other than telling the time, that's if the battery hasn't died. This is very gimmicky. I'm sure Apple's version will be better, still nothing more than a gimmick and I'm sure upon release the whole world will p!ss itself like an excited dog..
 
surely a watch is something that you should always be able to check the time from? I mean 1 day and thats it, wind up pocket watches from a century ago did better than that!

Massive fail.

I just hope apple don't make a watch based on not being happy with battery life and usability. The watch is a NON starter tech idea that needs to die for now.
 
No one will buy it, it's just doesn't even compare to the idea of what Apple can do. Now when the actual iWatch comes out, Samsung fans are going to talk so much non-sense that Apple copied but in the end we all know that Samsung will never come up with a full iOS device with curved glass OLED 2.5" retina display with wireless charging capability....

And for $300 bucks, hahahahahaha thats an iPad Mini 2 retina right there, what a joke !
 
I'm pretty confident that I, by myself, in 1999, could have designed and built a better smart watch than what an entire team of Samsung designers, architects, industrial engineers, software engineers, and manufacturers just built in 2013.

I bet he could.... in 1987 I had a video game watch that was also a calculator and dictionary... and that already lists more viable functionality than this $300 epic turd of a smart watch that only streams from a bulbous phone.

It played 10 games... snake one of them.... that's more than this has. and it was something i got for selling wrapping paper and candy in elementary school
 
A watch need to be a watch in first place. It is like a smartphone need to be phone first. A smartphone does not have good call quality makes it useless. Let us take to street, ask people how often do they want to charge their watch. I doubt many people will into charge their watch every single week. I still feel the battery life on smartphone is weak, therefore, I always carrying a battery pack with me.

A smart watch really doesn't achieve anything at all. Most smart watch nowadays connects your phone via Bluetooth and display information on that tiny display. You can just look at your phone.

Anyway, when a smart watch can't get acceptable battery life, it is useless.

You're entire first paragraph about charging could be applied to old mobiles and smartphones, my Nokia 3210 got 2 weeks between charge, but my iPhone is a day- day and a half. Watches and smart watches are entirely different entities and you cannot compare them.

As for smart watches not achieving anything at all, you're being ridiculous. You're posting your own opinion as a fact for all, when really it's just your opinion. Many people see a use for these devices and there's definitely a market for them, look at the demand the pebble has.

I bet you've not even looked into the full ability of these devices so far.
 
The main failure with it, is the fact that it needs to be paired to a phone. It's superfluous. The watch needs to be a stand alone unit that can take/make calls and texts.

I don't think Apple's version will be much different. It will be better, it's hard not to have a better battery life than 1 day for a watch, but I think it will need to be paired to an Iphone which will just be a failboat X 10.

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You're entire first paragraph about charging could be applied to old mobiles and smartphones, my Nokia 3210 got 2 weeks between charge, but my iPhone is a day- day and a half. Watches and smart watches are entirely different entities and you cannot compare them.

As for smart watches not achieving anything at all, you're being ridiculous. You're posting your own opinion as a fact for all, when really it's just your opinion. Many people see a use for these devices and there's definitely a market for them, look at the demand the pebble has.

I bet you've not even looked into the full ability of these devices so far.

Very true. My GPS watch which I use for triathlons need charging regularly, but it does a hell of a lot more than your standard casio. Still needing charging every day for the Samsung watch is a bit much.
 
I bet he could.... in 1987 I had a video game watch that was also a calculator and dictionary... and that already lists more viable functionality than this $300 epic turd of a smart watch that only streams from a bulbous phone.

It played 10 games... snake one of them.... that's more than this has. and it was something i got for selling wrapping paper and candy in elementary school

You and the OP can't be serious.

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A smart watch really doesn't achieve anything at all. Most smart watch nowadays connects your phone via Bluetooth and display information on that tiny display. You can just look at your phone.

Yes, I can look at my smartphone when I'm running or I can use it to skip a song but it is a lot better to use my Pebble for do those actions. So no, the "doesn't achieve anything at all" is wrong, at least for me.
 
You and the OP can't be serious.

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Yes, I can look at my smartphone when I'm running or I can use it to skip a song but it is a lot better to use my Pebble for do those actions. So no, the "doesn't achieve anything at all" is wrong, at least for me.

a watch is better than pulling out the phone.

but the key purpose of a watch, that most people use it for is for "quick glances".

here's the problem I have with the current crop of smartwatches, and until there's one that does these things well, it will never be the next "iPod" / "iPhone" for mass adoption

1. At a glance: A watch is not a device you sit and stare at. it's not a fully interactive device that requires you holding your wrist up for long periods of time and interact with. it's an information delivery system, meant to looked at for a few seconds at a time to give you a summary of something. Making a watch that you have to "turn on" to see, or menu navigation just to get information defeats the purpose.

2. Looks. it can't look like the watch the first guy said. the one that came in a box of cracker jacks or from your public schools wrapping paper drive. there is a reason why the majority of people who wear watches, don't actually wear digital / plastic watches. they might have one for the gym or working out, but the average business person wears a standard metal framed watch, that actually is more form over function (usually just telling the time), and will wear that type of watch more than any other. Watches are more fashion accessory than practical. Smart Watches have failed to meet this look and feel people want in their everyday wearable. Samsung's offering is so far off from this, that it will be lucky to sell to anyone outside fo the hardcore geek. those who would wear dick tracy's watch if they could.

3. People like wearing watches because of the no brainer, low maintenance of them. if you have to remember to plug it in regularly, and have battery life measured in hours, You're not going to sell many. I wear my watch because of all my tech, gadgets, doodads and fancies, My watch is a dependable, reliable piece of equipment, that not only looks decent, but is a reliable piece of equipment. everything else might die on me. I maybe completely out of tech, but I know, when I pick up my watch and look at my wrist, in < 2 seconds I will know the Time. no "is my battery charged", no "well, i cant tell the time right now cause It hasn't synced yet". it's just there. On the time. all the time. I may replace the battery once every 2-3 years, but thats it.

until a smartwatch can match these 3 basic requirements for me. I will never pick it up. Making a smartwatch isn't about throwing the most tech on your wrist. You can get away with it with a phone, but not a watch. A watch has to be a quality device.

I've been in the market for a new watch. I look at them all the time. i've been holding off cause I was curious to see what the smart watches of "the future" will hold. So far none have been even remotely appealing to me. I might just go ahead and buy the old fashioned analogue watch I've been eyeing for a few years now.
 
I can't believe this thing is $300 and the battery only lasts one day... I'll save my money and take my phone out of my pocket to check the time. Or you know, look at my watch.

Something is wrong if you can't wait the amount of time it takes to check your phone to see who texted you or the subject line of an email.

I agree that the one-day battery is a deal breaker on a watch. But for the idea of smart watches in general - I like being able to glance at my watch rather than pulling my phone out of my pocket. It is convenient and less obtrusive and more acceptable in situations where pulling out the phone seems impolite - meetings, social situations, etc... As you even say, if I want to know the time I glance at my watch. At least with my Pebble that is how I use it - at a glance info. It vibrates 15 minutes before meetings, shows text messages, displays my Runkeeper stats while running and allows me to change music without pulling my phone out while running. I understand they are not for everyone but I don't understand the theme of - don't buy it, just use your phone for all that - if you want to pull your phone out all the time, feel free. It nice to have all those features on a phone I just find it awkward to pull it out of my pocket all the time for even basic information.
 
I agree more less with all of your points but I was just saying that smartwatches are not just a useless device as the OP tried to say

oh i agree, I would love a watch that I could look at, and in < 5 seconds be able to see the time, date, and my notifications.
 
Massive waste

It's only compatible with that massive hunk of crap Note III. So now you have a phone with a screen too big to hold and a watch with a scree too small to see. Combined, you have nothing useful and you're out $600.00. And really... what is the point of your phone working on your watch? Its just silly stupid.
 
Wow the galaxy gear sucks! how lame.

Ok.. so honestly, Vault Feed says it perfectly when it says that it "doesn't change anything" - http://VaultFeed.com/galaxy-gear-smart-watch-fail-or-win/ - Because honestly it doesn't! REALLY!

Why would you go back to using a watch?

I stopped using my watch when I got a smartphone, because it did everything better and faster and it wasn't annoying as heck to have on my wrist all day.

I don't see how samsung OR Apple for that matter can succeed in making a watch that really doesn't do anything different.

If they could make something super "innovative" then MAYBE just MAYBE it would be "the next big thing." However this is the "Next Big Fail"

Thats my 2 cents!
 
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