Seems like Verizon users are a lot more forgiving than AT&T users about iphone.

[iceterminal]

Definitely. People keep sayin Network A is better than V. Or V better than A. Because coverage varies a lot by region. For example where I live ATT has excellent coverage while Verizon has zero coverage. If I lived someware Else it could be the reverse.

It is great to have choice. Verizon carrying the iPhone will be good to us ATT users as well; now that there is competition there's going to be a price war and both networks will be trying to offer better services.

+1.1

Same here in Dallas. AT&T has great coverage. I read, daily, people whining about dropped calls. I have yet to experience this.
And if you read enough, you mainly notice only the complaints. So take each complaint, multiply it by a factor of about 4 (guess), and you'll have close to those that are OK with AT&T.
I'm not a fanboy, just another user.

Choices are good. Embrace it.

 

[djransom]

Is it just me or is this kid talking to himself?

It's not just you LOL

 

[Apple 26.2]

Definitely. People keep sayin Network A is better than V. Or V better than A. Because coverage varies a lot by region. For example where I live ATT has excellent coverage while Verizon has zero coverage. If I lived someware Else it could be the reverse.

It is great to have choice. Verizon carrying the iPhone will be good to us ATT users as well; now that there is competition there's going to be a price war and both networks will be trying to offer better services.

That's exactly right. AT&T works just fine for me here, but Sprint does not. And yeah, I'm surprised how many don't see Verizon finally getting the iPhone as a good thing for consumers, regardless of who their carrier is... capitalism in action.

 

[Olivia23]

This - from Engadget

AT&T tweaking messaging plans, killing some upgrade discounts, raising fees and MicroCell pricing How on Earth have Verizon and AT&T both decided to kill off their upgrade discount programs within a few days of each other? Hard to say, but we've gotten a little peek at some new policies designed to "streamline" things that are apparently coming into effect next Sunday, January 23rd -- and very few (if any) of them are going to bring a smile to your face. Here's the gist:

* There'll be a new text package of 1,000 messages for $10 with overage at 10 cents apiece. This compares to 5 cents at the 1,500 / $15 level and 10 cents at the 200 / $5 level.
* Speaking of those other text packages, they're going away. Both the 200 and 1,500 text plans are goners. Obviously, if you're already on them, you shouldn't be affected -- you just won't be able to select them for new plans or changes anymore.
* Early upgrade pricing on new iPhones -- the standard subsidized price plus $200 -- will only be available six months into an existing iPhone activation.
* $50 and $100 discounts on top of subsidized pricing for upgrading customers -- similar to Verizon's recently-killed New Every Two program -- are going away. If you're currently eligible, you'll still be eligible to take advantage through July 23rd of this year.
* Family plan add-a-line activation is increasing $10 to $36.
* International voice roaming prices are changing in 117 countries. That's a lot of countries! We're assuming most of those rates are going up, not down, though we don't have details at this point.
* Calling to Canada is going from 29 cents per minute to 39 cents.
* The 3G MicroCell is increasing in price from $149.99 to $199.99, which seems like a really bizarre move to us -- hard to say what the motivation is there. Certain "pre-selected" customers will still receive special discount offers for it in the mail, though.
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AT&T tweaking messaging plans, killing some upgrade discounts, raising fees and MicroCell pricing

 

[Geckotek]

So much for competition driving prices down.

Wireless carriers are blood sucking scums of the earth.

 

[mtnDewFTW]

...verizon is a slow ass network and uses cdma, just like the chinese communists. Can you hear me now?

hahahahaha what??

 

[cwubbels]

oh please, att has a much faster network and you can do voice and data at the same time. Verizon sucks man.

just what we need, another att fanboy. You must love dropped calls and coverage in half the country.

yeah, you can buy into all that verizon hype. I had them for years and i went to att. Best move ever. Verizon is a slow ass network and uses cdma, just like the chinese communists. Can you hear me now?

w...t...f...?

 

[kas23]

I don't think Verizon is doing anything wrong here. They're a business. Why would they allow early upgrades? They got the iPhone now and are standing on top of a mountain. Really, what's the consumer gonna do, switch to AT&T after all this wait? Heck no.

And the real reason AT&T did this was to throw as many customers into it's 2 year jail, basically blocking many from switching to Verizon. They even raised the ETF too, basically sealing this jail completely for many. Don't think AT&T did anyone favors by offering early upgrades. They did it completely to benefit themselves. Problem is, they didn't prevent a widespread exodus to Verizon, the just delayed it.

 

[Wicked1]

Is it just me or is this kid talking to himself?

I was thinking Cybil ro Psycho, but I agree with his point, Stop Whinning, and I am a switcher from Verizon to AT&T and could not be more pleased.

I am just curious to see where all the complaints are going to come from on the VZ side, and I think VZ is doing this not only because they will not have enough phones to supply to most of their customers, they want all the EFT fees just so people will sign up again for new iPhone 4's.

Should be interesting

Oh Yeah, Down with the Jets, Go Pittsburgh

 

[Krevnik]

I'm curious where all the hate is coming from against the companies on this. They are ditching a perk that has no impact on when people's contracts end or early upgrades.

Verizon ditched their "We give you an extra 50-100$ credit for resigning a 2 year contract at the end of your previous contract, on top of subsidized pricing" perk. AT&T did the same. Neither of these programs are about early upgrades.

And people are bashing Verizon for giving 200$ cash back if they bought a phone during the holidays, are outside the return period, but want an iPhone? Are these the same people that bashed Apple for giving a 200$ gift card when they dropped the price of the original iPhone?

Honestly, I don't blame a company for charging ETF fees when a customer comes in for a phone where they pay 200$ for it, the company pays 400$ for it... and then the customer wants another phone 3 months later and only wants to pay 200$ for it, and make the company pay 400$ for that phone too. Doesn't seem like a balanced agreement to me unless they either make the customer pay full price for the second phone, or they collect ETF fees.

That or they simply stop subsidizing these phones and watch as the subscriber base actually starts keeping a phone for more than a year because they paid out the nose for it.

 

[Namji]

I'm curious where all the hate is coming from against the companies on this. They are ditching a perk that has no impact on when people's contracts end or early upgrades.

Verizon ditched their "We give you an extra 50-100$ credit for resigning a 2 year contract at the end of your previous contract, on top of subsidized pricing" perk. AT&T did the same. Neither of these programs are about early upgrades.

And people are bashing Verizon for giving 200$ cash back if they bought a phone during the holidays, are outside the return period, but want an iPhone? Are these the same people that bashed Apple for giving a 200$ gift card when they dropped the price of the original iPhone?

Honestly, I don't blame a company for charging ETF fees when a customer comes in for a phone where they pay 200$ for it, the company pays 400$ for it... and then the customer wants another phone 3 months later and only wants to pay 200$ for it, and make the company pay 400$ for that phone too. Doesn't seem like a balanced agreement to me unless they either make the customer pay full price for the second phone, or they collect ETF fees.

That or they simply stop subsidizing these phones and watch as the subscriber base actually starts keeping a phone for more than a year because they paid out the nose for it.

Really simple... these people are broke arses that want something that they cannot afford.

 

[DirtySocks85]

Time will tell if AT&T continues their generous policies now that there is competition for the iPhone. Like rats, the wireless carriers move in packs.

Wouldn't this give them more incentive to be generous? The iPhone is the best thing AT&T has had going for it for the past 3 years. Now that they have a level playing field as far as their flagship handset goes, they're going to have to play extra nice to keep their current iPhone customers.