Satechi Launches Dual-Connector Type-C Multimedia Adapter, Supporting Two 4K Displays

It's only more expensive if you specifically want HDMI (I'm guessing because HDMI over TB3 is actually DP over TB3 with a HDMI active converter at the end) - dual DP over TB3 is $3 more than the Satechi monstrosity: https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/TB3ADP2DP/

Thanks for the link - I didn't realise that TB3 ones had come down in price (they're still a bit inflated here in the UK) - plus, in the past, there have been several based on DisplayPort daisy-chaining that didn't work on a Mac.

Now I look, there's a Sonnet one with HDMI:
https://www.sonnetstore.com/products/thunderbolt3-to-dual-hdmi2-adapter
...and a more expensive one from StarTech: https://www.startech.com/AV/display...apters/thunderbolt-3-to-dual-hdmi~TB32HD24K60

...so @boberonicus may be interested. Of course, none of those do charging or provide other legacy ports.

(I'm guessing because HDMI over TB3 is actually DP over TB3 with a HDMI active converter at the end)

...so far. "native" HDMI alt mode for USB-C was announced a year or two back, but doesn't seem to have got anywhere. Probably for the best - the world could do without yet another permutation of USB-C adapters and support issues.
 
Now I look, there's a Sonnet one with HDMI:
Yep - Sonnet, OWC and Startech (and also Akitio, but OWC own them now anyway) all sell their own version of this same concept: TB3 to dual DP, all of which look similar enough for me to believe they're manufactured by the same white-label manufacturer.

Some of them sell the HDMI version, some don't. On a Mac unless you specifically only have HDMI inputs on a display I don't know why you'd choose it over DP.
 
I don't get this. Seems like every device out there consumes USB-C ports to give us USB-A ports. What I would LIKE, however, is a true USB-C hub with one (1) connection to my MacBook and multiple USB-C ports for connecting to devices. Yes, I realize that this could introduce a power issue... or a bandwidth issue... so having an external power supply would be OK, as would limiting the device to NOT support monitors. I'm simply thinking of ways to connect many devices via USB-C, such as hard drives, iDevices, etc. Seems silly to me to maintain both USB-C and USB-A cables for different scenarios.
 
I've been thinking for a while how the main reason Thunderbolt 3/USB-C is so convenient is because of it's ability to plug in just one cable when docking/un-docking. What I reckon would be a better product for Satechi to sell or sell as well is a simple dual-ended extender that would allow you to plug in 2 different devices but have the ability to physically connect/disconnect in one motion. Also, ideally this would come with a utility that allows you to eject multiple drives at once ;) Might have to start a kickstarter project here guys!

IMHO, all you really need is a sturdy and rigid "bonnet" into which the ends of two USB-C cables can be securely locked. With that, you take your two USB-C cables for your two USB-C (or Thunderbolt, or whatever) hubs that go in (left ro right MacBook Pro USB-C port pair), click them both into the bonnet, then from there on, plug the "bonnet" and its two connectors into the laptop to dock/undock. The bonnet needs to be sturdy enough that you can't correctly plug one of the two in while the other isn't quite in, etc; the feel of plugging/unplugging seeming as much as possible like you are plugging one "thing" into one (albeit now pretty large) port is the main UX challenge here.

That said, the *better* solution than this Satechi abomination or the more versatile bonnet idea is to use a Thunderbolt chipset and a single cable in your solution, similar to the above-linked OWC device (https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/TB3ADP2DP/ since I still have that open in my tabs). One cable and one plug is far far superior to a multi-headed "dock". MacBook Pro supports dual monitors on Thunderbolt, but if you have just USB-C chipset in there there just isn't enough bandwidth for two monitors on one port.

[[Insert lengthy diatribe about how utterly incompetent USB-C committee is around which cables work with which standard and the horrible naming conventions and the impossibility of knowing if a collection of "USB-C looking cables" and "USB-C looking ports" will all work together until/unless you actually connect them all and try it]]
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I don't get this. Seems like every device out there consumes USB-C ports to give us USB-A ports. What I would LIKE, however, is a true USB-C hub with one (1) connection to my MacBook and multiple USB-C ports for connecting to devices. Yes, I realize that this could introduce a power issue... or a bandwidth issue... so having an external power supply would be OK, as would limiting the device to NOT support monitors. I'm simply thinking of ways to connect many devices via USB-C, such as hard drives, iDevices, etc. Seems silly to me to maintain both USB-C and USB-A cables for different scenarios.

Generally speaking, if you want a strong stable solution and are using a Mac, you need to stop searching for "USB-C Hub" and instead search for "Thunderbolt docking station". They are more pricey (Thunderbolt chipsets appear to cost more, but more importantly the components need to be much heavier duty to handle the power loads of Thunderbolt 3 / someday-USB-4), but (1) will allow multiple full-power+full-bandwidth USB-C-level connections, (2) can provide full (87W) power to your MacBook Pro in many cases, and (3) allow a single simple port connection to your laptop rather than this dual-port monstrosity. Ars Technica has run at least one market review of Thunderbolt docks and come up with a few (three if I remember correctly) docks that got very high marks.
 
I don't get this. Seems like every device out there consumes USB-C ports to give us USB-A ports. What I would LIKE, however, is a true USB-C hub with one (1) connection to my MacBook and multiple USB-C ports for connecting to devices. [...] I'm simply thinking of ways to connect many devices via USB-C, such as hard drives, iDevices, etc. Seems silly to me to maintain both USB-C and USB-A cables for different scenarios.
If such a true USB-C hub existed, I think those multiple USB-C ports could offer only pure USB 3.x data (+power). All the other protocols, in particular the alternate mode DP & HDMI, aren't 'branch-able'. Thunderbolt, even before it used the USB-C port standard, wasn't and isn't branch-able. TB however is daisy-chainable, meaning a TB (peripheral) controller can extract data streams (incl. DP) from a TB chain and by putting multiple TB controllers in in series, you can extract multiple DP streams.

I haven't seen anything that says that USB-C is daisy-chainable (except for power supply and maybe USB data). Meaning those USB-C hubs that have a USB-C input for the power supply support exactly two things only with this USB-C port: external power supply and a simple USB 3.x data connection. If you plugged a second USB-C hub into that USB-C port, it almost certainly worked to supply power but whether the USB-A ports of that second hub would work, I don't know.

There are a few USB-C hubs that offer a grand total of two (!) USB-C ports. But those then don't support pass-through charging (of the computer into which the hub is plugged into) and don't support any monitor output via those two USB-C ports. In other words, those two USB-C ports only supply USB 3.x data. In essence these act like USB-A ports that have a USB-A to USB-C adaptor plugged into them.
 
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I think if you have a hub, it means it's too early to switch to USB-C. The only reason to have only that connector is if all your devices support it as-is. You can get USB-C everything if you want, just costs a lot more. I'll sit back and let the prices fall, also let all the protocols figure themselves out (USB4 merging with TB will be great).
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There's a technical reason for why that doesn't exist, but I can't recall what it is. Anyone know?
Maybe it's fine as long as it supports only the USB protocol and not, say, Thunderbolt.
 
By that logic, it's too early to switch to USB-anything, because people still use USB hubs with USB-A ports too.
Yup, some people see hubs/docks as a tool to get more ports, others to get different ports. Frequently it will be both. Considering only one of those two cases is missing the picture. Though, Thunderbolt (and before that Firewire) has another way around the 'more ports' challenge, daisy-chaining. I still run a 4-device Firewire (800) chain. In a variation of the OP one might say, "It's too early to switch away from USB-A hubs, unless you can afford to go all TB". However, that will likely never be possible as there are too many peripherals that don't offer TB or don't offer TB daisy-chaining (which includes anything that has only one TB port, which applies to everything that relies on an adaptor from TB to something else (Ethernet, Firewire, etc.)).
 
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I think if you have a hub, it means it's too early to switch to USB-C. The only reason to have only that connector is if all your devices support it as-is.

Without a hub, I’d be out of ports before even connecting anything. Two ports for the monitors, one for power, one for Ethernet. That’s while paying an unnecessary markup on getting USB-C monitors and a USB-C-to-Ethernet adapter.

If I actually wanted to connect anything else now, I’d still need a hub.
 
I appreciate what they’re trying to accomplish, but this is ultimately an overpriced proprietary solution. For dual 4K 60hz displays, just use two $15 adapters, or spend more for a Thunderbolt 3 dock.
I have them. One of which has an input for power too. Smart
 
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