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..Cook needs to revisit Jobs’ “Quadrant” as product fragmentation within our R&D divisions would make John Sculley proud. Focus and innovation are lacking and it’s disconcerting for many of us...
 
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These are PRECISELY the ports, the MacBook should have had from the beginning...
Now: I take my macbook home and attach adapter.
Then: i take my macbook home and attach my secondary display, a usb disk, keyboard, en something else.

Why is then better than now?
[doublepost=1473067597][/doublepost]Most critics here never had a clue what apple was trying to do to begin with:
They think the have it all figured out and project that onto current apple;
Then they see that doesn't work at all;
Therefore the whole of apple has to be doomed.

It's ridiculously arrogant...
(so am i, btw)

I recently tried to explain the difference between making a car better, and making a better car.
Apple makes better cars. The rest is trying to emulate that by making cars better.
 
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I recently tried to explain the difference between making a car better, and making a better car.
Apple makes better cars. The rest is trying to emulate that by making cars better.

Many get stuck in old paradigms and can't fathom the utility of a new paradigm, so they call it useless/crippled/doomed. Or they get stuck in the trap of thinking their needs apply to everyone else... which is just as myopic.

Remember when Apple ditched floppy drives and everyone bitched and moaned about that yet it turned out the world was already moving away from them? Okay maybe not, lots of folks here were too young (or didn't yet exist).

Remember when Apple ditched optical drives and every bitched and moaned about it? Now look at the world. Optical's gone the way of the floppy. Still out there for the increasingly rare niche use-cases, but generally unused by most.

True, the retina Macbook is not suitable for some people. That doest mean it isn't suitable for others who have different needs/uses.
 
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Many get stuck in old paradigms and can't fathom the utility of a new paradigm, so they call it useless/crippled/doomed. Or they get stuck in the trap of thinking their needs apply to everyone else... which is just as myopic.

Remember when Apple ditched floppy drives and everyone bitched and moaned about that yet it turned out the world was already moving away from them? Okay maybe not, lots of folks here were too young (or didn't yet exist).

Remember when Apple ditched optical drives and every bitched and moaned about it? Now look at the world. Optical's gone the way of the floppy. Still out there for the increasingly rare niche use-cases, but generally unused by most.

True, the retina Macbook is not suitable for some people. That doest mean it isn't suitable for others who have different needs/uses.
What I would personally like is an open and positive discussion (with people who try to put their egos aside) about the true reasons Apple products are considered better (by the ones who feel that way of course).

I didn't find that yet, sadly.
 
What I would personally like is an open and positive discussion (with people who try to put their egos aside) about the true reasons Apple products are considered better (by the ones who feel that way of course).

Yeah, lots of people tend to wrap up their identity with their device/equipment choices, and you won't find a lot of cogent discussion on such topics. That was as true twenty years ago as it is today. I've used Apple and PC products since the Apple ][+ and IBM PC XT were current models so I have a little bit of "time in the saddle" with both...

"Better" is really a vague term, as so many people have different needs, interests, and budgets. What best fits my situation may not be what best fits yours and vice versa. We could argue all day long and resolve not a thing, since each of us is 100% right for our individual situation.

In the past I enjoyed all the tinkering and fiddling and built many of my own PCs, partially because money was much tighter then. In recent years though I just don't care as much about the guts and inner workings. I'm more interested in just using the software I want to use and prefer the box that's running it to be "invisible". Money's much less an issue now too.

Really, if you're looking for compute-power-per-dollar, Apple's hardware isn't where you need to be looking.
Personally, I enjoy the simple platform interoperability of macOS and iOS. I can easily switch around between phone, tablet, laptop, or desktop as I wish. While this interoperability can be cobbled together on Android/Windows to some degree, it's not as "clean" of a solution, especially for the non-techies in my family. So that's largely the reason I use Apple products these days. I have no "loyalty" to Apple per-se other than they're the one's currently providing the best-fit platform for what I want to do these days. If someone comes up with an overall platform that does a smoother/simpler/better job of letting me do what I want to do I'll definitely consider switching.

In terms of hardware build quality, generally speaking my anecdotal observation is that Apple's laptops and PCs have been roughly equivalent component/build quality to business class Windows laptops and PCs. All of which has been a step above consumer-grade price-focused gear.

With all this said, what's right for me isn't necessarily what's right for you. That's something only you can really decide. "Better" is a subjective individual thing.
 
That doest mean it isn't suitable for others who have different needs/uses.

Agreed. Having just bought a Macbook m7 to replace an Air and I was pleasantly surprised to find that it can run Logic with some pretty hefty effects going on too. Although not my original intention, running out of battery made me look for audio interfaces design to maximise the benefits of USB-C 3.1 connectivity - didn't find one (too early).

I've ordered this Satechi thing - thanks MR for the heads-up!
 
Good point. Well, they could make it a centimeter or two thicker. There’s a point where thinness is nice but useless. This is where the computer becomes a piece of art instead of being a tool. Aesthetics are nice, but utility is far more important.
I'm not sure how more explicit Apple could have been in stating that the Macbook is for the wireless world. They have other offerings for people that need ports, but the Macbook was explicitly designed to be as wireless as possible.
 
Good point. Well, they could make it a centimeter or two thicker. There’s a point where thinness is nice but useless. This is where the computer becomes a piece of art instead of being a tool. Aesthetics are nice, but utility is far more important.

The thing is, mine is a very useful tool for the things I use it for and I have no complaints. I appreciate the size and making it bigger would be a detriment.

I get that the design may be limiting for your needs, but don't be one of those who can't think beyond your own usage scenarios. The rMB is a fine computer for a lot of people, and I don't believe anyone ever pitched it as suitable for all users.
 
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