Senator Planning Legislation to Punish Companies That Don't Unlock Encrypted Devices

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    North Carolina Senator Richard Burr, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, is working on legislation that would penalize companies that don't comply with court orders to unlock encrypted devices, according to The Wall Street Journal. The move comes a day after Apple announced that it would oppose an order to unlock the San Bernardino shooter's iPhone 5c.

    The bill could reportedly be written in way that modifies the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which compelled communications companies to build their systems in a way that would allow them to comply with court orders.
    For the past several months, Burr has been pressuring technology companies to work closely with law enforcement to prevent encrypted devices and services from being used to plan and execute crimes, going as far as telling some that they needed to consider changing their business model. He's also claimed that district attorneys have complained to him about encryption as they are "beginning to get to a situation where they can't prosecute cases."

    Apple CEO Tim Cook has continually maintained that unlocking any device, or creating any type of backdoor, would weaken encryption across the board and allow both bad guys and good guys to access users' personal data.

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  2. PinkyMacGodess macrumors 601


    Mar 7, 2007
    Midwest America.
    Stupid says what?

    He's 'bought and paid for'. Must be a spokesperson for military industrial complex corporations...

    Nice huh...

    "Mr. Burr hasn't finalized plans for how legislation would be designed"​

    So the 'designs' weren't pushed under his door in a plain brown envelope, with a wad of cash, yet?
  3. JimmyHook macrumors 6502a

    Apr 7, 2015
    Well, when the contents of his family's iPhones are dumped on the internet he would think twice about his stance. Once the door is open, hackers would be able to target anyone. Nobody can deny that with a straight face
  4. dannyyankou, Feb 18, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2016

    dannyyankou macrumors 604


    Mar 2, 2012
    Scarsdale, NY
    **** this guy, seriously

    Edit: Post originally said "fickle this guy", lol. Damn autocorrect. I was suprised by the lack of thumbs up but that explains why.
  5. mejsric macrumors 6502a


    Mar 28, 2013
    probably that Apple Spaceship is true spaceship... when every f*ck up in America they can just fly their office to China.
  6. logicstudiouser macrumors 6502a


    Feb 4, 2010
  7. APlotdevice macrumors 68040


    Sep 3, 2011
    If I'm not mistaken, Mr Burr is up for reelection this year.
  8. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem


    Feb 19, 2005
    Burr is a moron. He has no idea what he is doing. He likely looks at it simply as getting into the terrorists' phones when this entire issue is bigger than that. Just like @JimmyHook wrote, this opens a door and it won't be good. This is a can of worms to which there is no lid.
  9. Traverse macrumors 604


    Mar 11, 2013
    Heh, he looks so annoyed/bored in that photo.

    Apple's privacy stance (even if just a facade) is one of the main reasons I've remained devoted to their products despite their shortcomings. Windows 10 had way too many privacy issues. Sure, I could disable most/all of them, but most users won't realize that. Google's services are quality, but of course you become subject to data mining.

    It's the price we pay for the internet I suppose.. :/
  10. Lancetx macrumors 68000


    Aug 11, 2003
    Regardless of their party (and there are plenty on both sides), those that back this legislation will find themselves squarely on the wrong side of history.
  11. PinkyMacGodess macrumors 601


    Mar 7, 2007
    Midwest America.
    So he needs money? Did I nail it, or what?
  12. FieldingMellish Suspended

    Jun 20, 2010
    Why the pouts? It's more of a leftist's dream, isn't it? - your big federal government at work performing Jiujitsu on corporate businesses.
  13. ArtOfWarfare macrumors G3


    Nov 26, 2007
    This makes no sense though. The military already shot themselves in the foot with laws like this two decades ago - surely they know better now?

    In case you were unaware - we used to have laws that limited how securely data could be stored in consumer devices. Military grade security could only be found on military hardware. Military hardware is expensive. Sometimes people in the military decide to buy cheaper consumer goods because they appear to be similar enough.

    And that's how, oops, now you have your data that's supposed to be super secret not securely stored.

    They realized their mistake and those laws were done away with. Unfortunately, the reprecautions are still felt sometimes. Old important mainframes that have simply worked for decades and so nobody ever bothered looking at them end up getting hacked, because they don't have proper security on them.

    Anyways, all those iPhones on capitol hill would suddenly be a lot more vulnerable to hacking, if Apple were to relent on this issue.
  14. FrankieTDouglas macrumors 65816

    Mar 10, 2005
    The battle against encryption is bipartisan. If you like finding different letters of the alphabet, look up the recent New York or California proposals and who pushed those.
  15. aaronvan Suspended


    Dec 21, 2011
    República Cascadia
    So? It's Obama--a D--who is attacking Apple with the FBI and the Department of Justice. He's just managed to find some redneck hayseed traitor from the other side of the aisle.
  16. IHelpId10t5 macrumors 6502

    Nov 28, 2014
    Yep. These types of idiots use the "save the children" and the "war on terror" arguments right up until they receive a good doxxing that spreads their deepest secrets and their poor family's stuff all over the Internet.
  17. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

    Oct 23, 2010
    Can we donate money to beat this guy in a primary?
  18. aaronvan Suspended


    Dec 21, 2011
    República Cascadia
    Beat Hillary. She will only perpetuate Obama's assault on the 4th Amendment.
  19. blacktape242 macrumors 68000


    Dec 17, 2010
    Sacramento, CA
  20. Nunyabinez macrumors 68000


    Apr 27, 2010
    Provo, UT
    OMG, how did anyone get convicted before there were phones to scrape data from? If the difference between convicting someone and not convicting them requires data from their phone, then it sounds to me like a pretty weak case that has the high potential for being wrong. Unless criminals are taking selfies of their crimes in progress.

    What happened to fingerprints and witnesses and all the other stuff? Sounds like to me that we have a bunch of lazy prosecutors who want Apple to do their job for them.

    This is all a smoke screen for the fact that they want to spy on the populous and they're using "because crime" to do it.
  21. AlexH macrumors 68020


    Mar 7, 2006
  22. Col4bin macrumors 68000


    Oct 2, 2011
    El Segundo
    And 2nd Amendment, too... Mother knows best.
  23. carrrrrlos macrumors 6502a


    Sep 19, 2010
    Thomas Jefferson, not Steve Jobs, would never have let this happen.
  24. thewap macrumors 6502a


    Jun 19, 2012
    Yeah, this guy is all about transparency..

    Quote: *North Carolina voters should do due diligence on the national security record of Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC). From his frequent appearances on network news shows, it is obvious that he is running for re-election on his cloak and dagger work as the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which makes accountability difficult to establish.

    At the same time, it has become clear that -- rather than exercising critical legislative oversight of the intelligence community's most controversial activities from paramilitary drone strikes to N.S.A. bulk collection of phone records -- Mr. Burr all too often is a cheerleader for whatever is going down.

    No sooner had he become committee chairman this year when he staged an unheard of stunt in trying to reclaim from the executive branch copies of a classified report -- revealing new evidence of torture via "enhanced interrogation techniques" by the Central Intelligence Agency -- in order to bury it.*
  25. APlotdevice macrumors 68040


    Sep 3, 2011
    "Traitor"? If you're going that angle, you might want to add an s at the end. Not only did Trump come out against Apple, but so is Cruz.

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