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I love technology and both platforms...get what works best for YOU and if that happens to be Apple great, and if not, that's fine too...it's your money, do what you want with it. I'm not loyal to any brand, none of them are paying my bills or giving me endorsements. Funny that people get fired up over a brand...are they paying you or taking from you?
 
No kidding...

I was talking about Android and iOS, not manufactures. More are using Android and if iOS is so great, than why haven't the rest of the crowed switched over ?

You are missing the point. Android is not a phone. iOS in its own right pretty much is.

When someone buys a Samsung Note line, Did they purchase it solely because it has Android OS? When someone buys LG G4 did they buy it only because it uses Androids OS?

Your comparing the sales of every manufacturer vs Apple to skew the numbers of Android outselling iOS. Again Android is NOT a phone. Just because someone bought a Samsung Galaxy phone does NOT mean they bought it because it's an "Android" phone...

So to answer your question of why has the crowd not switched over? Well.. Again...In laymans term your comparing multiple phone manufacturers sales(LG, Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc) to a single manufacturers sales... Yet Apple still holds its own compared to them all combined. Does that not say anything towards iOS? Or Apple?
 
You are missing the point. Android is not a phone. iOS in its own right pretty much is.

When someone buys a Samsung Note line, Did they purchase it solely because it has Android OS? When someone buys LG G4 did they buy it only because it uses Androids OS?

Your comparing the sales of every manufacturer vs Apple to skew the numbers of Android outselling iOS. Again Android is NOT a phone. Just because someone bought a Samsung Galaxy phone does NOT mean they bought it because it's an "Android" phone...

So to answer your question of why has the crowd not switched over? Well.. Again...In laymans term your comparing multiple phone manufacturers sales(LG, Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc) to a single manufacturers sales... Yet Apple still holds its own compared to them all combined. Does that not say anything towards iOS? Or Apple?

I know Android is not a phone buddy. I'm talking about the OS, and Android is still out sold over iOS, and if the iOS being Apple is so compelling, why have so many not switched ? People say Apple is so great with the iOS is what we got started on this road. Got it now ?
 
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Hey All,

After much consideration i'm saying goodbye to iPhone 6S Plus and hello to Galaxy S7 Edge. Working in technology I think Apple has just been surpassed and is failing to innovate and make smart decisions. The whole "The only thing that has changed is everything" marketing was quite frankly, a joke..

Everytime I go into the Apple store and see people paying $29.99 for what should be a $9.99 cable it just makes me sick. I'm just tired of the whole deal that is Apple. Anyone else feel this way? Not saying they make bad products at all..

I'm certainly going to miss iMessages but that's about it. I'll be gaining a phone that is much more ergonomic, has a better screen,larger battery, better camera, external storage, wireless charging, etc..

No reason to troll here with this post.
 
I know Android is not a phone buddy. I'm talking about the OS, and Android is still out sold over iOS, and if the iOS being Apple is so compelling, why have so many not switched ? People say Apple is so great with the iOS is what we got started on this road. Got it now ?
A very large percentage of sales goes to low budget (under $300) handsets globally. If we saw Apple give us a phone that came in at $300, I am sure the numbers would be vastly different.

This isn't to say anything necessarily for or against one platform or the other. I just think we enthusiasts get caught up with flagship handsets, and Thad just not what is selling in massive numbers with android. Not a bad thing. Just a fact.
 
I know Android is not a phone buddy. I'm talking about the OS, and Android is still out sold over iOS, and if the iOS being Apple is so compelling, why have so many not switched ? People say Apple is so great with the iOS is what we got started on this road. Got it now ?


Use common sense.. 1 manufacturer uses iOS, nearly every other phone manufacturer on the market uses Androids OS. Does not take a rocket scientist to know 2 is greater than 1.. Stop being gullible to marketing ploys..

Android is nothing more than an open source platform. When Samsung sells there phone using Android OS, Samsung gets credit for their phone, not Android. Or wait, maybe Android is a person who designs cell phones for people hmm..

Android out selling iOS is as broad of a statement as "Potato chips out sells Pringles".
 
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Hope you like it. The camera is piquing my interest. I'm enjoying my Nexus 6P, but good lord the shutter time is terrible. It takes better low light pictures than the 6S I had, but the shutter time is the worst I've seen in forever. By the time you take a pic, you've already missed the moment. Waiting to see what the iPhone 7 camera brings.
 
These are just toys people. No need to get carried away!
No, my self image and well being are determined by which OS and phone I choose! How dare you threaten me!

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Hope you like it. The camera is piquing my interest. I'm enjoying my Nexus 6P, but good lord the shutter time is terrible. It takes better low light pictures than the 6S I had, but the shutter time is the worst I've seen in forever. By the time you take a pic, you've already missed the moment. Waiting to see what the iPhone 7 camera brings.
Apple better step up their camera game to compete with the killer cameras from Samsung and LG. Although the iPhone is still a great camera, it is no longer on top and many people are switching platforms just to get the GS6/7/Note 5 or LG G4/G5 and the amazing cameras they offer.
 
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No, my self image and well being are determined by which OS and phone I choose! How dare you threaten me!

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Apple better step up their camera game to compete with the killer cameras from Samsung and LG. Although the iPhone is still a great camera, it is no longer on top and many people are switching platforms just to get the GS6/7/Note 5 or LG G4/G5 and the amazing cameras they offer.
Yes, for their sake, they better. Having to wait two years for an "S" cycle to bring significant improvements in the cameras is too long, especially when everyone else doesn't hold back in any year.

If they want to wow everyone, they would include their rumored optical-zooming dual-lens camera in all their iPhone 7's, not just on the bigger ones. That's the only way I see them competing with the S7, cause an f/2.0 aperture and OIS 1.0 are not going to cut it. That won't be enough to eliminate the fuzzy pictures the iPhone produces (cause the S7 isn't producing fuzzy pictures, not from the comparison shots I've seen).
 
Hey All,

After much consideration i'm saying goodbye to iPhone 6S Plus and hello to Galaxy S7 Edge. Working in technology I think Apple has just been surpassed and is failing to innovate and make smart decisions. The whole "The only thing that has changed is everything" marketing was quite frankly, a joke..

Everytime I go into the Apple store and see people paying $29.99 for what should be a $9.99 cable it just makes me sick. I'm just tired of the whole deal that is Apple. Anyone else feel this way? Not saying they make bad products at all..

I'm certainly going to miss iMessages but that's about it. I'll be gaining a phone that is much more ergonomic, has a better screen,larger battery, better camera, external storage, wireless charging, etc..

I have had most of the Notes, what ruined the note 4 for me were the horrible sounding speakers, it litterally hurts my ears listening to some radio stations on it, and there is no way to adjust the equilizer across the whole system on android. Also a couple of the games I really like had terrible lag and were not optimized well on android or touchwiz. Although samsung put in an amazing display and camera, these two issues ruined the device for me. Much later samsung offered an update which has enabled games to run much better, they streamline touchwiz, but there is no way they can improve the hardware of the awful speakers, if they allowed a cross system equilizer I could just about make it sound decent.
I ended up buying the 6+, which just does everything really solid, all the games I like runs smooth, speakers are pretty good, decent bass, not the horrible high frequency screeching when listening to radio, battery life much better.
I've now come to realise a large phone is not for me, but the low res 326 of the 6s stopped me from buying it.
 
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I did the same when the note 4 came out. I switched back when the 6s came out. Why? Slow updates. Lag. Unpredictable battery life. It was ultimately the sum of all the little annoyances in daily use. Also I learned that android performance decrease considerably more over time than iPhone. You will not notice the subtle annoyances until ab 6 months in.
 
I did the same when the note 4 came out. I switched back when the 6s came out. Why? Slow updates. Lag. Unpredictable battery life. It was ultimately the sum of all the little annoyances in daily use. Also I learned that android performance decrease considerably more over time than iPhone. You will not notice the subtle annoyances until ab 6 months in.
The bold and hardware issues drive me back to iOS. The fact is the iPhone is the right mix of features in concert.
 
I did the same when the note 4 came out. I switched back when the 6s came out. Why? Slow updates. Lag. Unpredictable battery life. It was ultimately the sum of all the little annoyances in daily use. Also I learned that android performance decrease considerably more over time than iPhone. You will not notice the subtle annoyances until ab 6 months in.
Lag isn't a thing on new Marshmallow devices ... neither is poor battery life ... especially with Doze in Marshmallow. If you want frequent updates you can get a Nexus ... or root your phone and install Cyanogen.

Seriously ... stop comparing two year old Android experiences with new iPhones. Android isn't a laggy OS anymore. It has come a dramatically long way.
 
The bold and hardware issues drive me back to iOS. The fact is the iPhone is the right mix of features in concert.
I know this is all true. However we just get called liars and fanboys because remember guys android does not lag. It is perfect and I can't imagine why anyone would choose a fisher price iPhone over an obviously superior android flagship phone :p
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Lag isn't a thing on new Marshmallow devices ... neither is poor battery life ... especially with Doze in Marshmallow. If you want frequent updates you can get a Nexus ... or root your phone and install Cyanogen.

Seriously ... stop comparing two year old Android experiences with new iPhones. Android isn't a laggy OS anymore. It has come a dramatically long way.
I used my boyfriends Samsung Galaxy S6 edge plus last week and it lagged. Every time I've used it it has lagged. Maybe he is not maintaining it properly, he doesn't clear the RAM or the cache and he doesn't re-boot it ever. However the fact remains it still has lag. He also reports poor battery life. He leaves home at 7.30 in the morning and gets back just after 6. When he gets home his phone is nearly dead or dead and he has to charge it. I really like the look of the S7 and considered getting it as a secondary phone. However after using his S6 edge plus it reminded me of all the things I found annoying about Samsung phones and I decided not to get it.
 
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much more ergonomic, has a better screen,larger battery, better camera, external storage, wireless charging, etc..
iPhone has these all.and will be the best.
 
The notorious lag Samsung phone users experience is not really Androids OS issue.

People need to remember, Android is an open source platform for developers, meaning each phone manufacturer can put their own spin on the OS. Like Samsungs touchwiz with lockdowns and their unlimited amount of bloatware. Which is also the reason why Samsung phone users receives Android updates late, you have to wait for Samsung to release it to their end users, not Google.

The only true or pure Android device out there I believe is the Nexus line, which Google actually develops and markets.
 
Why not? If you're one of those people that used a Samsung phone years ago and said "never again", you're missing out since a lot has changed for the better.


So are second hand iPhones. The S7 Edge is almost $800, far from cheap.
My last Samsung high end phone is a Galaxy S5, still my elder son's phone and I missed nothing since it is a crap (my opinion and Im entitled to have one).
Samsung is good at putting a long specs list on paper and then ruin that with a poor software implementation.

I'm not going to buy another Samsung smartphone, even if they offer me an S7 for $100...

Stop being so defensive. There are enormous amounts of diversity and choice and price points on the Android platform. I have not said otherwise. So what? apple is the only one sell IOS devices and that is by design. It has worked out well for them. But all that doesn't blur the facts. The sales numbers don't lie either. The marketshare numbers don't lie either. Sales are still sales. No matter if it was a low end Android phone or a high end Android phone or a high end Apple phone.
Sales are still sales. Anyone saying only high end sales should count or make up sales data and market share data is pure ignorance and you know it.

sales are sales....they all add up to market share. they don't mean one platform is better than the other. I have never said that.
since sales are sales, show me a single high end Android based phone that sold better than an iPhone, please ...

as well as ios share has been built by subs./installment plans etc..?

what would be the ios share in usa without getting it with a contract? what would happen to iphone without these new installment plans?
installment plans apply also for every other phone, worldwide and not only in USA.
People buy an iPhone because the want an iPhone.
People buy android cheap phone because they want a cheap smartphone.
Show me proof of an Android based high end phone sold in a bigger number of an iPhone....
Android huge numbers are pumped up by the vast majority of cheap phones they are selling worldwide...

And you are missing my point, which is that Android only sells more because Apple chooses not to engage in those markets.

Your point that Android sells more does not invalidate my clarification as to why. Or put another way, you can't justfity the quality of Android based solely on the quantity of it's sales when it has no other competitors in certain markets.
Correct.
And I strongly hope Apple won't engage that low level market in the future.
Let the "supporters" speak about market share (I can't use another term without being banned, but you can understand the meaning). I don't care about it.

Of course they do. The 5c failure was an attempt at that.
The 5C "failure" still sold more than many high end Android phones in several markets ...
Many manufacturers would like to have such "a failure"....

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