IMO the feedback system on both sides is what made eBay work, it's what gave everybody trust in the system. Huge mistake to take it away from one side like that. eBay is now quickly becoming irrelevant for most people.
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Carrier SCAM - READ THIS - AT&T Next Plan
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I've done this before....Got me in trouble with eBay and the feedback removed. They have a rule against negative feedback being left like that.
That sucks
That sucks
I've done it before to people that didn't pay, eBay hasn't said nothing to me.
I guess it depends on what kind of business relationship you have with eBay. I don't think they will do anything to your account even if the buyer complains. It is messed up that it's kind if a one sided thing on feedback eBay has going, but I'm sure others on eBay would appreciate your honest feedback. I know I would.
This is true, but I once disputed a charge for eBay/PayPal on my credit card at around 90 days and while I got reimbursed by Amex without hassle it was a major fight with PayPal to clear my account of a negative balance and ALMOST a trip to collections.
Also the AT&T Next isn't the only thing causing phones to be blocked. AT&T has been doing it for a while.
I bought a couple of brand new iPhone 4's off a guy a few months ago on Craigslist and sold them on eBay. About a month and a half later one of the buyers told me his phone had become blocked from the network. I'm assuming both got blocked but I think the other buyer bought his and shipped it overseas.
So as far as this blocking thing goes it's just another factor of the used cell phone market now. It can happen at any time and even if a phone is clear at the time of the sale, it can be blocked later for non-payment or lost/stolen insurance claims.
I bought a couple of brand new iPhone 4's off a guy a few months ago on Craigslist and sold them on eBay. About a month and a half later one of the buyers told me his phone had become blocked from the network. I'm assuming both got blocked but I think the other buyer bought his and shipped it overseas.
So as far as this blocking thing goes it's just another factor of the used cell phone market now. It can happen at any time and even if a phone is clear at the time of the sale, it can be blocked later for non-payment or lost/stolen insurance claims.
I think meeting at the police department and taking a picture of his driver's license and license plate is fine as well.
WTF? You people are insane, nobody in their right mind would ever allow you to take a photo of their driver's license.
All you need to do as a seller is to take one of those counterfeit detecting pens and all you need to do as a buyer is to pop in your SIM to test prior to handing over your money, it is common sense to do this in public as well.
Why wouldn't you allow someone to take a pic of your DL? Unless you have something to hide.
As the seller I would report my phone "stolen" and getting another phone for myself after the fact you tested out your sim, thus leaving you with an expensive iPod touch. As the buyer, I would use fake money that passed your 99 cent store pen check.
Anyone who is a seller on Ebay should realize that you effectively provide a 45 day return policy, regardless of whether you say no returns or not. In fact, saying no returns just makes it worse for yourself.
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How about we make a deal, sell me something of value and I can guarantee that you will part with both your money and product. Just because you have not come across a scam buyer doesn't mean that you are immune to a SND.
Remember, it's your responsibility to ship a product to the buyer - as described. Even if the product is damaged while in shipping, that's your problem to rectify.
The problem with ebay is that they do little to clamp down on shoddy buyers or outright scammers. The new member I sold an iPhone to opened the box and took the phone out, then returned the box and claimed that they thought it was 'part of a competition'; which includes buying accessories for this iPhone too. Filled a dispute with their CC too.
Who do you think ebay sided with? And I am a 10 year + member and have sold $10k worth of goods via ebay.
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How about we make a deal, sell me something of value and I can guarantee that you will part with both your money and product. Just because you have not come across a scam buyer doesn't mean that you are immune to a SND.
Remember, it's your responsibility to ship a product to the buyer - as described. Even if the product is damaged while in shipping, that's your problem to rectify.
The problem with ebay is that they do little to clamp down on shoddy buyers or outright scammers. The new member I sold an iPhone to opened the box and took the phone out, then returned the box and claimed that they thought it was 'part of a competition'; which includes buying accessories for this iPhone too. Filled a dispute with their CC too.
Who do you think ebay sided with? And I am a 10 year + member and have sold $10k worth of goods via ebay.
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While there are scamming buyers on ebay, the vast majority are just people looking for a good deal. Put buyer requirements in your auction and you should be fine, unless the buyer feels he has a genuine reason for the return, the you work with them.
What buyer requirements? I cannot smoke out scammers and I cannot block new users. I cannot even ask for any additional id verification or so forth.
Block buyers with a negative right? No way to mark a buyer negative.
No matter what requirements you put though you can always end up with a buyer trying to scam you and there isn't much you can do about it but eat the loss.
Its a risk selling on eBay nowadays.
It's the old rule of life. I hear lots of people who say well I have not experienced an issue with x company, therefore, they are great and the concerns of others are false.
You only know a business when you do have an issue and get to gauge how they respond. We pay ebay big $$$ as sellers, well into the $40 to $70 range when selling an iphone yet receive zero customer service. They don't even pretend to care.
AT&T is a classic example of this in action, where all is good when it works. However, it rapidly goes downhill when you have a problem and the company's pass-the-buck/indifference rears its ugly head.
Whereas, this is exactly why I fell in love with Apple. It took me by surprise that an American company actually gives a **** and makes my life easier - it's unAmerican in 2013. I am more than happy to pay a premium for this level of service and their fantastic (reliable) products are just the icing on the cake.
I never said other's experiences were false either.
All I claimed is what I've experienced, and what I do to protect myself.
Keep putting your argument into my mouth though.
Identity theft and other privacy concerns.
And how exactly would performing the purchase at AT&T avoid this siutation? AT&T aren't going to update their records to say that you now own that phone, they don't care.
It is actually a simple chemical reaction used in the pen that has iodine in it that reacts with the starch found in most regular paper so it doesn't matter how much you paid for the pen. However if the buyer was savvy enough there are ways around that.
When people are dishonest it's the worst. I avoid buying iPhone's from 3rd parties because of all the loopholes people find and use just to come up on some quick cash.
IMEI can help in finding if it blacklisted or not, but getting the seller to give you the IMEI when they knowingly are running a scam can be a real pain.
Thanks for the information, I'll be sure to pass it on to friends and family who may be thinking about purchasing an iPhone through a 3rd party.
IMEI can help in finding if it blacklisted or not, but getting the seller to give you the IMEI when they knowingly are running a scam can be a real pain.
Thanks for the information, I'll be sure to pass it on to friends and family who may be thinking about purchasing an iPhone through a 3rd party.
I think you read my comment wrong. By performing the purchase at an AT&T store, it would not prevent this issue from happening.