Samsung's Goals for 2012: 'Beating Apple is #1 Priority'

[Beautyspin]

I agree about 1020's

Because in those countries people buy cheap phones. They aren't buying galaxyS4 or Nokia 1020's either.

But Galaxy s4, it is very well sold at full price (not carrier discounted rates). For example, in India, they make up 20% of the entire sales of Samsung..

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...from-Galaxy-S4-range/articleshow/21001370.cms

Try harder.

 

[campingsk8er]

Anyone with competitive drive to be #1 and overtake current #1 makes someone evil?

It was a joke...

 

[LordVic]

It was a joke...

it was like 5 words. There is no way of determining sarcasm from that post, especially without the use of any smiley.


just a hint.

the overuse of smiley's in a lot of posts is what gives it away.

 

[kerrikins]

Ok. Then What Android software doesn't run on various devices vs what does or does not run on iOS.

How is Android "more" fragmented or a bigger issue?

Android's fragmentation is a bigger issue because the carriers and the manufacturers are the ones who decide what phones get what version of the software and when, whereas Apple rolls out their upgrades to their phones en masse. The upgrade is 'available' to all phones they determine once they flick the switch, whether or not people actually decide to upgrade the software.

This higher level of control means they can do more testing to make sure that things like screen size, operating power, etc, are all accounted for. My understanding from developers who have posted on the issue is that Android is improving in this regard but still lags behind iOS.

 

[samcraig]

Android's fragmentation is a bigger issue because the carriers and the manufacturers are the ones who decide what phones get what version of the software and when, whereas Apple rolls out their upgrades to their phones en masse. The upgrade is 'available' to all phones they determine once they flick the switch, whether or not people actually decide to upgrade the software.

This higher level of control means they can do more testing to make sure that things like screen size, operating power, etc, are all accounted for. My understanding from developers who have posted on the issue is that Android is improving in this regard but still lags behind iOS.

Except Google Play Services is integrated into the OS and has been for awhile now and that gets updated across all OSes/devices. Also Google's core apps are updated regularly. You really can't compare the OSes when it comes to fragmentation against each other because they have different update models.

What we can say - is that it appears iOS apps are more profitable for developers which would certainly affect why/how a developer chooses which OS to develop for.

 

[LordVic]

Except Google Play Services is integrated into the OS and has been for awhile now and that gets updated across all OSes/devices. Also Google's core apps are updated regularly. You really can't compare the OSes when it comes to fragmentation against each other because they have different update models.

What we can say - is that it appears iOS apps are more profitable for developers which would certainly affect why/how a developer chooses which OS to develop for.

its one of the pro's of keeping main services app based, rather than purely integrated into the OS.

it gives google the power to update and keep their core set of apps more up to date on users devices regardless of the OS level.

Recent example: The Camera app in android has long been considered subpar (it was). If everyone had to wait for 4.4.3 to get the latest best Android camera app, yes, Fragmentation would be a serious top level concern.

But, by having it a stand alone app, that can be distributed via the Play store, You can now make sure that everyeone on a capitable OS version can get the latest camera enhancements.

Thus helps remove the "fragmentation" issue considerably. Build in that Android does not have the same prgramatical constraints on dimensions and pixel count, means that its theoertically easier to make an app that has a wider audience, despite their platforms being so spread out.

 

[samcraig]

its one of the pro's of keeping main services app based, rather than purely integrated into the OS.

it gives google the power to update and keep their core set of apps more up to date on users devices regardless of the OS level.

Recent example: The Camera app in android has long been considered subpar (it was). If everyone had to wait for 4.4.3 to get the latest best Android camera app, yes, Fragmentation would be a serious top level concern.

But, by having it a stand alone app, that can be distributed via the Play store, You can now make sure that everyeone on a capitable OS version can get the latest camera enhancements.

Thus helps remove the "fragmentation" issue considerably. Build in that Android does not have the same prgramatical constraints on dimensions and pixel count, means that its theoertically easier to make an app that has a wider audience, despite their platforms being so spread out.

I'll also add that while some may argue over different skins (I happen to love Samsung's photo app) - the other "core" advantage Android has in this regard is that the user can select which default apps are used. So even if you have an outdated (or don't like) one app (IE mail, camera, music, etc) you can easily select the one you want.

 

[ackmondual]

Customers ask for Apple products because of their superior quality. Come on Samsung it's not that complicated.

I've just seen a Samsung ad on the front page of Macrumours... is this normal?? I haven't seen one on here before.

retailers and cell phone kiosks tend to push Android phones. Since Apple makes about $400 per iPhone, that's much less money for themselves

Android's fragmentation is a bigger issue because the carriers and the manufacturers are the ones who decide what phones get what version of the software and when, whereas Apple rolls out their upgrades to their phones en masse. The upgrade is 'available' to all phones they determine once they flick the switch, whether or not people actually decide to upgrade the software.
This higher level of control means they can do more testing to make sure that things like screen size, operating power, etc, are all accounted for. My understanding from developers who have posted on the issue is that Android is improving in this regard but still lags behind iOS.

I've talked with 2 separate Android devs back mid 2013. "Fragmentation" is mostly a thing of the past. Sure, it's still there, but it's not some huge plague of development that folks emphasize it to be. At least 50% of users were on Android 4.x+. If you can do a bit of work to get the 2.x users, great. Otherwise, many people running 2.x are likely those who got free or $50 phones that weren't going to be interested in your apps anyways.

 

[ackmondual]

It's ironic that given the Iph6/+, Apple's now becoming more like Samsung with larger screen phones, of which 4" was touted to be "the size" for the longest time. Also ironic how Samsung's taking a page from Apple's approach given the Galaxy s6 not having a user removable battery nor memory card expansion slot.