Wait, you're telling me the document says "Hey, this might be taken as copying the iPhone, we should change it" ? So the document is in fact doing the opposite, saying "Let's not copy the iPhone" ?
And you don't know where I'm coming from ?
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Samsung's Massive Document Outlining How to Improve Galaxy S by Adopting iPhone Solutions Surfaces
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Wait, you're telling me the document says "Hey, this might be taken as copying the iPhone, we should change it" ? So the document is in fact doing the opposite, saying "Let's not copy the iPhone" ?
And you don't know where I'm coming from ?
If those are "almost exactly" the same to you, then I'm sorry to say we can never agree. Those 2 screens are worlds part to me.
It's funny how all those arguing samsungs case are focusing on the page about button sizes and not the other 125 comparisons.
All these people screaming that Apple stole notifications from Android are spewing nonsense. Apple "stole" that from the jailbreak/hacking community. Before Droid was even a name, I knew plenty of people who had jailbroken phones that did the notification center+ (3G off and on, and much more from there).
Check the Samsung design documents from WAY before the iPhone was made public, which conveniently the Apple Lawyers got excluded from the process.
You honestly think that Apple, the largest company in the world, hasn't been rewarded in financial kind for what they have done?
Thats perfect.
The more internal comms that show up on either side of this trial, the more I think its April Fools Day everytime, theres no way it could be real.
I honestly thought Samsung would have an actual defense, or that it wasn't as bad as it seemed.
Well I'm talking about this specific evidence, yes that's all they did. I'm sure they did it with every aspect and just submitted the least important features. Cause if they worked to do this, I can't imagine what they drew out for other major functions.
If the decisions/solutions are obvious why reference the iPhone at all? Why not should a mock-up of improved UI based on these obvious truths?
why should a call screen on modern touch phones differ much more than the keypad on a regular (old) phone or a keyboard etc?
if samsungs team thought that apple´s implementation was the best should that be ignored
And there factory beats children, unlike Apple's Foxconn Factory (harsh but no beatings).
One at a time .... or are you admitting the OP's example is NOT a rip off of Apple (in which case I can go through the same process for the other 100+ items).
Especially considering the fact that their Mac OS platform had a 3rd party application (growl) that works similarly to the Android (and IOS, and now MacOS) notification system.
I am of the opinion (Note the word opinion) that Android notifications are an improvement of that desktop system addition, or others like it.
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Note I am not defending Apple, nor berating Android, just pointing out the possible 'prior art' here.
For the same reason any company looks at the competition.
Remember when Apple was designing their antennas for the Iphone 4.
Remember how they were comparing their products in the LAB with other phone's performance.
Remember how they even used that information, complete with competitor phones - in the release presentations.
It meant Apple was looking at the competition, it didn't mean they were stealing antenna designs.
I used to own the Galaxy S, it was a great phone but in fact one of the reasons I bought it was due to the similarity of the iPhone, I wanted an android phone and checked out some models, and the Galaxy S was so similar to the iPhone that I ended up with that and was pleased. There's no question about it, the Galaxy S is a complete copy of the iPhone 3GS.
Good luck getting the made in America A5X processor made by Samsung.
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Samsungs main argument seems to be that Apples design choices are inevitable. Things look, behave and are shaped in a way that is the only logical form/shape/size/reaction/colour and should therefore not be copyrighted.
It just doesn't hold water.
And the evidence comes from a very surprising front. Microsoft. Their Metro/Surface/Win8 UI and design takes a different approach. And succeeds. They have actually been able to come up with their own stuff. Far different from the stuff coming out of Apple. Kudos to them.
Samsung needs to invent themselves. Currently they are nothing but 2nd rate copy-cats.
It just doesn't hold water.
And the evidence comes from a very surprising front. Microsoft. Their Metro/Surface/Win8 UI and design takes a different approach. And succeeds. They have actually been able to come up with their own stuff. Far different from the stuff coming out of Apple. Kudos to them.
Samsung needs to invent themselves. Currently they are nothing but 2nd rate copy-cats.
At the very least, it proves that everyone looks to Apple when it comes to innovation. Apple may have took some features from Android, but Apple does those features better in the end. Whereas Samsung is executing these features worse than Apple and looking for some direction.
I'm sorry, but you're spouting some absolute rubbish on here.
Samsung used an in-depth review of the iPhone's OS to directly compare how their system works and make recommendations based on the strengths of the iPhone's operating system.
Forgetting everything else, that is a fact and in my (and many other people's) opinion is definitely not cool.
Ok, isn't this normal? I mean, sure it makes Samsung look bad...but unless these specific UI elements are patented, where's the legal issue with this? Is this one of the contested aspects of the patent infringement?
Exactly what makes it not cool? I see this as something akin to football teams watching competing teams tapes to develop a strategy against them. Unless they are copying a patented UI element, I see nothing here except the underdog aknowledging the top dog and doing everything they can to improve their game.
Exactly what makes it not cool? I see this as something akin to football teams watching competing teams tapes to develop a strategy against them. Unless they are copying a patented UI element, I see nothing here except the underdog aknowledging the top dog and doing everything they can to improve their game.