Security flaw with face ID

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by thewall, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. thewall macrumors member

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    Serious security flaw with face id and not touch id, if somebody picks up your phone scans your face their in, not so with touch id, Apple need to rethink this before launch hope the press pick up on this
     
  2. 0928001 Suspended

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    What? They aren't going to cancel the launch.
     
  3. dojoman macrumors 65816

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    Just close your eyes when the cops are arresting you problem solved. Now you only have to go to jail for 10 yrs instead of life sentence.
     
  4. Ryan1524 macrumors 68000

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    How is that any different that someone grabbing your phone, and you to auth by fingerprint?

    No security system is impenetrable. The only question that matters: is it good enough?
     
  5. thewall thread starter macrumors member

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    What!!!! so a thief grabs your phone a you r going to put your finger on it to open it for them, how nice are you !!!
     
  6. boast macrumors 65816

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    Just look at the thief and not the phone when he puts it in front of your face :)
     
  7. Ryan1524 macrumors 68000

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    I don't follow...a thief can't run away with my face either...

    If it's a confrontational situation, then an attacker can force me to use either FaceID or TouchID to unlock. If they are stealing the device, they can't (I hope) take my finger or my face.
     
  8. redheeler macrumors 604

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    If Face ID works as fast as Touch ID 2nd gen, you wouldn't even have enough time to look away or block your face. If it doesn't, well, that's not ideal for everyday use. :)
     
  9. ericg301 macrumors 65816

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    yeah im sure they, and their lawyers, havent thought through every. possible. scenario.
     
  10. Ryan1524 macrumors 68000

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    Maybe there can be a "Siri, go into lockdown." where it disables any auth but a complicated process which is difficult to do quickly - for emergencies or privacy. And the voice recog can also be imprinted into secure enclave.
     
  11. big samm macrumors 65816

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    I wouldn’t be worried for thief, but more from law enforcement or border patrol in more dangerous countries ... In ios 11 you can click the power button 5 times to deactivate touch id, im sure they will implement that feature on the iPhone x to deactivate face id...
     
  12. azBoB macrumors newbie

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    From a law enforcement stand point a simple "Is this your phone?" Question unlocks your phone. Allowing law enforcement to look through the "open" phone.
     
  13. Dexterama macrumors regular

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    We just need to develop quicker/better reflexes. This is like the basilisk from Chamber of Secrets, just don't glance at it directly.
     
  14. x-evil-x macrumors 601

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    This is why you have insurance.
    Stop worrying so much for the chances like this to happen.
    Live your life
    God I need some coffee
     
  15. Jtludwig, Sep 13, 2017
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    Put on your foil hat![​IMG]
     
  16. FelixDerKater macrumors 68030

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    Add to that the fact that they'd still need your passcode to unlock it a second time or disable any of the other security features.
     
  17. jicon macrumors 6502

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    Obviously a lot of people in here learned nothing from the movie FaceOff.. Brothers... daughters... all fooled quite easily.
     
  18. Stewie macrumors 6502

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    Or here is a really wide thought, don't leave your phone laying about if there is the chance someone could take it. It is hard for me to imagine the amount of energy people use up thinking of all these never going to happen scenarios. It must be nice to have so much free time.
     
  19. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    LOL. I would pull out my Glock and request they returned it.
     
  20. montanaco macrumors 6502

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    LMFAO. Only in 2017 do we hear stories of thieves taking your phone, forcing you to look into it, and then briskly skipping into the sunset.

    Seriously though, in what world are you so defenseless a thief can take your phone, make you look into it AND get away? What?
     
  21. danny842003 macrumors 6502a

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    Security flaw with pin code, thief threatens you with a knife and makes you enter pin.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 27, 2017 ---
    I’m not a pedo/terrorist so I’m not that worried.
     
  22. deadworlds, Sep 27, 2017
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    Macrumors posted an article a few weeks ago talking about a security feature of the iPhone X, or maybe it was in the keynote, if someone were to have your phone and their hands were on the volume buttons and/Or sleep/wake button, it won’t use FaceID. Otherwise people handing you your phone back would cause it to unlock.
     
  23. Peter K. macrumors 6502a

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    I wonder if FaceID will be able to differentiate between identical twins.
     
  24. deadworlds macrumors 65816

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    At the keynote they said most likely not.
     
  25. applewatch macrumors 6502

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    Or you can press the Side Button, Volume Up and Down buttons all at once to only allow a passcode for entry on the iPhone X
     

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