Scared of Thieves!

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by Jim4D, Apr 15, 2015.

  1. Jim4D, Apr 15, 2015
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    Jim4D macrumors member

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    I've read of one anti theft device on the watch regarding apple pay but not much else.

    Once the watch is paired to a phone is it locked to that phone for good without some sort of code or do you think it will have a factory reset making it a goldmine for thieves?

    Iphone thefts have reduced massively no thanks to "find my Iphone" and the activation lock I was wondering if the watch had some kind of similar activation lock?

    What do people think on this subject?
     
  2. kovey macrumors 6502a

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    Oh lordie! Me oh my! Heavens! I eh-so scared!!

    No. Your own theory on a Rolex being difficult to sell makes no sense.
     
  3. Jim4D thread starter macrumors member

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    Okay maybe the Rolex point was bad(edited for clarity). Still a valid point of discussion though. Still a few valid point, Iphones were a high theft item especially around London, the theft rates have dropped largely due to the fact the phone is almost worthless once it has been activation locked.

    I can see the watch will become a high value theft target unless some safeguards are in place, are there any?

    Do people have insurance that cover themselves against theft for watches? Will the watch be covered?
     
  4. Stayfly2407 macrumors 6502

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    Who's going to leave their watch around anyway?
     
  5. Rayban macrumors regular

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    You'll leave your phone, wallet, and watch with a gun in your gut/back.
     
  6. bbeagle macrumors 68040

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    The area in which you are should determine whether you anything you wear or have in your possession should be worn / displayed. It's just common sense.

    An expensive watch should NOT be worn in a place where it's worth a month's salary of someone in that place.

    A woman should not wear a $1,000 necklace in a low-income neighborhood. A man shouldn't wear a $1,000 watch in a low-income neighborhood. It doesn't mean they CAN'T - just you're opening yourself up to some low-level scum person stealing your goods. Same as a high school where half the students are low-income.

    I'm not saying that low-income people are more prone to steal, but all you need is ONE. The word will get out that you're wearing a $1,000 Apple watch, and it just needs to trickle down to ONE person who wants to use that for gain, and your watch will be gone.

    High-income people steal too, but the reward/punishment ratio of a $1,000 watch will make it less likely to be stolen. Plus, there will be more people wearing/using $1,000+ items to make it 'normal'.

    Will I be taking off my watch and showing it to everyone at work? Yes. Will I go downtown to a bar and show everyone my watch? Hell, no.
     
  7. Diginari macrumors regular

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    I have gadget insurance which I use for all of my expensive items, such as phone, macbook, iMac etc. I will just add my watch to this, so if it's broken or stolen then I will be covered.
     
  8. schmittg macrumors newbie

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    Where do you get your gadget insurance? Also if you don't mind saying, how much does it cost you?
     
  9. Diginari macrumors regular

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    Of course I don't mind, I get it from my bank "Barclays" which is part of my account, costs me around £15.00 per month, also comes with Car breakdown cover which makes it a bargain really.
     
  10. Stayfly2407 macrumors 6502

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    Unless you have the Gold edition or flaunting your new watch to everyone u know and on social media u have nothing to worry about gzz. It ain't that serious.
     
  11. jclardy macrumors 68040

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    Ah, so we've escalated to armed robbery now.

    The majority of iPhone thefts before activation lock were in places like subways - people lightly hold their phone and someone grabs it and runs out as the door closes.

    Apple Watch being always visible will probably make you a higher value target for a thief, but ripping a watch off someones wrist is a bit more difficult than just grabbing a phone.

    Maybe if you are wearing an Edition model, otherwise I don't think this will be much of an issue.
     
  12. TAZ911 macrumors member

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    People have been robbed of their shoes, so to say that robbing someone of an apple watch is not likely is silly. This is going to be especially true if there is more to be gained from the watch than just the watch. If something like ApplePay can be accessed for a time or identity information gained it will make the watch a target. It won't be as easy to steal as a phone placed on a Starbucks table, but people have been stealing jewelry, including watches, from others since forever. Use your head when out in public and don't flaunt your possessions and attract unwanted attention. Common sense. If you get a gun stuck in your gut fork over your stuff and hope you live to buy another gadget.
     
  13. dspalton macrumors 6502a

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    In the UK - ProtectYourBubble are pretty good.
    Just putting in for a £500 device.... £4.99 a month

    http://bit.ly/1PNlava

    Dave
     
  14. blatch macrumors member

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    Much like the phone, a stolen  ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜ isn't going to do much for anyone.
     
  15. lellis2k macrumors 6502

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    Can you link to something that confirms this?

    What is the process when selling the watch compared to when someone steals the watch?
     
  16. AdonisSMU, Apr 23, 2015
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    Like the phone once the watch is activated good luck trying to steal it. Youre more likely to be tracked down by the cops directly to your location at worst or at best you have a tiny brick you cant even use.
     
  17. lellis2k macrumors 6502

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    The OS on the watches will inevitably break, when it does there has to be some way to reset it, if it's user-resettable (i.e. through button combination) then will thieves be able to do this too?
    If you have to take it to an Apple Store to reset it will they require proof-of-purchase? What if you bought one 2nd hand from eBay or a market-stall?
    I can't seem to find any info on this stuff.
     
  18. jwball macrumors regular

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    You mean like you can't do at the moment with an iPhone or 3rd Gen Apple TV?
    Why would the security break and not be patched?
     
  19. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

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    And if youre a buyer you can now check online if a person is authorized to resell the apple product. Its just not worth the trouble and risk for theives.
     
  20. lellis2k macrumors 6502

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    If you're phone fails to boot you can put it in DFU and restore it.

    I didn't say security, I said the OS will break, i.e. the watch will fail to boot, a corrupt update or anything could cause this.

    If I wasn't aware you could check online then most people don't know, and many won't care. Watches will get stolen, you can't deny that, I'm just trying to work out what happens when they do. Activation Lock cuts thefts through deterrence, I'd like to see the same true of the watch.
     
  21. bunnicula macrumors 68040

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    Insurance is the way to go. Even if they cannot do much with the watch as a unit, the parts are worth money. The band is easy money, especially if it's anything other than the sport.
     
  22. jwball macrumors regular

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    But activation lock will still require the icloud details to enable the phone so it remains useless.
     
  23. leenak macrumors 68020

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    I have to say the Apple watch would be the least of my concerns. My wedding set is worth way more than any apple watch, Ih more than most apple watches and even my purses are worth more than most of the apple watches.

    If you are walking down dark back alleys at night, maybe be concerned but otherwise I wouldn't be.
     
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    Think of the watch is bait for stupid criminals. Have fun.
     
  25. CmdrLaForge macrumors 68040

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    I believe every time you take off the watch from your wrist you have to sync it again with your phone for apple pay to work.
     

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