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hot spare said:
Will he also die from cancer?

Truly tasteless. :(
 
I knew I was right all along...for liking him! Everyone has got there own good and bad traits..but eventually, he make successful products, love what he does, have a nice family and is wealthy. And ofcos, he's been around Steve for so long that we don't need any other evidence to figure out he's tough.

Yeah and he was the best presenter at the recent keynote. The only one that seem truly excited about the product.
 
Oh look, the "press" is already trying to create another Jobs. :rolleyes:

This is what I wanted to say right at the beginning, thanks of being so concise.

Btw that business Week article has been amended with this from Tony Fadell:

“I inherited the competitive iPhone OS project from Jon Rubenstein and Steve Sakoman when they left Apple. I quickly shuttered the project after assessing that a modified Mac OS was the right platform to build the iPhone upon. It was clear that to create the best smartphone product possible, we needed to leverage the decades of technology, tools and resources invested in Mac OS while avoiding the unnecessary competition of dueling projects.”

http://www.businessweek.com/printer...e-sorcerers-apprentice-at-apple-10122011.html

Right at the bottom of the article.
 
I actually feel the opposite. Im not sure why, but whenever I see him on stage I just see snobbiness and jocky-ness. Obviously I don't know the guy and I could be wrong, but I sense that he's in his own world, and he's a douche to everyone. Of course, I could be wrong.
It's awesome that you say that, Steve's spirit is obviously alive and well at Apple.

THANK GOD!

Scott's time to rock has come!
 
Forstall is an ******* to work with. Just like Jobs was. And you do things Forstall's way or you don't have a job, if you're in the iOS department. As a person this makes him not the kind you'd want to meet and have a chat about.

But as someone in Apple, it's exactly what they need. He learnt well from Jobs. He knows well the saying "the camel was the horse designed by a committee". Appeasing everyone, the public of other co-workers just ends up with you making a compromised product. And Forstall is totally aware of this.

He is lucky he is at the top. Cause people like him who really are not a team player do not last long as any position that is not the top. Which is a shame cause his brilliance would have otherwise been wasted (Forstall being fired for being an *******).

So Forstall is lucky. He has a job where he can be as arrogant as he wants and still produce the best products in the world. And be paid a lot for doing so.
 
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in terms of presenting Apple's products Forstall brings the same boyish excitement about technology and confidence on stage, but he lacks Steve's charm - he's a little too much of a computer nerd. He's clearly a brilliant engineer and motivator within his own team, but I don't get the same sense of vision about bringing culture and taste into his products as I did with Jobs. Steve straddled the two (arts and technology); he could give us that sense of wide-eyed awe at how cool a new gadget or feature was, but he'd also make us feel that it was an important development culturally (as well as personally). I have my doubts that Forstall can do that.

In addition, they might both be exacting *******s, but Scott doesn't have Steve's credentials and authority - as a father to Apple and, more broadly, the entire personal computer industry. Forstall might inspire complete loyalty in his iOS division, but I don't think that he can gain the authority to marginalise the other executives and make Apple as a whole follow his vision. He also can't get away with as much; if he alienates too many people, they'll simply join forces to get him out (it even happened to Jobs, but somehow I doubt Scott would make the kind of comeback he did). The thing about him falling out with Ive is particularly worrying (if it's true).

As much as I loved the fact that Apple had a single, rigorous vision, I doubt that that's possible anymore. Hopefully Steve has indoctrinated enough people to replace him as a collective. That certainly seems to have been the plan.
 
looking forward

I wonder if SJ and the board saw Forstall as too much of a divisive figure and therefore chose Cook as a more unifying (versus polarizing) leader?

I think one of the most interesting aspects of this article is the tension between iOS and Mac teams.

I wonder if this is an indication of the future of Apple. Closed, proprietary tech that doesn't play well with others? I certainly hope not. iOS has chosen no flash compatibility perhaps initially for performance reasons, but now probably more out of preference.

One great thing about iChat is its compatibility with other messenger clients, FaceTime- not so much.

Now iCloud won't even sync documents with your Mac, much less a PC. iOS sync only. That's unfortunate and hopefully temporary, but who knows...

One thing that saved Apple from extinction was its reluctant acceptance of broader compatibility. I hope that will not be forgotten in this new era.
 
I know nobody can ever truly replace Steve Jobs, but among the new faces in these keynotes, I like Scott Forstall (iOS) and Hugo Barra (Android). The latter looks like B.J. Novak from The Office. Both guys show enthusiasm with their smile. Scott can look like he didn't have any sleep the night before, drank alot of coffee, and is way too EAGER to tell you something on-stage. But at least the enthusiasm is there. Tim and Phil just don't have that "it" factor. But again, nobody in Apple can ever replace Steve Jobs' leadership and charm.

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http://www.dailytech.com/Apples+chi...+Jobs+Executive+Legacy+Alive/article23003.htm
"Apple's chief ******" Forstall Keeps Steve Jobs Executive Legacy Alive
Jason Mick (Blog) - October 13, 2011 6:30 PM

Some employees have already quit after hearing one too many "Steve wouldn't like that" from iOS SVP

In the gaping leadership hole left by the death of Apple Inc.'s (AAPL) co-founder and driving force Steven P. Jobs, there's significant questions about who will step up and be the most "Jobsian".

I. The Disciple Has Borrowed Much From His Former Master


While Apple appointed Tim Cook to succede Mr. Jobs at the CEO spot, the quiet mild-mannered businessman seems an odd cog to replace flashy, obsessive, dictatorial, performance-driven former chief. But Apple's long-time marketing chief Phil Schiller and the head of internet services Eddy Cue don't feel like a much better fit.

Some are arguing that the iOS chief -- Scott Forstall -- is the most "Jobsian" and thus may be destined to one day lead the company. At the iPhone 4S unveil, Mr. Forstall, an Apple Senior Vice President, dropped into hyperbole and flashy presentations of the iPhone features that reminded many -- according to Bloomberg Business Week -- of Mr. Jobs.

The similarities are no coincidence. Reportedly Mr. Forstall -- 42 and the youngest Apple SVP -- was taken under the wing of Mr. Jobs, who served as his mentor. Andy Miller former head of Apple's iAd group describes Mr. Forstall's close relationship commenting, "He was as close to Steve as anybody at the company. When he says stuff, people listen."

At conferences he mirrors Mr. Jobs' fashion choices, wearing black shoes, jeans, and a black zippered sweater. On the go he drives a Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG, in silver -- the same car Mr. Jobs did.

II. A Ruthless, Yet Admired Leader

Like Mr. Jobs, Mr. Forstall has installed his name on numerous Apple patents -- 50 to be precise -- many of which Apple's competitors complain lift technology published in peer-reviewed literature ten years or more before the application. But in adapting to the lust for litigation Steve Jobs acquired in his later years, he's poised to continue Apple's strategy of using lawsuits as a tool against the mobile market's top players.

And he's also continuing some of Mr. Jobs other controversial habits, such as ruthlessly driving employees to perform and obsessing over every detail. In fact his favorite refrain is reportedly "Steve wouldn't like that" -- a phrase of used by Mr. Forstall to evoke shame in his underlings. And like his mentor Mr. Forstall is reportedly inspiring a high burnout rate, driving away Apple engineers to competitors.

Former Apple software engineer Mike Lee remarks, "I once referred to Scott as Apple’s chief a–hole. And I didn’t mean it as a criticism. I meant it as a compliment. You could say the same thing about Steve Jobs."

But in performance it's hard to argue with Mr. Forstall. He's engineered the world's second most used smartphone platform and the tablet used by more people around the world than another manufacturer or OS maker. And he's reportedly inspired his i-device staff to virtually live at Apple, skipping social events, and becoming fanatically devoted to the unit's products.

That latter accomplishment reminds many of Steve Jobs in the 1980s who led the Mac group which had an "us-versus-the-rest-of-Apple mentality". Wil Shipley, an independent software developer who works on site at Apple recalls, "Every iPhone engineer and iOS engineer I know at Apple has some of that. They will tease me that iOS is crushing Mac in sales."

In high school Mr. Forstall played the lead in his school's rendition of the Stephen Sondheim musical Sweeney Todd, reciting the harsh line, "There are two kinds of men, and only two. There's the one staying put in his proper place and one with his foot in the other one's face."

Now he lives by that line.

III. From Stanford to the King of iOS

Graduating from Stanford University, Mr. Forstall quickly assumed a leadership role, designing the "Aqua" Mac interface, which Steve Jobs once remarked made "you [want] to lick it". And he led the design of Leopard, another big computer success story for Apple.

In 2005 Mr. Jobs put his top staffers to the task of designing a mobile operating system for a phone. The iPod team was in charge of one design. They picked a customizable, Linux-based OS. Forstall's Mac team was in charge of the other design. He designed a closed-source Unix-like OS with cold exacting design and little customization.

Mr. Jobs reportedly expected the Linux team to triumph, but to his surprise it was Forstall who delivered the device with the best battery life and interface. So instead of making Android, before Android, Apple made iOS.

But Mr. Forstall, like Mr. Jobs did show selective flexibility when necessary. After disallowing third party applications on the first iPhone, he embraced them in the second generation. The result was the App Store -- an application market that smart phone leader Google Inc. (GOOG) has still been unable to surpass in pure app volume, despite holding nearly twice Apple's market share.

Looking ahead, everyone's question is where Apple will go without Mr. Jobs. With Tim Cook, Apple might end up looking more like a more demure, yet successful tech leader like Microsoft or Dell. With Forstall eventually taking command, though, Apple reportedly might look a lot like it would have had cancer not claimed the life of Mr. Jobs -- ruthless, stylish, flashy, polished, and ever hungry.
 
Scott as CEO

I have to admit, I think he looks gun-shy on stage.

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Some good, some bad.
 
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