It's about time. I was going to switch my iPhone 7 for a soon to be galaxy S8 just because OLED can reproduce pure blacks. But maybe I'll hold off if these rumors are true as I prefer iOS. Side note, once you get accustomed to an OLED TV it's brutal going back to an LED LCD.
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Samsung Will Supply Apple With a Total 160 Million OLED Panels for iPhone 8
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This is my exact line of work, I work for Bentley Motors in the U.K. and ensure parts are kept in stock and that the system matches the stock levels we have throughout the factory.
I'm responsible for 2,000 individual parts, some bespoke, it costs the company $20,000 per minute that the production line stops.
We only build 60 cars per day, so I cannot even imagine how many iPhones are produced each and every day, especially leading up to a new release.
Np!
& yeah, it's a "forum issue" for sure.
Your screen is on for fairly scant moments whilst remaining static. If you have your screen on for longer than a minute, I'd hazard you're doing something.
The smallest amount of time I'm aware of that burn in has occurred on an OLED was on the (now infamous) LG display televisions at Harrods. They were left at max brightness for two months straight, with a menu overlay in the exact same spot on the screen. When finally toggled off.... there was screen burn.
I have difficulty imagining a scenario where you could replicate those conditions on a smart phone.
Samsung has been a leader in displays but your first sentence implies it's in every area... Anyway Samsung themselves have offered "premium" OLED panels only on their higher end models in the past, and weaker versions of it on lower end models (or LCDs). So Apple doing this wouldn't be any different from Samsung.
Yes Samsung
I'm pretty sure Tim & Co crunched the numbers on this and found it wasn't worth it. Price of getting up to speed and becoming competitive and making displays just doesn't compare to ordering millions from an established vendor. In other ways, they crunched the numbers and decided to take the plunge- e.g. Designing SoCs in house (next you'll ask why don't they fab their own SoCs instead of having TSMC and Samsung do it
Any non-anecdotal citations? I read 8 pages of responses on AndroidForums that was little more than one gent's story vs. another's. It amounted to little more than argumentative heresay.
Reminded me of another place....
Any specific things you're looking for? Scientific studies telling why OLED burn in is a thing?
I'm pretty sure Tim & Co crunched the numbers on this and found it wasn't worth it. Price of getting up to speed and becoming competitive and making displays just doesn't compare to ordering millions from an established vendor. In other ways, they crunched the numbers and decided to take the plunge- e.g. Designing SoCs in house (next you'll ask why don't they fab their own SoCs instead of having TSMC and Samsung do it
I'm sure it makes sense financially I just always found it strange how they rely on their biggest rivals for parts and then need to find multiple suppliers. Especially when Apple aren't exactly short of cash.
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Costs a ton of money to make fab plants. Samsung spent about $15B a few years ago for a chip plant. A mere chip plant. Now imagine Apple having to start a bunch of plants to supply their hardware, plus the future costs of retooling. It's cheaper to rely on suppliers than doing it on your own.
It makes sense strategically as well. Manufacturing only works when you have customers. When you're the only customer and supplier your component cost are exponentially higher than everyone else's. Continuous R&D for improvements, re-tooling, and lock in with your in-house tech... the last thing Apple needs to do is get into manufacturing. Well, unless they want to watch realtime while that pile of money shrinks.
How about yes please. People who like it thicker can always add some fat case to it
No
Not sure if you're being snippy/sarcastic, and if so, why.
I've seen little else other than forum arguments with the biggest evidence being store display models.
I would like to see stronger evidence/arguments if you've got it.
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Apple has placed an order to Samsung Display for 60 million OLED panels for this year's iPhone 8, in addition to the 100 million units reportedly ordered by Apple last April. If the numbers are accurate, today's news confirms the display maker as Apple's main source of OLED screens for the next-generation iPhone (via The Korea Herald).
According to those familiar with the display market, Samsung will officially supply around 80 percent of the display panels in the iPhone 8. The company still didn't confirm the Apple-related OLED news, with a Samsung spokesperson saying "we can't officially comment on anything related to the order."
The iPhone 8 is expected to include an OLED screen as a way for Apple to make the device thinner and include an edge-to-edge design with various features -- like Touch ID -- integrated directly into the screen. Apple is believed to launch three total new iPhones this year, two of which will be basic updates to the iPhone 7, referred to as the "iPhone 7s" and "iPhone 7s Plus," while the third "iPhone 8" will include the OLED display and more drastic design changes.
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I'm not being sarcastic. It all depends on what you do with your device, so personal anecdotes is all you can get.
thinning out smartphones is stupid. it makes them harder to hold (the 7 is the perfect example of that) when you could make it slightly thicker to make the battery life amazing.
No, that's what you think. How on earth is that hard to hold and why do things need to be thick and heavy to be easy to hold? I don't see people struggling to keep a spun or pencil on their hands!! These mobile devices are thick due to technology limitations, and you can rest assured they will they will get thinner. And so they should, any mobile product should take as minimal space as possible in pockets or wherever they are kept. It would be interesting if Apple did a thick iPhone to see how many they sell!! I tell you, people who want bricks in their hands and pockets are quite numbered!
And what's this thing with battery life anyway? Don't you sleep at least once in 24 hours?? That's when people usually tend to charge the phone, even though I do admit that for some people, the 2 seconds it takes for plugging the phone on charge is a great effort and very frustrating!
Agreed.
I've never understood this argument. It's always just come across as justification for devices' limitations. Ever worked a long day? Travelled internationally? Forgotten to charge your phone?
Worrying about battery life when a phone is one's primary means of communication, camera, GPS, translator, etc. is annoying at the least and often much more.
I am not saying it is not nice to have a super great battery life, but for me really it has never been a big deal, at least not on the last 3 years. At long days at work there is a charger on my desk. When I travel, I have a battery pack, not just for the phone but just about any electronic device I have on me. I really never forget to charge my phone. Is one of these routine things I do before I go to bed, just like I brush my teeth. But that is just me and of course we are not all the same.
I get that. It totally makes sense, and I feel/act almost identically.
However, the fact that we have to carry an adapter with us and had to buy battery packs for travel indicates that there are inherent problems.
Those are solutions to a problem. Sure they're minor and we've accepted them as trade offs that are "worth it," but they're trade offs nonetheless.
Probably apple doesn't want to loose $1billion in patent issues...then it'll be who copied whom instead
[doublepost=1487418441][/doublepost]I see where you are coming from but it is still Apples idea which Im sure gets patented before they ask Samsung to make it for them. And secondly, its Apple. They've always been known as they expensive phone company that people will save up two paychecks and be late on their rent just to get.
I've had OLED panels in my phones for years. I've got an OLED TV which I've had for about four years.
The only time I've noticed any sort of burn-in was on a phone a few years ago where, for some reason I can't remember, my phone's screen was completely white. Looking very hard you could just about see a shadow of the clock.
But that's it.