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Security Update 2004-09-16
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That's quite interesting. I didn't even know there was that functionality to begin with.feeze said:
They replaced the IM framework, not the iChat application. Whenever shared libraries are modified, Apple like to force a reboot since they can't know for certain if third-party programs are also trying to use it. It's a very smart move on their part since Mac customers aren't expected to realize that their computers run Unix, let alone know about library dependencies for all the programs they run.ifjake said:
"Security"
I would not call this a security update as it's not really a problem of security unless you click on the link. It's more of a stupid user fix. How many stupid users would then click on the icon in the Finder??
I would not call this a security update as it's not really a problem of security unless you click on the link. It's more of a stupid user fix. How many stupid users would then click on the icon in the Finder??
gorkonapple said:
Well, as long as you cut Microsoft the same slack when similar IE bugs are found - as they are, too frequently...
This makes me think of the shell-launching URL bugs that were found in IE and in Mozilla just a little while ago. Not really a bug in the application itself; but rather what the OS was willing to let the application do. Actually, that also probably explains why this patch required a reboot.
Abstract said:
it's not sweet. when there are updates available it also means that there are vulnerabilities. of course it's far better than having those vulnerabilities and no patches to fix them.
macridah said:
Saying "[Insert Apple Application Update Here] seems snappier" has almost become as annoyingly bad as Slashdot's "Imagine a Beowolf cluster of these..." or "but does it run Linux?".
It's cliché now so please everybody just stop, the joke is over, take your placebo and enjoy it in private. There is no difference to your application speed!
Installed, everything runs ok, it just messed my Mail.app settings a bit, after the restart it showed the "in MAilbox" column ... I already fixed that, ...iChat...hmm, by now I'm using Adium... that duck rules!
Abstract said:
IMO-- MacBytes is for news articles/ web pages/ pictures / opinions about Apple. MacRumors is for news and rumors that I care about. I don't want to go to MacBytes and see this patch mixed in with everything else on there. It's a good idea to put this on MR home page, or else I wouldn't know about it right now. Leave MacBytes for articles.
I'm one of the poor souls who can't now get iSight to work. Well I can, I get onto the floor, go round the back of Power Mac, pull out the firewire cable, go to 'restart', wait until iChat times it out 4 or 5 times (iChat won't force quit), restart, open ichat, slide round the back of the mac, plug in iSight again. Then it works.
I suppose if iChat stops working then it's more secure - no one can send me one of those dodgy links
I suppose if iChat stops working then it's more secure - no one can send me one of those dodgy links
swissandrew said:I'm one of the poor souls who can't now get iSight to work. Well I can, I get onto the floor, go round the back of Power Mac, pull out the firewire cable, go to 'restart', wait until iChat times it out 4 or 5 times (iChat won't force quit), restart, open ichat, slide round the back of the mac, plug in iSight again. Then it works.
I suppose if iChat stops working then it's more secure - no one can send me one of those dodgy links
I'm not sure but you may try just closing the lens, rotate it to one side then the other and iChat should start... at the beginning for whatever reason I has that problem and it helped, since a long time I haven't had issues with iSight, hope it helps, so you don't have to drag yourself for every chat...
At least Apple are working on fixes to prevent stupid users, and things you'd never think of; unlike some nameless other nameless vendors who can't seem to close all the holes.soosy said:I was thinking the same thing. It almost borders on sacrificing functionality just to protect stupidness....
On the other hand it's a very very minor thing that I didn't even know existed so oh well
...although maybe the guys working iChat at Cupertino would be better used getting that Tiger to us a bit quicker
is it normal for an operating system as solid-rock as Mac OSX to have to be updated for security this often?
toughboy said:
If there are that many vulnerabilities found in pieces/parts of the OS, definitely. I'd rather have move updates to contend with that coping with a compromised machine.
daveway00 said:
ichat wasn't broken, it just that some of the functionality in ichat could be exploited to compromise your computer.
toughboy said:
I think this is one thing that make OS X as "solid-rock" as it is. No system is perfect. Some one, some where will find a way to exploit it. To say otherwise is just wrong and not being realistic.
The fix isn't the problem but rather the concern is you start getting to many then people feel like they can't "compute safe" and don't bother with updating. Conversly, if Apple holds back and rolls many updates in to one then the system could be left vulnerable. I think Apple has done a fairly good job providing timely updates but not overwhelming the consumer. This time, however, I have to agree with some of those who asked why this couldn't have been rolled in to the update only a few days ago? There could be many reasons and most likely either way Apple would have people complaining.
yellow said:
Me too.. I understand that nothing can be perfect too, but werent these updates released a bit "frequent" these days???
System Change
Its not an iChat update. Its a security update. This requires the system to be changed. That change, requires a restart.
Tuttle said:
Its not an iChat update. Its a security update. This requires the system to be changed. That change, requires a restart.
brap said:At least Apple are working on fixes to prevent stupid users, and things you'd never think of; unlike some nameless other nameless vendors who can't seem to close all the holes.
...although maybe the guys working iChat at Cupertino would be better used getting that Tiger to us a bit quicker
I agree, although it does seem that there has been several lately.
I think that Steve has an adequate number working on Tiger. Confident that they are progressing at a steady pace.
hrmph. the update turned off all my menu bar options (ie clock, battery meter, airport status) and iChat refused to open. A quick permissions repair and I was back in business. Maybe I'm just grumpy this morning, but it was kind of annoying.
ah well, now i can sleep at night knowing iChat won't start apps without warning.
ah well, now i can sleep at night knowing iChat won't start apps without warning.
Ichat won't work now :-(
I dunno, I can't open ichat now. The drop down list at top says who is on, but I just get an error beep when I click buddy list or try to double click it in finder.
I dunno, I can't open ichat now. The drop down list at top says who is on, but I just get an error beep when I click buddy list or try to double click it in finder.