This is strange:
Order placed in Holland:
Ordered: 28th okt
Shipped: Today
Dutch Apple site (apple.nl) shows almost no shipping information, via apple.com I got the following information:
Shipped on: Nov 3, 2008 via Merge In Tnst NL Til (for laptop)
Shipped on: Nov 3, 2008 via Walsh Western B.V. (for laptop carrier)
Both companies trail back to The Netherlands, my own country!!
Stil somehow the site shows:
Delivers: 14 Nov, 2008 - 17 Nov, 2008
This means 11 days to get from Tilburg tot my place (about 20 km) 
I'll call them tomorrow to see if the information is correct, if so, I'll take the car and I'll go get it myself
Order placed in Holland:
Ordered: 28th okt
Shipped: Today
Dutch Apple site (apple.nl) shows almost no shipping information, via apple.com I got the following information:
Shipped on: Nov 3, 2008 via Merge In Tnst NL Til (for laptop)
Shipped on: Nov 3, 2008 via Walsh Western B.V. (for laptop carrier)
Both companies trail back to The Netherlands, my own country!!
Stil somehow the site shows:
Delivers: 14 Nov, 2008 - 17 Nov, 2008
I'll call them tomorrow to see if the information is correct, if so, I'll take the car and I'll go get it myself