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Source? I think Samsung makes the best quality screens...or Apple would have just gone straight LG for the displays.
Apple is playing it smart...they have 2 suppliers and are investing in one to help it catch up to the other. This is done to help with future contract negotiations. They will always have 2 suppliers...it is good business to have some redundancy.

http://www.androidauthority.com/google-apple-rumored-invest-lgs-oled-operation-784565/

That's as close as I get to a source.
 
Source? I think Samsung makes the best quality screens...or Apple would have just gone straight LG for the displays.
Apple is playing it smart...they have 2 suppliers and are investing in one to help it catch up to the other. This is done to help with future contract negotiations. They will always have 2 suppliers...it is good business to have some redundancy.

My bad, 96.7%

According to Ubi Research, OLED panel shipments for smartphones in the second quarter of 2017 were 96.3 million units, up 2.6% from 92.9 million units in the same period last year.

Compared to the previous quarter (94.7 million units), it increased by 0.6%

Samsung Display has a market share of 96.7% in the second quarter of 2017 and is the number one player in the small and medium sized OLED market. Galaxy S8 and S8 + are showing robust sales, and Samsung Display’s small to medium sized OLED market is expected to continue to remain strong for the time being with OLED adoption of Galaxy Note 8 and some models of the iPhone 8.

http://www.olednet.com/en/2q-oled-panel-shipments-continued-rise_en/
 

And?

You mean the same way that Apple was demolished for overpriced iPhones?

"Lol, wut?"o_O:p:D
-said by someone at Apple probably

Overpriced according to whom? Evidently over 200 million people and growing disagree with your assessment every year. They're worth many times what I pay for them to me, and you couldn't pay me what they cost to use something else instead. Who is anyone else to tell me I'm wrong for my own use cases?
 
Theres a difference between a legislated monopoly, and one that's created by a company ability to create a product more efficiently. If this pricing is true, Samsung is being really stupid, and as Apple's investment in LG will indicate, they will not hold that 'monopoly' for very long. Markets always demolish companies who try to operate with outsized gross profit margins, and if what this article says is true, that'll happen here too.
Its happening to Apple's iPhone monopoly too. They price themselves out of the market. Huawei, xaomi are eating Apple's lunch in China and India.
 
It's funny to hear that Samsung has the monopoly on OLED displays, but in the TV world, I only see LG OLED giant flatscreens advertised everywhere.

Still not sure on the longevity of the OLED technology. My understanding is that while yes, it's got the amazingly awesome blacks and subsequently high dynamic range, it's physical life span is much shorter than current LCD/LED displays.
 
Avoiding this phone is the best thing you could ever do for your pocket book. I thought I would be ripe for an upgrade from my 6s, but its working just fine, so, I'm probably gonna wait until 2019 to 2020 to upgrade. Will get an iPad Pro to tide me over until then.
 

Whereas Samsung's Note 8 display is the first ever a+ award winning hdr premium DCI and Adobe colour gamut display...

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AMOLED Photo Screen Mode with a Very Accurate Standard Adobe RGB Color Gamut

Most high-end digital cameras have an option to use the Adobe RGB Color Gamut, which is 17 percent larger than the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut used in consumer cameras. The AMOLED Photo screen mode on the Galaxy Note8 provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration to the Adobe RGB standard, which is rarely available in consumers displays, and is very useful for high-end digital photography and other advanced imaging applications.


The measured Color Gamut of the AMOLED Photo screen mode is a very accurate 100 percent of the Standard Adobe RGB Color Gamut, and the measured Absolute Color Accuracy is a very accurate 3.3 JNCD. See the Color Accuracy section and the detailed Color Accuracy Plots for the measurements and details. Select the AMOLED Photo screen mode using Display Settings – it is not the default screen mode for the Galaxy Note8.

A new larger full 100% DCI-P3 Color Gamut and Digital Cinema mode that is also used for 4K Ultra HD TVs, so the Galaxy Note8 can display the latest high-end 4K video content. The DCI-P3 Gamut is 26 percent larger than the Rec.709 Gamut that is used in 2K Full HD TVs.


· The Galaxy Note8 is certified by the UHD Alliance for Mobile HDR Premium, which allows the Galaxy Note8 to play the same 4K High Dynamic Range content produced for 4K UHD PremiumTVs.


· A larger Native Color Gamut with a new high saturation “Deep Red” OLED, resulting in a very impressive 112% of DCI-P3 and 141% of sRGB / Rec.709 Gamuts that also provides much better on-screen Colors in High Ambient Light.


· A 3K Higher Resolution 2960 x 1440 Quad HD+ display with 521 pixels per inch, and Diamond Pixels with Sub-Pixel Rendering.


· A Video Enhancer that provides HDR-like Expanded Dynamic Range for all videos that don’t have HDR coding.


· A record high Peak Display Brightness of over 1,200 nits, which improves screen visibility in very high Ambient Light, and provides the high screen Brightness needed for HDR.


· Front and back Dual Ambient Light Sensors for significantly improved Automatic Brightness settings.


· A Night Mode with a Blue Light Filter that allows the user to adjust and reduce the amount of blue light from the display for better night viewing and improved sleep.


· A user Adjustable White Point with Color Balance slider controls that can change the color of White for the Adaptive Display screen mode.


· An Always On Display mode and Personalized Auto Brightness Control.


· Small Color Shifts and Brightness Shifts with Viewing Angle.


· The Galaxy Note8 can be used with Polarized Sunglasses in both the Portrait and Landscape orientations unlike LCDs, which generally work in only one of the two orientations.


· A new and even stronger curved Gorilla Glass 5 protecting the display.

Native Color Gamut (112% DCI-P3 and 141% sRGB / Rec.709).


· Highest Peak Display Brightness (1,240 nits).


· Highest Contrast Rating in Ambient Light (270).


· Highest Screen Resolution 3K (2960x1440).


· Highest Contrast Ratio (Infinite).


· Lowest Screen Reflectance (4.6 percent).


· Smallest Brightness Variation with Viewing Angle (29 percent).
 
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It's funny to hear that Samsung has the monopoly on OLED displays, but in the TV world, I only see LG OLED giant flatscreens advertised everywhere.

Still not sure on the longevity of the OLED technology. My understanding is that while yes, it's got the amazingly awesome blacks and subsequently high dynamic range, it's physical life span is much shorter than current LCD/LED displays.

The lifespan of OLED displays is ~14,000 hours...you'll already be onto the iPhone 13 by the time the screen starts to degrade.
 
Interesting. By my math, that should yield iPhones starting at around $725, not $1000.
The cheapest + model is what? 780$? Considering they won't have the basic storage and start the 8's with 64 or 128 gig I can see them starting at 850 for a 64 gig 950 128 and 1050 for 256. Not sure they would release a 512gig phone for 1150.
 
Dumb of Apple to think of launching an OLED phone when everyone knows there is only a single supplier, they should have invested in the machinery earlier
 
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No problem. Half way through the quarter switch to LCD and clam it makes no difference. Keep the price the same of course. If HTC can do it so can Apple.
 
Overpriced according to whom? Evidently over 200 million people and growing disagree with your assessment every year. They're worth many times what I pay for them to me, and you couldn't pay me what they cost to use something else instead. Who is anyone else to tell me I'm wrong for my own use cases?
Uh... I'm guessing this was for ahireasu. There's nothing in my quote about overpriced. Slightly confused.
 
Apple doesn't have much to leverage if Samsung is the only company that can produce the panel needed for the iPhone.

And Apple has two companies that can make the chips for a lot of iOS devices. I recall Apple recently inked a deal with Samsung to exclusively fab an upcoming Axx.
 
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No and they should not have absolute rule over OLED.
They don't, it's just they were the company who really pushed the technology from niche to mainstream. Can you think of any other that did as much as Samsung to not just R&D the technology to overcome early issues and improve its qualities, but actually use it in products? They are where they are now because they put the effort in, without Samsung's efforts, Apple probably wouldn't be about to launch an oled phone full stop. Apple are choosing to go with Samsung, most likely because they are the ones that can produce the quality panels they want, not because they've been forced to at gunpoint! ;)
 
Samsung have used OLED since the first Galaxy
Yep they have and some of the die hard Apple fans called it inferior to what Apple was using :rolleyes: Now Apple will market it as their best iPhone screen ever and supercharge their loyal customers extra for it. I wonder where all those Chinese brands are getting their Amoled displays from. The whole iPhone is getting long in the tooth. Not only the hardware but software too.
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Is that you Tim? Trying to blame the high price on a supplier, lol.
Lol, this is so funny. Where do all these Chinese brands get their Amoled displays from? How come they charge half the price for better specs and better looking phones these days. I'm convinced 2017 will be remembered as the year iPhone is yesterday news.
 
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It's funny to hear that Samsung has the monopoly on OLED displays, but in the TV world, I only see LG OLED giant flatscreens advertised everywhere.

Still not sure on the longevity of the OLED technology. My understanding is that while yes, it's got the amazingly awesome blacks and subsequently high dynamic range, it's physical life span is much shorter than current LCD/LED displays.

LG makes a majority of the OLED TV, but those are a tiny part of the market. Samsung makes and sells the most OLED due to smartphones.
 
LG makes a majority of the OLED TV, but those are a tiny part of the market. Samsung makes and sells the most OLED due to smartphones.

Correct LG does not sell enough OLED TVs to even get a taste of the major profits Samsung earns from it's AMOLED display technology. Almost every phone with OLED is supplied by Samsung including the Oneplus5 and Asus devices except the LG V30 and the upcoming Pixel XL 2. All of those Chinese vendors are purchasing their tech from Samsung as well.

Also Samsung has several generations of this technology. The older generation amoleds are being sold for much cheaper. Knowing Apple, they did not purchase the absolute best AMOLED panel so they can ensure a high profit margin. They will market it like it is the best and give Samsung no props. Still the panel Apple purchased has to be at least as capable as the S7 based on Apple's strict requirements.

The great thing about AMOLED panels in the past three years is that they can be calibrated to be spot on accurate and no longer have to have that saturated look of the past. They also have a wider color gamut and can cover the full DCI P3 color space while providing HDR capabilities and the most accurate color available to date. The note 8 reportedly has over 200% sRGB support, 1200 nits max brightness, and 100% DCI P3 wide color gamut support. It's crazy ridiculous and amazing, but Apple fans should be absolutely happy with Samsung's technology in their phone.

I'm sure Apple will calibrate it with the basic standard mode and add true tone and fans will be like Wow and try to say it has increased brightness in comparison to other companies since that can be calibrated as well on the newer generation AMOLED panels of the past 3 years.
 
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Correct LG does not sell enough OLED TVs to even get a taste of the major profits Samsung earns from it's AMOLED display technology. Almost every phone with OLED is supplied by Samsung including the Oneplus5 and Asus devices except the LG V30 and the upcoming Pixel XL 2. All of those Chinese vendors are purchasing their tech from Samsung as well.

Also Samsung has several generations of this technology. The older generation amoleds are being sold for much cheaper. Knowing Apple, they did not purchase the absolute best AMOLED panel so they can ensure a high profit margin. They will market it like it is the best and give Samsung no props.

Nowhere to hide in this case when Displaymate tests the iphone display
 
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