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Actually, if you look at his/her post history, they're a pretty loyal Apple user who usually mocks Samsung.

Nothing quite like the sheer stupidity of a rabid Apple fan attacking his own group if they dare to say anything non-negative about Apple competition.

This whole thread reeks of immature responses.

Sounds like the similar type of posts on any forum dedicated to a specific brand or OS.
 
Why does the profit share matter at all?
The users (or former users) of Blackberry, Palm and Nokia and Windows phone could probably best answer that for you
Is that metric even backed up by anything substantial?
Well no one knows what would be "substantial"to you, but here are a few links for you to pursue and pick apart at your lesiure: apple makes 90% of smartphone profits
Even if it were true that Apple makes 90% of the profit, that mainly tells me that Apple's smartphone products are grossly overpriced, and in any case it doesn't paint a pretty picture about its customers.
Opinion, supposition, deflection; irealevant to the question "Why does marketshare matter when your company is making 90% of the profits for the entire market?"
 
Yep.. Samsung recall as the only thing that could be direct plummet... (probably a strong word to use). "Decline' sounds better.
 
The users (or former users) of Blackberry, Palm and Nokia and Windows phone could probably best answer that for you
What do Blackberry etc have anything to do with it? Are you trying to suggest that Samsung/Google/Huawei are about to exit the smartphone business because of lack of profit, or what?

Well no one knows what would be "substantial"to you, but here are a few links for you to pursue and pick apart at your lesiure: apple makes 90% of smartphone profits
A lot of links pointing to little more than an urban myth. Unsubstantiated junk. I'm sure that Samsung is more than happy to report a loss-per-phone, when in reality they're raking it in. Including on components used by other companies, Apple included.

Opinion, supposition, deflection; irealevant to the question "Why does marketshare matter when your company is making 90% of the profits for the entire market?"
It does matter. Even 90% of nothing is nothing. Apple's smartphone share market is going only one way.
 
We need Samsung to push Apple to innovate top-of-the-market smartphones,

Otherwise we all get stuck with marginal improvements, commodity phones.
 
Why does marketshare matter when your company is making 90% of the profits for the entire market?
Because along with market share, profits and revenue have also dropped this quarter. I suppose that doesn't matter either. Once a company starts to lose its momentum, there's only one way it goes...
 
A lot of links pointing to little more than an urban myth. Unsubstantiated junk. I'm sure that Samsung is more than happy to report a loss-per-phone, when in reality they're raking it in. Including on components used by other companies, Apple included.
http://fortune.com/2016/02/14/apple-mobile-profit-2015/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-share-of-smartphone-industrys-profits-soars-to-92-1436727458


Unsubstantiated?
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Because along with market share, profits and revenue have also dropped this quarter. I suppose that doesn't matter either. Once a company starts to lose its momentum, there's only one way it goes...
You really don't think the completely revamped iPhone is going to move less iPhones next year?

Platitudes are meaningless.
 
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What do Blackberry etc have anything to do with it? Are you trying to suggest that Samsung/Google/Huawei are about to exit the smartphone business because of lack of profit, or what?
The response was to this question and this question only:
Why does the profit share matter at all?
Unless you been living under a rock the last several years it should be pretty obvious why those companies were mentioned in lieu of your question.
No reference to Samsung/Google/Huawei was implied or inferred by the response.
A lot of links pointing to little more than an urban myth. Unsubstantiated junk. I'm sure that Samsung is more than happy to report a loss-per-phone, when in reality they're raking it in. Including on components used by other companies, Apple included.
More supposition and opinion, there fore can be discarded as irrelevant.
It does matter. Even 90% of nothing is nothing. Apple's smartphone share market is going only one way.
More deflection and opinion.
Would guess this makes sense to you and you only since you posted it.[/QUOTE]
 
It would be nice if we could communicate with the parallel universe in which the iPhone 7 included a headphone jack and compare sales figures.
 
Because along with market share, profits and revenue have also dropped this quarter. I suppose that doesn't matter either.
Samsung seems to have rebounded from their dismal 2014 year:
After dismal 2014, Samsung Electronics charts recovery with new Galaxy phones
Once a company starts to lose its momentum, there's only one way it goes...
Seems like Apple has been down that road once before and managed to turn it around, therefore one can only conclude that your opinion doesn't hold water.
 
220 units exploded among 1.59 million Note 7 (original model).
119 units exploded among 1.47 million Note 7 safe (recalled model), Samsung said today.

220 too many
119 too many
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It would be nice if we could communicate with the parallel universe in which the iPhone 7 included a headphone jack and compare sales figures.

No need to contact anybody as it is obvious tat the smartphone markets are saturated to a point where people realize they do not need a new phone once a year or even every 2 years.

This trend will continue. Not too much left to put into these phones.

There, did that without market research or being an analyst.
 
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The story here isn't the decline of Samsung market share, it's the rise of the Chinese manufacturers. Both of the big players, Apple and Samsung, declined in market share, as did "other". All of the growth was the three smaller players on the list.

This is good for the Android platform over all-- the whole Android model has been that it's "open" and can be run on a variety of handsets. That model breaks down when there's only one dominant supplier. Having a mix like this will help keep Android viable.
 
Wait.....but apple have been doing that for years , it's the most closed ecosystem.

And who is actually innovating ? Cause I see all the major operating systems stealing each other's ideas. Android and iOS have been copying each other for years....or they are stealing the ideas from smaller companies which they just purchase .

Look at Siri , all started off as an independent company and and everyone had ripped them off. This is the majority of innovation recently.
Yes, it also sucks that Apple's ecosystem is closed. Yes, nobody has been innovating on smartphones recently because it all happened in 2007-2009. Apple made the iPhone, then everyone made knockoffs.
 
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220 units exploded among 1.59 million Note 7 (original model).
119 units exploded among 1.47 million Note 7 safe (recalled model), Samsung said today.

Samsung didn't say that those many "exploded". Instead, those were the number of reports of overheating or fire.
  • Out of 220 reports of overheating or fires with the original phones, they've been able to investigate 117 so far, of which 85 (almost 73% of reports) were real cases of overheating or fire.
  • Out of 119 reports of overheating or fires with the replacement phones, they've investigated 90, of which 55 (only 46% of reports) were actual cases of overheating or fire.
Still a lot, of course.

On a related note (pun?), I've been looking through the CPSC reports, and 20-25% of the Note 7 consumer reports were not actually about fires per se, but were reports of having problems getting a replacement... people claiming that they had bought their Notes used from places like Craigslist, that the unit burned and was thrown away, and thus they had no proof of purchase. Not even photos of a burned unit. They want the CPSC to make Samsung give them a phone.
 
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Well Samsung was making 6 billion profit a quarter so I suspect there will still be a bit of that left after the note 7 expenses are taken away...

Plus.. what a weird thing to say, would you be happy if every other company folded. Leaving no competition. Innovation would die and prices would sky rocket. What a dumb thing to say!!
Whatever shuts the android fanboys up.

Do athletes stop competing just because you have Usain Bolt? He utterly trashes everyone when it comes to sprinting, and it's just so fun to see one man being so good at the sport and dominating over everyone else.

If the other smartphone companies folded and collapsed, it would simply be because they were no longer capable of competing meaningfully. It's just the natural order the business. The consumers have spoken, and decided who should stay and who should go.
 
No joke. I have a 6S and thought the 7 was completely underwhelming and not worth the update. Still has huge bezels, physical size is still the same (needs to be smaller), screen res is still the same, doesn't have a jack (I'm a proponent for the removal of the jack but it's still a downgrade all the same), water resistance doesn't really bother me at all, and the camera is too small a difference to really notice.

I get that it's better, but it was still a paltry upgrade.

I don't' agree with you at all, but it's a boring argument. It's just as big an upgrade as between every iPhone so far - it's much more enjoyable to me than my 6s.
 
Thanks to Note 7 fiasco, customers will be weary of buying Samsung new products. You'll be an idiot otherwise.

With Google Pixel, why choose other premium Android phone?

Good luck to Samsung.
 
what amazes me is that there are still people who staunchly defend Samsung, despite not only creating phones that are dangerous, but also washing machines that are dangerous. Now, I understand that everyone makes mistakes, but making products that catch fire... not cool. Samsung will not suffer from this set back, because like Apple, they have fan boys (and girls).
Are they defending Samsung for the Note 7, or just in general? For me, the Galaxy s2 and Galaxy s4 were phenomenal phones. I don't "condone" their Note 7.

Given all of the commentary of the newly released MacBook Pros, it's like those laptops may as well exploded on them too.
 
I really started to feel bad for Samsung. Note7 was the 2016 smartphone in my heart, my mind, and my dreams. I had a rollercoaster of emotions from excitement to fear to sadness. I don't believe that was their intention to have Note7 "spontaneously combust" into flames like that. I don't believe their intention was to hurt anyone. They made a mistake by rushing it and they either can move on from it or they won't.

Kobe Bryant was once accused of rape. LeBron James was ridiculed for The Decision. They are both worshipped now. You can be a villain or hero overnight in this comic-book world we live in. What companies need to do to test their mettle is take all the negativity and use it as fuel for motivation. Take the negative and turn it into a positive. Apple almost went bankrupt 20 years ago and look where they are now.

Some people hate Samsung smartphones which is fine but there are a lot of people who still have Samsung products in their house. We have two Samsung TVs, a microwave, and a cooking range. All our phones have Samsung components inside them including the SoC and memory. I was surprised to see the internal storage inside my LG is manufactured by Samsung. That's like Nintendo making components for Sega 25 years ago.

Hoping the best for Samsung. They will recover.
 
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Why does the profit share matter at all? Is that metric even backed up by anything substantial? For huge companies like Google, Samsung, Huawei etc it's very hard to discern how much profit they make on selling a single phone, at least from the public filings. This information can be well hidden and actually very hard to compute to begin with.

Even if it were true that Apple makes 90% of the profit, that mainly tells me that Apple's smartphone products are grossly overpriced, and in any case it doesn't paint a pretty picture about its customers.
Profits are what pay the bills, and make a company decide if they should stick around or pack up and leave. How do you think Apple is able to maintain its own processor design department, as well as compete in non-spec differentiation such as force touch? All these are certainly not cheap, and made possible only because the iPhone is as profitable as it is.

To me, it's a virtuous cycle. As Apple continues to be profitable, it has more resources with which to funnel into continued R&D of more features for the iPhone. Features that will improve the user experience.

I don't see anything wrong with Apple's immense profits. For one, nobody is twisting your arm and forcing you to buy an iPhone. That many consumers continue to do so, despite the iPhone's high selling price, is simply proof that the iphone continues to offer great value despite this high price, or perhaps, because of it.
 
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