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See watchOS 4.1's Music Streaming and New Radio App in Action
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I wanted to wait for further developer betas just in case there's some bugs in here that may hurt me, but not having access to my iCloud Music Library in 4.0 hurt me so that I'm loading this on my Series 1 now. I pray for stability....!
These MacRumors videos are so annoying with the announcers constantly using happy, whole world is joyful, cliche radio announcer voices. Talk normally, please! And while you’re at it can you change the little bumper music which was taken from something else? I can’t remember what it was though.
There are currently no Apple Watch apps for other streaming services (that operate independently from the iPhone) that I know of - I don't think there is an API for controlling music in the background either, so if another streaming service did finally make an app it would have to stay in the foreground to function.
I did the same thing on my S3, and so far it has been perfectly stable for me and it fixed a lot of connectivity issues (where it would lose connection and not connect to LTE for example). Battery life also seems the same to me. I don't know if this will restore your iCloud Library functionality though...
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Anyone using it on T-Mobile? Interested to see if their limited speed to the LTE watch inhibits music. 500kbs should in theory allow it to work....
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Nevermind. Answered my own question. Looks like there backlash from customers got T-Mobile to include LTE at the $10 monthly price.
http://bgr.com/2017/09/18/apple-watch-3-lte-plans-t-mobile-vs-verizon/
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Nevermind. Answered my own question. Looks like there backlash from customers got T-Mobile to include LTE at the $10 monthly price.
http://bgr.com/2017/09/18/apple-watch-3-lte-plans-t-mobile-vs-verizon/
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Install watch beta profile to your iPhone not the watch. If still not showing, reboot phone and watch.
Please APPLE, bring back the feature to browse and initiate remote control over my extensive library stored on my iPhone! This sucks!
For those who want this WELL USED feature back, go to bugreport.apple.com and login (free dev acct) and put in a request to add/change feature! The more of us that protest, the better the chances are they will bring it back.
For those who want this WELL USED feature back, go to bugreport.apple.com and login (free dev acct) and put in a request to add/change feature! The more of us that protest, the better the chances are they will bring it back.
I'm with you! I don't believe they removed this feature.. This was the reason for me to move to apple music from spotify...
Perhaps they will bring back the feature in the Remote app?
I'll definitely fill in the bug report.
I am confused. I have Apple Watch Series 2. I have developers iOS 11.1 and Watch 4.1. Still don't find music library even though I subscribe to Apple Music. On WiFi. Is this limited to Series 3 even via WiFi? Essentially, I see nothing different in 4.1 from 4.0 in terms of access to music library available on watch (still no iTunes music library or access to iPhone library apart from "now playing" once started on iPhone).
Today's watchOS 4.1 beta, seeded to developers this morning, introduces support for streaming music directly to the Apple Watch over LTE and it brings a new Radio app with access to Beats 1 live and other Apple Music radio stations.
We went hands-on with the beta to get a look at the new features, which are primarily aimed at Apple Music subscribers who have a Series 3 Apple Watch.
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The Music app on the watch looks mostly the same with access to your Music Library, recently played songs, playlists, and Apple Music mixes, but now all of your music content can be streamed over an LTE connection on the Series 3 Apple Watch models and doesn't need to be downloaded to your device.
With the update, you have access to the full range of Apple Music content, and can ask Siri to play songs with or without a phone and over WiFi or LTE.
The new Radio app houses all of your Apple Music radio stations and provides access to Beats 1 radio content. Siri can also create new radio stations with requests like "Play Taylor Swift" or "Play something fun."
It's not yet clear just how much streaming music over an LTE connection will affect battery life, but when possible, the Apple Watch will use the iPhone's connection or a WiFi connection to conserve battery.
These new features are available in watchOS 4.1, which is only available to developers at the current time. Apple doesn't offer watchOS public betas, so non-developers will need to wait for the update to be released to try out the new music capabilities.
Article Link: See watchOS 4.1's Music Streaming and New Radio App in Action
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I loaded on my Series 2 but nothing seems to have changed. If it works for you please advise.
Apple doesn't make apps for other companies. If you want Pandora or Spotify then you should reach out to them to make those work over LTE.
Done that been there. Still nothing.
Gonna go to an Apple Store and see how smart they are.....
I’m just spitballing but maybe the W2 chip supports certain power saving features that make listening to AM on the 3 not destroy your battery life? Or maybe the CPU is not strong enough to handle it for some reason? I’m not sure if anyone has checked to see if it works on a GPS only AW3 but if it does that could be the reason. Or maybe they are just focusing on getting it working on LTE right now and left out the other models until the final version is out? I don’t think Apple intended the Watch to be used without being near your iPhone regularly until they added LTE so maybe the omission is a philosophical one.
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I guess another way of asking is...is it possible for other apps to stream over LTE or even over wifi from the watch directly without the phone.
As far as I know (unless they changed it recently) Apple does not have an API for controlling audio playback in the background on the Watch. This means that while you can certainly make a streaming app it will have to be in the foreground for it to work - if you want to do something else on the watch playback will stop.
They also have the power to block apps from being added to the App Store, I'm not sure what they would do if one was submitted.
He wasn't talking about background play. He was discussing if other apps can get data over LTE. They can I've connected to Outlook over LTE on the Watch. So that means if the app supports it Spotify and such could stream music as well. The current versions do not, because they aren't designed to look for an LTE data connection. I would expect Spotify and Pandora to release updates to their apps soon to stay in competition with Apple Music.
proper!
What I meant, and not offensively cause I’ve always been poor growing up and not yet middle class yet halfway though life, is in other nations where the highest spent item beyond rent and food is a $200 phone as an example. Exaggeration and no specific statistics but I’m sure many can get the gist of what I intended.
I did see Florida patrols going to beach front property (Bloomberg highlighted) on megaphone announcing to residents that wanted to stay up to 6-8hrs prior to Irma hitting. Great cell towers did he broadcast as well. Hoping you’re able to recover well.
Wow. This thread is all over the map.
For people running the beta some simple questions. I have a really big AM library including iTunes Match. I’m curious about browsing.
Can you download music? This would be handy and skip the slow Bluetooth transfer from the iPhone.
For playlists that you’be loaded manually, is there any way to distinguish them from AM content?
I’m assuming the old music app interface is the same, with tabs for artists, albums, songs, etc.
For people running the beta some simple questions. I have a really big AM library including iTunes Match. I’m curious about browsing.
Can you download music? This would be handy and skip the slow Bluetooth transfer from the iPhone.
For playlists that you’be loaded manually, is there any way to distinguish them from AM content?
I’m assuming the old music app interface is the same, with tabs for artists, albums, songs, etc.
Thanks! I thought everyone knew that meme, but there are kids new to this, apparently.
Maybe I'm the only one that's been confused by this, but to me Apple has not been very clear about what you will be able to stream.
I'm on the new watchOS 4.1 Beta, so I have Radio and the updated Music app on the Watch. I think most are reading the notes to believe you are able to stream all your music when away from your phone. However reading back through the description, it's very nuanced but seems to say untethered streaming is only through radio? Is that true? If so, not overly impressive - I want to be able to stream all of my music untethered, not just Beats channels.
With watchOS 4.1, you can stream music, giving you access to any song from Apple Music or
your iCloud Music Library, straight from the wrist. The new Radio app also gives you access to
Beats 1 live or any Apple Music radio station while away from your phone or Wi-Fi.
That second line seems to say you can only stream their new Radio Beats 1 or Apple Music Radio when away from your phone. When I'm away from my phone, the only songs/artists/albums showing up on my phone are ones that I've downloaded/synced previously. If I'm connected to my phone, then I see my whole library and I can stream from the phone through the watch (I assume that's the path) to my air pods. When I'm tethered to the phone, the songs that aren't downloaded show up with a little cloud next to them.
Again, if I'm only able to stream Apple Radio when untethered, it's a lot less impressive. I should be able to go for a run/walk or work out without having to have my phone with me and have access to my library that's stored with Apple via Match or Music.
Maybe I'm the only one that didn't get this detail?
I'm on the new watchOS 4.1 Beta, so I have Radio and the updated Music app on the Watch. I think most are reading the notes to believe you are able to stream all your music when away from your phone. However reading back through the description, it's very nuanced but seems to say untethered streaming is only through radio? Is that true? If so, not overly impressive - I want to be able to stream all of my music untethered, not just Beats channels.
With watchOS 4.1, you can stream music, giving you access to any song from Apple Music or
your iCloud Music Library, straight from the wrist. The new Radio app also gives you access to
Beats 1 live or any Apple Music radio station while away from your phone or Wi-Fi.
That second line seems to say you can only stream their new Radio Beats 1 or Apple Music Radio when away from your phone. When I'm away from my phone, the only songs/artists/albums showing up on my phone are ones that I've downloaded/synced previously. If I'm connected to my phone, then I see my whole library and I can stream from the phone through the watch (I assume that's the path) to my air pods. When I'm tethered to the phone, the songs that aren't downloaded show up with a little cloud next to them.
Again, if I'm only able to stream Apple Radio when untethered, it's a lot less impressive. I should be able to go for a run/walk or work out without having to have my phone with me and have access to my library that's stored with Apple via Match or Music.
Maybe I'm the only one that didn't get this detail?
Ok - my bad - it wasn't working for some reason on my Watch, but after hearing that it should work I knew it had to be something on my end. And what does one do when something isn't working? Restart it! And sure enough, all my library is there now and I can stream everything in my library! Nice!!!!