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Screenshots? Really? The entire premise sounds preposterous. That's the best we can come up with? I mean whenever I take a screenshot to save for later, I feel I am just being lazy only to one day have to clean up the hard drive all those images that I have forgotten about and unwittingly hoarded and never used. And that's not even getting to the security aspect of it. There has to be a better way lol
 
We were originally told that Windows 10 was the last Windows, Windows would become a service. Now they are killing 10 and replacing it with 11 which obsoletes maybe half of all windows machines which it does not support.
One of the worst parts about the change to 11 is the compatibility. So many currently used PCs are not compatible (for hardware reasons) with 11. I have seen that some that initially claim that their PC isn't compatible really just need to go into the BIOS and make a few changes, but you cannot expect the average user to know that. So not only did they basically lie about 10, but with not supporting 10 soon basically force upgrading a lot of PCs since especially businesses will need to have latest updates (at least any company that I worked for)
Windows 11 requires a Gen8 CPU and BIOS with TPM2.0 support.
That is like, every PC sold since at least 2018 (Gen8 was available Q4 2017)
Computers older than that really should've been recycled long ago.
One reason Windows has problems is the endless backwards compatibility.
Here's to hoping MS will get rid of even more old crud in Windows 12 and obsolete even more old computers.
 
This should be interesting. Hopefully Microsoft gets the security figured out before launch. It will be interesting to know how much of a risk this really is for the average user.
I read, that they spy like hell on they'r users with AI. If they find something, you will loose the licenses for MS Office, Windows or other products.
 
Windows 11 requires a Gen8 CPU and BIOS with TPM2.0 support.
That is like, every PC sold since at least 2018 (Gen8 was available Q4 2017)
Computers older than that really should've been recycled long ago.
One reason Windows has problems is the endless backwards compatibility.
Here's to hoping MS will get rid of even more old crud in Windows 12 and obsolete even more old computers.
Users should decide, which hardware they use. Not Microsoft..
 
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“The user does not want it…” as you have said..

The real question is WHO wants it…
 
Apples use of machine learning has been solid so far. This new stuff is weird.
And maybe is why Apple seems to be slow or “behind” as to the trend (as others have said).

Unfortunately, Apple will have to go “all in” on A.I. to keep up with everyone else. A.I. has it place for the future, but what and where it seems to be going toward I am not a fan.
 
People keep making comments on how this is a huge privacy risk. I kind of think that's funny because no offense if a company someone works for doesn't care about privacy, they have had access to everything for a very long time now. I had to fight quite hard to get my place to convert from MDM to MAM on personal devices a few years back. In 2024 that's a question I would ask flat out interviewing, if you haven't switched to MAM regardless of reason, I will not work for you.
"Reasons" can very well be regulation. What are they supposed to do? Sure, we do not need to _force_ stuff on your device, but then we would need to make _sure_ you are within regulation.
Your work device is not your personal device. Keep it that way.
 
Sounded like a bad idea in the first place. Just think about how mich storage space you need to make a screen shot every few seconds. Even if you delete them after a while, it will put an enormous strain on your SSD.

Besides that I do not want any AI to access my private information. Sooner or later AIs will be so smart that they are basically living creatures.
 
This led to me sticking Fedora 40 on my gaming pc lol.

So far so good, it plays the games I wanted to run on it just fine. I've dabbled with running fun things on my PCs for years but up until now I mostly kept my gaming PC on windows because it'd run any ole game and I was too lazy. Plus I spend a lot of time using Linux at work, since that's my bread and butter, baby! So I felt like it was nice to have something different to toy with...

but MS is just getting weirder and weirder. I never liked Windows anyway. It's never really felt like an OS for the end user, it's always felt like an OS for your employer's computer or whatever. Nothing more.
 
Oh, come on. So, there should be no progress?
"I bought this 386 in 1989. It was a very expensive computer, Microsoft is awful for not supporting it 35 years later"
I had one. 386SX with 12MB Ram. With a trick i ran even win98 on it. Anyway... Any I5 with 8 gigs of ram will run win11. It just depends, what you need the pc for. I switches few years ago to Linux; better support, runs perfectly, for my stuff more than enough. Gamers will need something else. If you depend on ms programs, you need to buy, what they say. I personally think, the market is changing. Linux is growing fast. ARM is getting stronger. Hell - even a Raspberry 5 is doing a great job for "regular" users.
 
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No-one asked for Windows 11.

We were originally told that Windows 10 was the last Windows, Windows would become a service. Now they are killing 10 and replacing it with 11 which obsoletes maybe half of all windows machines which it does not support.

Worse it is filling 11 with things no-one wants or asked for. Edge is basically a personal information stealer. Now Windows wants to put that into the OS. Worse still they are shoehorning AI nonsense everywhere, ready or not.

An no, this will not making me use a Mac, no matter how much I enjoy my iPad and iPhone. Probably will go to a version of Linux if this madness doesn’t stop. I probably wont have to decide for a while yet.
I got a notification from Feedback that Microsoft wanted my opinion. I don't normally reply to these.

I said that, since the Copilot Preview, gaming performance has been much lower and that system stability was not as good, either.

I wonder how good SteamOS is at running Windows-based graphics applications.
 
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No-one asked for Windows 11.

We were originally told that Windows 10 was the last Windows, Windows would become a service. Now they are killing 10 and replacing it with 11 which obsoletes maybe half of all windows machines which it does not support.

Worse it is filling 11 with things no-one wants or asked for. Edge is basically a personal information stealer. Now Windows wants to put that into the OS. Worse still they are shoehorning AI nonsense everywhere, ready or not.

An no, this will not making me use a Mac, no matter how much I enjoy my iPad and iPhone. Probably will go to a version of Linux if this madness doesn’t stop. I probably wont have to decide for a while yet.
I keep a Windows 10 machine running for a few quite minor things which are not available on macOS. And some features of Microsoft Office which work differently on Windows to macOS - which is itself a huge pain.

In other words, not enough to justify a new PC which is compatible with W11.

Am currently wondering how long it will be before Microsoft issue an Office update that in incompatible with Windows 10? Whether inadvertently or on purpose. And screws up my current Office.

My limited use means I could probably never connect to the internet but that would preclude using cloud storage would make that a pain. And I can't remember how Office licensing works long term if not connected...
 
Well, Amazon will start charging AI on Alexa devices (In a more immersive way) shortly. What the future of devices will require. You can have it pay for it or not use it. simple.
 
Anyone communicating with a windows 11 recall user is also subject to security risks. “End to end security” is meaningless if the operating system is recording all communication.

Expect most future users to leave this enabled by default. Most people are not savvy enough to disable these features, let alone care about the implications.
 
It is just a bad idea period. Any idiot who has any knowledge of computers can see the risks. Im shocked this feature made it this far along.
 
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We were originally told that Windows 10 was the last Windows, Windows would become a service. Now they are killing 10 and replacing it with 11 which obsoletes maybe half of all windows machines which it does not support.
Everything you mention would still have happened if Microsoft kept the Windows 10 label and has little to do with Windows 11 in itself. It's just policy. Branding is mostly marketing and pretty much irrelevant when it comes to things like this. The "Windows as a service" thing is still maintained as Windows 11 is a free update to existing users, just like Windows 10 was. "Windows as a service" ≠ "Windows will support your current hardware indefinitely".

Fun facts: Apple dropped an entire architecture (PPC) when Mac OS X was still, well, Mac OS X (v10.5 > v10.6) and with it a whole generation of Macs. When the company transitioned from PPC to Intel a couple of years before they didn't even bother with a new Mac OS X 10.x release. They simply shipped the first Intel Macs with Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, which was already readily available for PPC hardware for months. The shift from macOS v10.15 to macOS v11 has been largely arbitrary and as it would seem a last-minute decision; the first Developer Preview was still branded as macOS v10.16.
 
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I wonder how good SteamOS is at running Windows-based graphics applications.
I’ve used a steam deck which is an underpowered device compared to modern AMD cpus and it games like a dream.

But different applications work differently. It’s absolutely optimized for gaming.
 
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