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Still no love for new displays and a Mac Pro. The spec's for a late-2013 Mac Pro starting around $4K are embarrassing (4096x2160 at 24 Hz, 3840x2160 at 30 Hz via HDMI), with limited SST and MST display support. My "current gen" $6k+ 8-Core Mac Pro6,1 with 32GB's RAM and dual D700's can't even support "pro" level dual/tri display setups without adapters.

Numerous display prototypes have been in production with the possibility of returning to a full display lineup again (re: CCFL 20"/23"/30" Cinema Displays circa 2004), yet it's always been a "maybe". Ironically, many on the design teams are using some prototypes for daily work. Cooks decision (not Jobs') to drop the full CCFL display line in '08 for a single 24" then 27" LED LCD display using the then current gen iMac LG or Sharp LED panel was purely profit driven. We already had the panels and form factor, using USB 2.0 ports and cables too short to reach a desktop system added insult to injury.

The false notion that the "pro" market is niche irks me. The amount of money studio's, professional photographers (Annie Leibovitz would drop an easy 6 figures a year), etc. spent annually on hardware (30" displays, PowerMac's/Mac Pro's/etc) and editing suite licenses was substantial. Many erroneously assumed the pro market was small and thus lacked demand and profit.

Two things wrong with this misinformed belief:

1. Studio's and pro's invested substantially in annual systems and "pro"-grade editing suites (FCP7, Aperture, etc)
2. Cutting "Pro" line systems and editing suites first then claiming the market wasn't profitable after the fact is ludicrous.

Demand was always there. Studio's invested elsewhere after the fact and their annual marketshare sum was substantial. Apple dropped the ball. They have succeeded in the consumer markets yet lost a substantial amount in professional markets. They drove those to other platforms and suites, and the time and money invested in switching will not bring those back given Apple's current focus. They shot themselves in the foot and claimed the market was the reason, it wasn't. Market saturation and a severely outdated Mac line have investors worried about Apple's future, especially pushing into new markets in China and India in which sales are far below projected conservative estimates.

Cook needs to revisit Jobs' "Quadrant" as product fragmentation within our R&D divisions would make John Sculley proud. Focus and innovation are lacking and it's disconcerting for many of us.
 
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Forget the adapter—what display is that? It looks like some kind of Dell. They've really stepped up their design game. But am I correct to assume that it's mostly plastic?

It's a shame that we've got these shiny outdated Macs and no Apple branded display to plug them into. It's almost as if the Mac is dying or something. Please don't do this Tim.

As much as I love my iPhone and iPad, and talk about them at great length, I'd never trade my Mac for them completely. I talk so much about iOS and related devices and wearables because I still see potential to maximize and I'm trying to do my very small part to steer things in the proper direction. The Mac is less exciting because it's pretty much good as-is. Just about all I've ever wanted from my Mac for the past several years is more speed and better connectivity with my iOS stuff. The Mac is the backbone of my daily life and I get most of my work done on it. It can't go away. It just can't. Sorry to get sidetracked on that but I'm just feeling kind of crap today.
 
Maybe this one won't be a piece of junk like the Apple one is. I've been through three and there's been little improvement, and had a Genius quietly admit under his breath that it was a "junk product". The reviews back me up on that.
 
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Satechi today announced an expansion of its Type-C accessory line, introducing the new Slim 4K Multi-Port USB-C Adapter. The Slim Multi-Port Adapter is designed to add multiple extra port connections to a laptop or desktop along with 4K support.

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The adapter, which has a sleek aluminum design and comes in colors to match Apple's MacBook line (Rose Gold, Gold, Silver, and Space Gray), features a 4K HDMI port able to output video from a computer to a 4K monitor.

The Slim 4K Multi-Port Adapter also includes two standard USB-A ports and it supports passthrough charging, so multiple devices can be connected to a 12-inch MacBook while it is also charging.

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Satechi is selling the Slim 4K Multi-Port Adapter starting today. It can be purchased from the Satechi website for $59.99.

Article Link: Satechi Debuts New Slim 4K Multi-Port USB-C Adapter
I like this.. I've been using the USB camera adapter on the iPad pro a lot (with its power passthrough etc) and I actually really like having the ports outside of the device itself. The smaller and lighter the machine the nicer it is to offload the ports to an external gizmo. Cables going into the main device make things more unwieldy imo, and different people would want different ones anyway.
 
I get that, but at the same time it's frustrating that the ONLY lightweight retina display Mac laptop to date is this hyperminimalist thing which is riddled with compromises. If there existed the equivalent of a MacBook Air Retina (slightly thicker/heavier than this, more ports), nobody would care about this one machine. But as it is now, the only other option if you want a retina display is to bump to to a much heavier Pro, and that's irritating.
There are many vocal people who think the MBP is too thin. If one were to follow everybody's wishes, there would need to be at least four Mac laptop lines: MB One, something between MB One and MBP, MBP, something above MBP.
 
The Mac is the backbone of my daily life and I get most of my work done on it. It can't go away. It just can't. Sorry to get sidetracked on that but I'm just feeling kind of crap today.

Completely agreed, I am on the same boat as you. So, thanks for getting sidetracked to this important topic.
 
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Guess soon we will see monitors with a Type-C port and those can then also provide additional USB ports and power for the Mac. One cable, no adapters.

I see it already exists. The LG 27UD88-W offers it for instance (but has some limitations).
Display 4K video, transfer data and charge a laptop or mobile device, all at the same time using a single cable with USB-C™.

But this is the way to go. If Apple brings us new displays, that's what I would expect to see.
 
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Still no love for new displays and a Mac Pro. The spec's for a late-2013 Mac Pro starting around $4K are embarrassing (4096x2160 at 24 Hz, 3840x2160 at 30 Hz via HDMI), with limited SST and MST display support. My "current gen" $6k+ 8-Core Mac Pro6,1 with 32GB's RAM and dual D700's can't even support "pro" level dual/tri display setups without adapters.....

Extremely well thought out and intelligent post...but what does this have to do with a USB-C Adapter for a Macbook?
 
Completely agreed, I am on the same boat as you. So, thanks for getting sidetracked to this important topic.
After writing that I read this pretty good story on Six Colors that referenced Mark Gurman talking about Mac hardware updates. Seems like he was behind some of the rumors about the new 5K external displays with graphics cards. I haven't followed him as closely since he left 9to5Mac, but let me tell you, he's almost always right. I worked with him for a little while in college while at 9to5Mac writing some stories. In the end I decided it really wasn't my thing, as I had trouble keeping up with all the writers aggressively going after the big stories. I'm more the type who likes to sit back and let everything sink in and then process it and write about it more deeply. I've toyed around with the idea of just writing my own blog, similar to Daring Fireball, where I can structure my ideas a lot more clearly than I do in random forum posts around here. Anyway, Gurman has an amazing track record. It was always fun seeing what he was cooking up before it was posted.

So yeah, I do feel a little better now after reading that updates are truly coming. Although I will feel sad if the Mac is simply relegated to the shadows with these quiet launches—especially for bigger updates like the ones that seem to be coming down the pipeline. My thoughts were that Apple was cooking something up regarding ARM for Mac—especially given Intel's recent announcements about fabbing ARM chips—and was going to announce it as the first event at Campus 2 in late October or early November. The move would be lauded as a new beginning for deeper integration across software and hardware, bringing more unity between macOS and iOS, and would explain the update delay across the lineup. I'm probably going to be in the market for a new iMac when the next 5K iMac launches, but it would be a shame to buy the last Intel Mac and then have them switch chips on me, reducing the potential lifespan of my machine. So I'm not really sure what course of action I should take.
 
There are many vocal people who think the MBP is too thin. If one were to follow everybody's wishes, there would need to be at least four Mac laptop lines: MB One, something between MB One and MBP, MBP, something above MBP.
It's not that it's "too thin", dude, it's that it makes compromises for that thinness that make it much less useful for many people. And then, as I said before, there's no light model with a retina display and usable ports.

Maybe the new MBP will be closer to that. We'll see.
 
It's not that it's "too thin", dude, it's that it makes compromises for that thinness that make it much less useful for many people. And then, as I said before, there's no light model with a retina display and usable ports.
It should be obvious that 'too thin' is shorthand for 'too thin to contain the components (and ports) one wants', from a beefy graphic card to more battery.
 
Extremely well thought out and intelligent post...but what does this have to do with a USB-C Adapter for a Macbook?

lol Touché. Our lack of focus on displays, QoS, and the professional market that truly supported Apple through its rough years have become Pavlovian triggers. Just seeing "display", "prosumer", "professional [hardware][software]", and especially "niche market" unconsciously trigger years of frustration with Apple and those who make unfounded claims on such topics. I got "triggered" discussing 4K+ displays and Mac's; before I knew it I was on a Pavlovian rant and there was no going back. :oops:
 
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After writing that I read this pretty good story on Six Colors that referenced Mark Gurman talking about Mac hardware updates. Seems like he was behind some of the rumors about the new 5K external displays with graphics cards. I haven't followed him as closely since he left 9to5Mac, but let me tell you, he's almost always right. I worked with him for a little while in college while at 9to5Mac writing some stories. In the end I decided it really wasn't my thing, as I had trouble keeping up with all the writers aggressively going after the big stories. I'm more the type who likes to sit back and let everything sink in and then process it and write about it more deeply. I've toyed around with the idea of just writing my own blog, similar to Daring Fireball, where I can structure my ideas a lot more clearly than I do in random forum posts around here. Anyway, Gurman has an amazing track record. It was always fun seeing what he was cooking up before it was posted.

So yeah, I do feel a little better now after reading that updates are truly coming. Although I will feel sad if the Mac is simply relegated to the shadows with these quiet launches—especially for bigger updates like the ones that seem to be coming down the pipeline. My thoughts were that Apple was cooking something up regarding ARM for Mac—especially given Intel's recent announcements about fabbing ARM chips—and was going to announce it as the first event at Campus 2 in late October or early November. The move would be lauded as a new beginning for deeper integration across software and hardware, bringing more unity between macOS and iOS, and would explain the update delay across the lineup. I'm probably going to be in the market for a new iMac when the next 5K iMac launches, but it would be a shame to buy the last Intel Mac and then have them switch chips on me, reducing the potential lifespan of my machine. So I'm not really sure what course of action I should take.

Great news, indeed!

I agree with waiting, it sucks to get something then having to go through the same trouble with the transition from PPC to Intel. I'll probably wait before upgrading my iMac as well ... 'cause I just got a rMBP 15" two months ago! haha
 
Great news, indeed!

I agree with waiting, it sucks to get something then having to go through the same trouble with the transition from PPC to Intel. I'll probably wait before upgrading my iMac as well ... 'cause I just got a rMBP 15" two months ago! haha
Honestly, your rMBP is about 20% faster in CPU than my mid-2012 rMBP launch model. The SSD is faster but who really cares that much if Photoshop opens in 4 seconds instead of 2? And the graphics are actually decently faster, which is the only thing I want to get 4K external at 60Hz. Otherwise there's just no reason to upgrade outside of an iMac which has a lot faster chip and a great display built-in. There's just no incentive. I'll be upgrading my camera gear soon (hopefully) so those much bigger RAW files will probably push me to a beefier machine, because otherwise my current machine is still legit. My early 2008 MBP had nothing on my mid-2012 model. Progress has slowed so much on desktops and laptops.
 
The Zenbook is thinner than the MacBook and has standard USB ports, SD Card slot, and mini HDMI.

Zenbook is 12.8 x 8.9-inch (32.5 x 22.6cm) vs MacBook at 11 x 7.73 (28.05 x 19.65cm)

Do try to compare apples to apples please. Comparing to something that's nearly two inches wider and an inch deeper is foolish.
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Good point. Well, they could make it a centimeter or two thicker. There’s a point where thinness is nice but useless.

When you need to haul a travel trailer and/or a family of five the Miata would be a poor choice for you. That does not make it "useless" for those whose needs it fulfills.

I own no multi port adapters. Haven't needed them with my retina MacBook. I still find it incredible useful.

It is targeted at a segment where ultra portability is more important than having tons of ports. Those who are trying to fit it into a different segment are going to be just as frustrated as the Miata owner trying to haul a travel trailer. The fault though is not with the Miata.
 
It should be obvious that 'too thin' is shorthand for 'too thin to contain the components (and ports) one wants', from a beefy graphic card to more battery.

... add "a decent keyboard" to that list.

And sure, ok, but my point stands (at least until/if the new MBP fills the gap) that there's been a nasty hole in Apple's retina-display laptop range between "heavy, full-featured laptop" and "light, hyper-minimal laptop stripped of many standard features".
 
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The spec's for a late-2013 Mac Pro starting around $4K are embarrassing (4096x2160 at 24 Hz, 3840x2160 at 30 Hz via HDMI)
HDMI is quite irrelevant for professional graphic work. Or at least it should be. DisplayPort does 4096x2160 @60Hz (on a Mac Pro). While HDMI is more focused on consumer use, DisplayPort prevails on professional displays.

My "current gen" $6k+ 8-Core Mac Pro6,1 with 32GB's RAM and dual D700's can't even support "pro" level dual/tri display setups without adapters.
Dual 4K @60Hz is supported with SST displays on 10.10.3 and later.
Without adapter, just use Mini-DisplayPort to DisplayPort cables.
That's certainly what I would call a "pro level dual display setup".
 
... add "a decent keyboard" to that list.

And sure, ok, but my point stands (at least until/if the new MBP fills the gap) that there's been a nasty hole in Apple's retina-display laptop range between "heavy, full-featured laptop" and "light, hyper-minimal laptop stripped of many standard features".
One thing at a time, 17 months ago there was only a vast nothingness below the MBP in Apple's retina-display laptop range. Unless Apple wants to limit its laptop range to three models (MB One, 13 & 15" MBP) or not go retina on its entire range, additional retina laptops will appear not far in the future.
 
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