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I wonder if the US government does gets its way whether the rest of the world will be affected?
 
probably that Apple Spaceship is true spaceship... when every f*ck up in America they can just fly their office to China.

Apple needs to move its HQ out of US to a country which still respects privacy rights...

Seriously, NSA and the rest of the three letter entities can hack any iPhone right now if they want to but they can only do it one-by-one and it will not be cost efficient for them. What they want is easy access so any ass from those three letter companies can plug in any iPhone to a laptop and start browsing for information. This is 1984.

Edit: Apple makes two versions of iOS. The secure international version and non-secure US version with backdoor. Let's see what voters prefer and install...
 
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Are you seriously wondering why decade old investigation techniques are no longer sufficient in our ever digital society?
No. I am however wondering how we got to a point where crimes are not prosecuted in the basis of forensic evidence, outcome, and witnesses; and instead rely on a person keeping a crime diary and confession on a mobile phone.
 
Washington doesn't care about the one case. If they can force this in, its a way to spy on heads of state and others around the world who used mobile phones. It wont stop at the iPhone. Android, MS and others will also have to comply.
 
I read that a republican senator from North Carolina wants to write legislation to punish companies like Apple from complying with court orders.

Isn't there a punishment already in place for not complying?

I'm still in the fence. But stuff like this makes my blood boil. Our legislators spend more political capital protecting the privacy rights of gun owners than the privacy rights of phone users.

Phones don't kill people either.

If congress wishes to allow the invasion of privacy of people they should place their political stamp on it, and include the full collection of gun owner stats and purchases too. And not expect companies to remove their political risks in a lopsided manner.

I suppose one day when technology allows hooking up our brains to be read we will have to give that right up too?

Anyways this article was interesting today

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/technology/a-yearlong-road-to-a-standoff-with-the-fbi.html


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So? It's Obama--a D--who is attacking Apple with the FBI and the Department of Justice. He's just managed to find some redneck hayseed traitor from the other side of the aisle.
Seriously? There are people on both sides of the aisle that support this, and people on both sides that oppose it. At least at this point this isn't an issue that each party lines up squarely on opposite sides.
 
So the FBI can get records of the texts which were sent from the Phone Company. They can get the e-mails from the various e-mail providers. Plus Apple has already turned over all of the iPhone backups they has which goes all the way up to a month before the attacks. I am not sure what else the FBI can get, maybe which music terrorists listen to? What kind of selfies they take? I agree with others this is less about that one phone than it is about setting a legal precedent.
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Even Apple Inc. does not have power over the U.S. Government.

For protection, Apple will have to stop selling iPhones. So... there won't be an iPhone 7.

I always wondered how this iPhone thing would all end.
They don't have to stop selling iPhones, just stop selling iPhones in the US.
 
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Why the pouts? It's more of a leftist's dream, isn't it? - your big federal government at work performing Jiujitsu on corporate businesses.

Sounds more like a fascist right-wing authoritarian dream to me.

And it's being proposed by one of your revered R leaders.
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Are you seriously wondering why decade old investigation techniques are no longer sufficient in our ever digital society?

They are still sufficient. Cops are lazy and want a one-click solution to have a machine do their job for them.

Are we actually going to pretend that people didn't use coded communications before smart phones?
 
Well, when the contents of his family's iPhones are dumped on the internet he would think twice about his stance. Once the door is open, hackers would be able to target anyone. Nobody can deny that with a straight face
I'm not saying that EVERY politician has skeletons in their closet, but we'll sure as heck find out how many once a key is written for said closets.
 
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Anyone thinking this is a one off and not a serious problem for our security should look at the statement from the New York Attorney General. He said he has 175 iPhones that he needs to access and will surely try to piggy back on anything done here. Just imagine how many other states are in the same position.

Hopefully Apple will not cave.
 
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