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If you stream Pandora audio it consumes about 50MB/hour.
Stream Netflix it consumes about 200 MB/hour.
The math is simple. These days most "streamers" can consume around 10GB of data easily just on their phones if they simply listen to Pandora at least 5 hours a day at work (cause they don't have access to wifi or their work place restricts their use).
I would like to hear an explanation. Not calling you out or anything, just trying to pick up new knowledge. From what I've learned, each tower is like a router, the more people on and simultaneously using data, the higher the chance for packet drops and/or packet queuing delays which result in a perceived slowdown to the user.
Ok. So Cox should just buy one unlimited plan and divvy it up among its 100k+ users since it wouldn't slow anything down right???
You simply don't understand that just because it hasn't affected you yet, that it doesn't mean it's not how it works in places where heavy use occurs.
It has NOTHING to do with throttling. If anything, the fact that they can't will accelerate them eliminating the unlimited option because they will have no choice.
The only reason I care is because once ATT is the only one left they're bound to do it too.
That, and it'll be funny to see the tantrum from the people who paid full price without any sort of guarantee or contract from Verizon regarding unlimited.
They can (and will) stop it whenever they want and there is literally nothing you can do about it.
The OP brags about "savings" when they are the reason it's going to end for everyone else. If you're happy about that fine, but abusing something just because you can isn't something to be proud of.
They have already eliminated unlimited, they will do no more. If you have it and dont use a subsidy you will keep it, the amount of people in that position is small. and the telco companies are making bigger profits than ever because of their gouging new tiered plans. So the need to make any other moves has been eliminated.
and no cox can not just buy an unlimited plan and split it up, unlimited plans are no longer available and plus re selling the plan is against the rules. nice straw man argument though.
yes...more people pulling from that tower at the same time will constrain data somewhat...but despite what you care..the type of service does impact that. LTE is 10 time more efficient with bandwidth than 3g...
so as ATT says.. 3gb on 3g.. is when they throttle..because it "impacts" the network. sooo you have to be using 30 gb on LTE before you see the same "impact" if not maybe even more.
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hahahahahaha "cox should..."
yeah that would be legal in all.
nice try...
im terribly sorry you have ATT and get throttled.
ill use an extra 10gbs this week in honor of you.
And? My point stands, and you're simply confirming it. You can also usually use data about 10x as fast on LTE, so it basically nullifies any difference.
We're talking about a provided service here. There are always caps, and always limitations. Something without limits simply isn't possible - let alone from a company that will bend you over a barrel at any chance possible.
hahaha
so because its 10x fast then its okay to give someone a bs 5gb cap?
oh okay.. i shouldnt by premade food.. i might eat 10x as much..its 10x faster to cook!
explain to me how it being even faster has any correlation with were to cap it at due to LTE efficiency and network optimization??
so if i have a car that goes 200mpg but gets 100mpg i should be limited on how much gas i can use?? since...it..goes..faster...
what point stands?? that 3g/4g are the same thing in your mind and work the same way? okay. sweet!
Yup.
If you consume over 4-5Gb of data a month, the unlimited plan on Verizon (which is not throttled) is an EXCELLENT deal.
That's different.
If a particular wifi is slow and unreliable I'd disconnect and use carrier data instead. Not every wifi speed is the same.
But if you have access to fast wifi and just try to use up as much carrier data as you can that's just plain ignorance IMO.
hahaha
so because its 10x fast then its okay to give someone a bs 5gb cap?
oh okay.. i shouldnt by premade food.. i might eat 10x as much..its 10x faster to cook!
explain to me how it being even faster has any correlation with were to cap it at due to LTE efficiency and network optimization??
so if i have a car that goes 200mpg but gets 100mpg i should be limited on how much gas i can use?? since...it..goes..faster...
what point stands?? that 3g/4g are the same thing in your mind and work the same way? okay. sweet!
hahaha?
You just don't get it. It doesn't MATTER how much (or little) you bog down the network by using it like a maniac. Once Verizon decides that users like you are more of a pain than an asset, they will END the program. Not throttle it, not grandfather it, END it. Bye bye. Forever. ATT can at least throttle it to keep the damage to a minimum. Much smaller chance of them ending it because of that, vs. Verizon which has to deal with people streaming Anime from their mom's basement all day with no threat of throttle.
Once they do end the plan you can either choose a data plan they still offer, or leave. Hint: they won't care if you leave, based on your usage... they know no one else can offer the same thing anymore.
You paid full price for the privelege of being completely at Verizon's whim.
I, on the other hand, paid a subsidized price AND still get unlimited data. I've never been throttled, but then again I don't abuse the service either.
Maybe you'll laugh instead of throwing a temper tantrum (once Verizon takes away your plan and you're left with a full priced phone and no recourse.
Nah. You'll go nuts.
It's so funny the responses on here.
Im just an average user, not an abuser. I do everything I want at any time. Music, movies, whatever. Every GB over 2 is $15 extra in my pocket.
Verizon is a multi-billion dollar infrastructure and company. If you think my little 8GB is gonna "bog down" the network, your seriously deluded. This isnt Sprint after all. Verizon can handle it.
Verizon shouldn't tell customers how much of their "unlimited" data to use.
Carriers should be afraid of it's customers, not the other way around.
If Verizon wanted to end the plan, they would of. A year from now you nay-sayers will still be singing the same tune lol.
Im just an average user, not an abuser. I do everything I want at any time. Music, movies, whatever. Every GB over 2 is $15 extra in my pocket.
Verizon is a multi-billion dollar infrastructure and company. If you think my little 8GB is gonna "bog down" the network, your seriously deluded. This isnt Sprint after all. Verizon can handle it.
Verizon shouldn't tell customers how much of their "unlimited" data to use.
Carriers should be afraid of it's customers, not the other way around.
If Verizon wanted to end the plan, they would of. A year from now you nay-sayers will still be singing the same tune lol.
Nope, your 8GB by itself isn't crap to VZW. It's the thousands of other users like you that combine to cause the problem... It's just like saying a bank wouldn't notice if you walked in and took $100 from the vault. Probably true, but not if 10,000 people did it all at once.
You're also the one who bet a full priced, non-subsidized phone on Verizon not taking back a feature they in no way promised or guaranteed to you. I'm glad I'm not in that position.
I have a full subsidy AND unlimited data, so it's not jealousy. Carriers are afraid of me, they aren't afraid of you. They don't CARE if you leave, because of your habits. If they could rid themselves of users like you and not suffer the bad press, they would. That's why they are trying to weed you out by eliminating your subsidy in the first place.
If you're proud you're abusing the system and don't think Verizon will ever put a stop to it that's super, but you're 100% kidding yourself.
WHEN it happens, you'll probably start the thread about how mad you are. Just remember that users like you will be the ultimate reason it happens.
I love it when people like you are SO deluded. Um, hello?! 8GBs a day might raise a red flag, not a MONTH. Seriously get real. There are MILLIONS of customers using upwards of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of GBs a day, i consider myself a drop in a huge bucket.
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who is considered a hog? whats the cutoff? i use wifi at home. i used over 20gb last month. i dont have wifi at the construction site where i work. i stream sirius for 7 hours a day. i pay for that service. i watched the apple event today. i used 1gb just today. i paid full price for my i5 to have the privilege of not having to pay overages. i am staying within the bounds of my agreement with my provider. i don't understand how i can be ruining it for everyone else and how i'm going to piss off verizon. everyone here makes a good argument but i can't see verizon stripping unlimited anytime soon, if ever.
edit: stripping from customers who are existing and do not upgrade
edit: stripping from customers who are existing and do not upgrade
hahaha?
You just don't get it. It doesn't MATTER how much (or little) you bog down the network by using it like a maniac. Once Verizon decides that users like you are more of a pain than an asset, they will END the program. Not throttle it, not grandfather it, END it. Bye bye. Forever. ATT can at least throttle it to keep the damage to a minimum. Much smaller chance of them ending it because of that, vs. Verizon which has to deal with people streaming Anime from their mom's basement all day with no threat of throttle.
Once they do end the plan you can either choose a data plan they still offer, or leave. Hint: they won't care if you leave, based on your usage... they know no one else can offer the same thing anymore.
You paid full price for the privelege of being completely at Verizon's whim.
I, on the other hand, paid a subsidized price AND still get unlimited data. I've never been throttled, but then again I don't abuse the service either.
Maybe you'll laugh instead of throwing a temper tantrum (once Verizon takes away your plan and you're left with a full priced phone and no recourse.
Nah. You'll go nuts.
bahaha yeah. you're right.. verizon will um just do away with it..
no way in hell..especially if ATT still has grandfathered plans.
once again.. im sorry you are getting so butthurt about ATT throttling you..
*streams another gig for itJW
For real, im so annoyed with ATT users saying VZW is throttling WHEN THEY DONT EVEN HAVE VZW! VZW doesnt throttle 4G, PERIOD. only 3G, its in the damn agreement, read it!
http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/31/technology/mobile/fcc-verizon/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
And here we are. It took a little longer than I expected, and they haven't started kicking people off yet, but if you don't believe this is a CLEAR indication of where they are heading with your precious "never gonna change, never gonna throttle it" unlimited plan, I have some land in Florida that you can buy dirt cheap!
They are going to throttle. They lose too much $$$ on people with unlimited plans to not at least TRY and exploit the possibility of getting them OFF of "unlimited" just like ATT does. They are under no obligation to continue it, and now it's clear they are starting to explore that possibility.
http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/31/technology/mobile/fcc-verizon/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
And here we are. It took a little longer than I expected, and they haven't started kicking people off yet, but if you don't believe this is a CLEAR indication of where they are heading with your precious "never gonna change, never gonna throttle it" unlimited plan, I have some land in Florida that you can buy dirt cheap!
They are going to throttle. They lose too much $$$ on people with unlimited plans to not at least TRY and exploit the possibility of getting them OFF of "unlimited" just like ATT does. They are under no obligation to continue it, and now it's clear they are starting to explore that possibility.
Not me tho. Im still IN CONTRACT with unlimited data which they won't throttle. Until i reach the end of my contract. Sooooo yeah...
Since unlimited is a thing of the past why would anyone develop a faster system? Your 2gigs would be gone even faster...
Lte is as fast as the networks ever need to get. They just need a cheaper way to create the network and boom unlimited is back. However this won't happen as long as people are dumb enough to pay per gig. Smart phones will be done soon and the next big thing will come about.
Lte is as fast as the networks ever need to get. They just need a cheaper way to create the network and boom unlimited is back. However this won't happen as long as people are dumb enough to pay per gig. Smart phones will be done soon and the next big thing will come about.
ok, explain this to me. VZW stopped selling unlimited plans on June 30th in 2012, before the iPhone 5 came out. Then after that date if you used a subsidized upgrade you were forced onto a mobile share plan.
Does VZW have plans that are longer then 2 years? Because the only way I can see someone still being in contract on an unlimited plan is if they signed a 3yr plan before the cut off date.
You said you have a iphone5 that you paid full price for to avoid losing your unlimited. Which would mean that at best, you bought a different phone on June 30th in 2012 on a 2yr contract. Then in Sept you bought a full price iPhone 5 and did and ESN swap which did NOT extend your contract. So your contract end date would be 2 years after 6/30/12, in other words, you contract is over on 6/30/14. Which would mean you and everyone else (except those that used the loophole on the website 18ish months ago) would not still be in contract come 10/01/14. Meaning you are subject to throttling....
And VZW throttling seems to be more draconian then ATT. VZW said you are throttled if you are in the top 5% (over 4.7 gb) and the tower you are on gets busy. Then you are throttled on every tower across the VZW network through the end of the billing month and then throttle for the entire next billing month. Only being unthrottled after not being in the top 5% anymore.
ATT is basic, over 5GB in a month, throttled until end of billing cycle.
So explain to me how you are still in contract? and won't get throttled?
Sorry, not trying to be antagonistic, but my brother is in the same exact situation. Bought a phone in June'12 to avoid loosing unlimited. And now will be throttled so he is just switching to edge when the iPhone 6 comes out.
First you can be in contract for all kinds of reasons and can get on one at any time for different reasons. Like you can call in for some promotion of $10/month off and that requires being on a 1 year contract, and suddenly you are on contract.
Second, what VZW talks about doing is actually throttling only on congested cells and only when they are congested. Nothing about doing it for the rest of the cycle, which is what AT&T apparently does. Seems less "draconian" actually.
