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wow, the device from 2025 still apparently being finalized has newer technology than the one announced in 2023 and likely finalized in 2022?
Color me shocked.
also, I could be wrong here, but one of the highly criticized part of the Apple Vision Pro was the FOV not being big enough, and it sounds like these Samsung headsets will have… An even smaller FOV.
as someone who can’t even interpret visual content, I don’t care, but in my brain, I feel like higher resolution but smaller FOV is going to lead to a worse experience.

I hoped someone had made this point already.

A product that shipped about 18 months ago *might* be surpassed in *one* regard by a product that *might* ship later this year?

Knock me over with a feather.
 


Samsung's upcoming AR/VR headset will feature more advanced displays than Apple's Vision Pro, according to a new supply chain report from The Elec that reveals key specifications and sourcing strategies.

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Samsung is preparing to launch its first extended reality (XR) headset later in 2025, and it will reportedly contain displays that surpass the resolution of Apple's Vision Pro. The Elec claims that the device will use 1.3-inch OLEDoS (OLED on Silicon) microdisplays with a pixel density of approximately 3,800 pixels per inch (PPI).

In comparison, the Vision Pro uses 1.42-inch OLEDoS panels from Sony with a pixel density of 3,391 PPI. The increase in pixel density will likely represent a significant improvement in visual clarity over the Vision Pro. Despite having a slightly smaller panel, which could reduce the field of view, Samsung's headset should be able to deliver sharper visuals.

The Vision Pro was the first mainstream consumer device to adopt OLEDoS microdisplays. OLEDoS technology allows for extremely high resolution in compact form factors, making it particularly suitable for immersive virtual reality applications.

Samsung is apparently reviewing plans to source OLEDoS panels from both Sony and Samsung Display, with Sony currently acting as the main supplier. While Sony is recognized for its expertise in microdisplay manufacturing, it has limited its production capacity and previously declined Apple's request to expand output for the Vision Pro. Sony's focus remains centered on its entertainment business, and it is reportedly cautious about committing additional resources to its display operations.

Article Link: Samsung's Headset to Offer Better Displays Than Apple Vision Pro

forever copycat
 
I am skeptical that this will make any difference at all really. Once you reach a certain pixel density, it doesn't make a difference going beyond that.
Sure, but the Vision Pro isn't at that density yet (as even the MacRumors show conceded).
 
walso, I could be wrong here, but one of the highly criticized part of the Apple Vision Pro was the FOV not being big enough, and it sounds like these Samsung headsets will have… An even smaller FOV.
On the other hand, this might mean that the increased PPI results in an even higher PPD.
 
I doubt that the issue with Vision Pro is the quality of the built-in displays.
tried it myself, was truly amazing. but I don't need such a device.

as of the glasses form factor: I need to wear glasses when reading or working on my computer, but I take them off whenever I don't need them. no way I'm gonna wear anything similar unless I have to. as of now I can live my life w/o the seemingly unnecessary information pushed into my face/sight.
 
Samsung is so obsessed with copying every move Apple makes, that they seem to have missed the part where most people don't care about these headsets in the slightest. Strange business strategy IMO
it's still the future of tech and the only electronics I find exciting to use anymore.
 
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Waiting to see the device from Samsung and especially how it is going to be priced. Think availability of this device also will be extremely limited at launch.
 
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Not sure a ~12% increase in PPI can reasonably be called a "significant improvement in visual clarity."
It's an extra 125 pixels in each direction. If my math is right, Samsung is showing 24.4 million pixels: (3800 x 1.3")^2, Apple is showing 23.18 million pixels: (3391 x 1.42)^2. It's barely 5%.
 
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So better in one way worse in another....headline reads like a Samsung site.

Not sure if the AVP isn't making alot of money why Samsung is making one. Apple showed how to do it but why bother? I love the AVP but it's not selling alot.
 
I am skeptical that this will make any difference at all really. Once you reach a certain pixel density, it doesn't make a difference going beyond that.
No doubt true, but are we there yet? Genuine question, I haven't used a Vision Pro.

Wish Valve would hurry up with their new headset anyway.
 
First the displays were one of Apple's most expensive parts, so having even more expensive displays just seems like d*ck swinging. Secondly, the issue with the Vision Pro isn't the displays, it's that the camera passthrough is not high enough resolution. Passthrough is the problem, not the displays.
 
PPI doesn’t make sense in VR. The right criteria is PPD, so it takes in consideration the result on the eyes.
I think I did some napkin maths ages ago and came out at about 60 PPD to be considered “retina” by the old Steve Jobs iPhone 4 standard.

Oh wait, the wiki article on 'retina' terminology has a more accurate calculation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_display 52–63 PPD
 
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Honestly I think it will have higher resolution displays, and I know that the next Apple Vision will have the same displays, and Apple will gaslight us into thinking that "Oh, the human eye can’t see more pixels anyway." same excuse different product
 
What pixels in the VisionPro? There are no visible pixels. And a reduced FOV is just, what we do not need in „more sophisticated” glasses.

And: more pixels (you cannot see) will need more computing power, you will remark in battery consumption.
 
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Somehow I cannot see how a 12% increase in pixel density will result in "a significant improvement in visual clarity"...

Whether your 13" MacBook Air display has 2560 pixels horizontally (as currently) or gets 2867 pixels (if made by Samsung) makes very little difference I assume. The picture quality would not improve in any big shape or form, I doubt most people would even notice.

I bet the small DPI increase was only done so that Samsung can finally get some bragging rights against Apple.
But in reality it will make little to no difference.
In reality, there's not much difference, because Samsung's panels are smaller 1.3" vs 1.42". I you do the math based on proportions, the difference is only 88 pixels.
A smaller panel would require a stronger magnifying lens, which increases the possibility of distortion. Considering that fact, the extra 88 pixels make no real impact.
And in the end, it still is Samsung... mediocre stuff.
 
I am skeptical that this will make any difference at all really. Once you reach a certain pixel density, it doesn't make a difference going beyond that.
This might be true but you’d also need to consider the distance at which the content is being viewed. These screens are essentially right up against your eyes.
 
I am skeptical that this will make any difference at all really. Once you reach a certain pixel density, it doesn't make a difference going beyond that.
I was just about to say. At this point the Vision Pro visuals are so sharp it will be hard to tell the difference in a higher quality display. I don’t think I’ve heard a single person complained about visual quality sharpness. Samsung at the point is only doing this to boast, it’s a numbers game.
 
I think I did some napkin maths ages ago and came out at about 60 ppd to be considered “retina” by the old Steve Jobs iPhone 4 standard.

Oh wait, the wiki article on 'retina' terminology has a more accurate calculation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_display 52–63 PPD
And as you mentioned, that is based on the Steve Jobs iPhone 4 standard. The article you linked to has some interesting links on the differing views on the limit of human vision, which can put the limit up to 150 PPD.

The Apple Retina term is based on 20/20 vision. There is a common misconception that 20/20 means perfect vision, when it actually means average vision.
 
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3400 PPI vs 3800 PPI is not going to be a "significant improvement" - I'd guess it will be hard to actually tell the difference :)
 
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