Really, the ergonomics escape me...needs a stand, proper orientation, etc....with a phone, it's a whole lot less tiring to aim and shoot...
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Really, the ergonomics escape me...needs a stand, proper orientation, etc....with a phone, it's a whole lot less tiring to aim and shoot...
why oh why did this thing not come with a camera.....
It would have been pretty close to being "perfect" for a 1st gen device....
bring on the 2nd gen with camera, and the ability to run more than one app, and im sold.
I'm just wondering but if you iPhone is jailbroken, can't you use that as you wifi and forget about the 3G? In theory of course.
Just referring to the iCall app, it seems to be for Northern America only (atm any way), so not much use for the rest of the planet. I was very excited to see this, but now not so much. If this means Skype will be allowed to do it, I will be impressed.
I still cannot grasp why they didn't add a front facing cam. If this device let me do Skype and video iChat, I think it would be ideal. So now I am going to have to wait and see if there is a dock connect-able camera or else wait for a 2.0 revision.
I live in a different country to my family and a lot of folks I grew up with and use my laptop for video skype often in my lap sitting up. this device would have been perfect for me if it had a screen cam. Can't help but be a little un-impressed with this omission and the lack of multitasking and HDMI out.....
I live in a different country to my family and a lot of folks I grew up with and use my laptop for video skype often in my lap sitting up. this device would have been perfect for me if it had a screen cam. Can't help but be a little un-impressed with this omission and the lack of multitasking and HDMI out.....
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I know, right? I haven't had a landline at home since '99. Actually, we've got one now (it's bundled with our 100mbps fiber) but we've never actually plugged in the phone we bought for it a few years back. Last I checked, it was in my two-year-old's toy box. heh
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I know, right? I haven't had a landline at home since '99. Actually, we've got one now (it's bundled with our 100mbps fiber) but we've never actually plugged in the phone we bought for it a few years back. Last I checked, it was in my two-year-old's toy box. heh
I haven't had a home landline for about 10 years now... sounds like you're a late adaptor
Same here, my cable package deal (internet / digital TV / analog TV / phone) includes a phoneline, but I only use my mobile. Who actually needs a landline nowadays anyway? That ship has sailed years ago...
What the hell is a micro SIM card? I've used many many many carriers worldwide and I've NEVER seen a carrier use anything else than a normal SIM card (I thought all SIM cards were the same size). Hell, SIM cards are small enough, why make them smaller? I don't think space is such an issue on this device!
Buyer's guide? Mindows/Padows?
I haven't found the iPad in the Buyer's Guide. It's a shame, because I wanted to see, how long until an upgrade.
There is already enough articles about the product. I can imagine that there are more front page articles about tablet than the MacBook range.
One last thing...
Snow Leopard doesn't support touch screen, Windows 7 does. Why do people bash the latter on other tablets, why so many are disappointed not to have Snow Leopard on any tablet?
Perhaps following 'Hackintosh', it's time for 'Mindows'? Or 'Padows'? 'Macdows'?
I haven't found the iPad in the Buyer's Guide. It's a shame, because I wanted to see, how long until an upgrade.
There is already enough articles about the product. I can imagine that there are more front page articles about tablet than the MacBook range.
One last thing...
Snow Leopard doesn't support touch screen, Windows 7 does. Why do people bash the latter on other tablets, why so many are disappointed not to have Snow Leopard on any tablet?
Perhaps following 'Hackintosh', it's time for 'Mindows'? Or 'Padows'? 'Macdows'?
The problem is you really need an emergency line you can depend on. In the UK I remember a case where a woman died because their only emergency line was a mobile phone out of coverage (I can't remember all the details but that was the gist).
1) At this time the price of memory would have ruined final price points
2) you need a wider bezel to hold the thing
3) A third OS version? Not practical. And no one should expect thi type of device to run SL
4) A different ratio would make the thing awkwardly ugly (not like a familiar pad of paper). Letterbox your movie or pan and scan.
5) The icons ARE larger than the iPhone icons.
The expectations were for an impractical product to do EVERYTHING. It will do 99% of what most people do on computers.
why oh why did this thing not come with a camera.....
It would have been pretty close to being "perfect" for a 1st gen device....
bring on the 2nd gen with camera, and the ability to run more than one app, and im sold.
Well a camera is probably good for one thing and that's video conferencing, is the iPad the best thing for this, how you you keep it in the correct position? If i'm on the couch, I don't want to hold this thing in a fixed position, as my arms will ache. It's different if your working on this, as the angle is not so important, you can rest it on your knees or on your lap, but I think the camera would be constantly at the wrong angle. I think an iMac or a Macbook is still a better way to do video conferencing, as the screen that holds the camera is fix in a position. I think it would be better in an iPhone for quick video chats, but even then i'm not sure.
If they made an AppleTV with a camera or a display for the AppleTV with a built in camera, I think that would be a real success!
I maybe wrong, and iPad 2.0 will have a forward facing camera, but by then it shouldn't impact on the price, which I know they are trying to keep as low as possible.
Agreed on all points. So many people are upset because what they really wanted was a modbook made by apple. What we got was something that is more useful for more people. It's like one of the posts I read where someone called Logic a basic user app. Please, basic apps are what 80-90% of people use on a daily bases. This covers all of them. I started saving for this thing months ago, already planning on selling my hackintosh msi wind(which all I use for is surfing and email) and going to get the 64GB 3G. Give me a good citrix client and this is what I will take to my meetings at the hospital where I work. The only thing I didn't see that I would have liked is a landscape stand; and I know someone will make a rotating stand so I'm not too concerned.
Even if you sort out the network issues according to which even with a GSM codec you will have huge delays over EDGE and 3G due to high packet loss (bandwidth is fine latency isn't, maybe some providers in Europe are fine) VOIP without multitasking only gets half the job done. OK, you can make calls. But personally I also have an interest in receiving them
I run VOIP over 3g on my Nokia E71 now here in the UK (Carrier is the 'Three' network) and it's pretty good for me. Three give free Skype access for life on their service too, which also works pretty well. I prefer to use Nokia's built in VOIP/SIP software though as it integrates fully with the address book and the rest of the phone. Nokia also have a SIP custom tool for tweaking the codecs used so you can get really good call quality.
You're spot on about multitasking though. Without being able to run a multitasking VOIP solution, it's mostly pointless.
A third reason is that VOIP/SIP applications have to maintain registration with the service provider. I don't see a way of doing that without a full on background task daemon. Apple needs to add SIP and open it up to third parties.
That's why Apple should implement the SIP stack and control it's power usage. That's how Nokia does it. It's not a battery hog on a Nokia. I can easily go a couple of days on my E71 though it does have a 1500mAh battery. iPhone batteries are smaller despite the iPhone begin larger than an E71.
They're all fully integrated on Symbian and on Maemo too. Maemo (on the N900) even adds Skype integration. The problem is for you in the USA that you'd have to buy an unlocked Nokia as AT&T screws about with Nokia's phones to limit features.
This is a big disappointment, for this device to be really good, it should be running Snow Leopard. One of the problems I see with the iPhone is that it doesn't have a decent fine system. So passing data between applications is problematic..
Is there going to be an iWork app for this device, to make it useful? What about Office?
I was expecting a little bit more, although I am glad that iPad doesn't alienate my lovely MacBook Pro!
Is there going to be an iWork app for this device, to make it useful? What about Office?
I was expecting a little bit more, although I am glad that iPad doesn't alienate my lovely MacBook Pro!
I think the ipad beats Chrome OS at it's own game. The OS starts up immediately and you can browse the web immediately afterwards. Also you've got the entire iworks suite at your disposal so that takes care of your word processing and spreadsheet needs
Correct! A netbook witch Chrome OS is junk. Compare the ipad with that. Not with a macbook. AND the ipad is ideal for books & magazines, wich we will see in the future. I think the main reason is, it's a cool mobile READER.
Apparently they've added a 'Shared Folder' which is a common storage area for documents created on the iPad. When you connect it to your Mac, the shared folder also appears in the Finder so you can swap documents between the iPad and Mac.
I would guess this is coming to iPhone OS 3.2 also and that there will be integration with MobileMe.
Watch the announcement video on Apple.com. They've demos of Pages, Numbers and Keynote. Office - who knows (or even cares) other than Microsoft?
Last night was... awful. Let's not meet again, OK?
I'm just reading the posts from last night. Man, people are genuinely pissed off!
Meanwhile, I realised something. They called it iPad for a reason. OLD PEOPLE!
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I have never ever been in the situation, where I felt like a pro-Apple figure on this site. Anyway, I am thinking of selling my iPhone to get one of these (to get it jailbroken) or another tablet from another manufacturer. I hate the iPhone and with a decent Nokia phone and a lightweight web browser, I wouldn't have to travel with my MacBook Pro. I can see that I will hate all the limitations, but that's Apple.
But 60-90 days to ship the bloody thing? Is this a prototype? Please, Apple, put a camera on it, before it gets to the UK! I suppose, multitasking will foloow by jailbreaking. God, I hate when people decide how I want to use something. If I corrupt some system files, so what? I CAN RECOVER THE BLOODY THING!
I'm just reading the posts from last night. Man, people are genuinely pissed off!
Meanwhile, I realised something. They called it iPad for a reason. OLD PEOPLE!
.........
I have never ever been in the situation, where I felt like a pro-Apple figure on this site. Anyway, I am thinking of selling my iPhone to get one of these (to get it jailbroken) or another tablet from another manufacturer. I hate the iPhone and with a decent Nokia phone and a lightweight web browser, I wouldn't have to travel with my MacBook Pro. I can see that I will hate all the limitations, but that's Apple.
But 60-90 days to ship the bloody thing? Is this a prototype? Please, Apple, put a camera on it, before it gets to the UK! I suppose, multitasking will foloow by jailbreaking. God, I hate when people decide how I want to use something. If I corrupt some system files, so what? I CAN RECOVER THE BLOODY THING!
point 4. US letter is named US letter for a reason. The world uses the most aesthetic and ubiquitous format. I'll let you use Google to find out what the shape is.
Basically Apple could have done better with the form factor.
why oh why did this thing not come with a camera.....
It would have been pretty close to being "perfect" for a 1st gen device....
bring on the 2nd gen with camera, and the ability to run more than one app, and im sold.
Agreed. Waiting for Rev.B
