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starbright01

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Sorry what was the screen shot supposed to mean?
Back on topic, I am definitely excited for the second Apple Watch! I hope there's a celluar version!
 

starbright01

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I hope it's forsure waterproof! I'm scared to buy a new one because I know a batch of the first watches weren't waterproof! I guess I got lucky with mine lol. I shower with mine and everything!
But I really need a watch with a gps for findmyiphone app in it so hopefully it has it.
 

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This doesn't prove anything. What is the significance of September 23? Has this leaked as a rumor? Until Apple confirms, this won't be considered a date for a release.
 
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BarracksSi

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If you've been paying attention to Apple for more than five minutes, you'll know that nobody else "confirms" anything except Apple themselves.
 

BlueMoon63

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If that date means anything, it might be the official OS3 date, but who knows. It's a nice rumor/joke/coincidence.

If I was Apple, I would leak pictures and diagrams and rumors just to make people mad and whiners whine and competitors laugh and then come out with a completely different end product. Look at all the posts for the fake speaker thread. :)
 
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slvrscoobie

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Omg guys! brg just confirmed the Apple Watch 2 with this packaging! Must be true if they have a sticker for it!! :lol:
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TWO2SEVEN

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I hope it's forsure waterproof! I'm scared to buy a new one because I know a batch of the first watches weren't waterproof! I guess I got lucky with mine lol. I shower with mine and everything!
But I really need a watch with a gps for findmyiphone app in it so hopefully it has it.

I wear mine in the pool, it is fine.
 

gwhizkids

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Given some of the indicators that iPhone 7 will be available on 9/23 ("reliable sources"), I would actually put "some" money on the date on the Watch faces having some significance. Normally, the release version of iOS drops a few days before the phone is available in stores (say, 9/21), so it would make some sense that WatchOS3 would also be released that day. So 9/23 would have to refer to something else. Apple usually means something with their graphics, so I think a pretty good case could be made that the "something else" would be a hardware release date.

Or they're trolling us! LOL!
 

slvrscoobie

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So your saying that the watchOS 3 will not be available to the public except basically the same day the AW 2 is announced?
 

gwhizkids

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So your saying that the watchOS 3 will not be available to the public except basically the same day the AW 2 is announced?
Nope. Cadence would look like this (if it happened):

-Sept 7: hardware announced (phone and watch)
-Sept 9: hardware preorder
-Sept 21: OSes released (iOS, WatchOS and maybe tvOS)
-Sept 23:. Hardware available at retail

All rampant guessing on my part, but makes some sense. But Apple doesn't care what I think!
 

jermy4

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Nope. Cadence would look like this (if it happened):

-Sept 7: hardware announced (phone and watch)
-Sept 9: hardware preorder
-Sept 21: OSes released (iOS, WatchOS and maybe tvOS)
-Sept 23:. Hardware available at retail

All rampant guessing on my part, but makes some sense. But Apple doesn't care what I think!
Spot on for previous launches, they normally announce the hardware and a few days later the preorder starts and the new OS usually launches 2-3 days before the new hardware.
 

daijholt

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I hope it's forsure waterproof! I'm scared to buy a new one because I know a batch of the first watches weren't waterproof! I guess I got lucky with mine lol. I shower with mine and everything!
But I really need a watch with a gps for findmyiphone app in it so hopefully it has it.
It was waterproof...IPX7 rating; up to 1 meter of water for up to 30 minutes.

Unless you were being sarcastic, then yes, let's hope ;)
 
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daijholt

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Some people complained theirs were water damaged
There are always exceptions. For example, IPX7 certification is based on "fresh water" exposure, not soapy, chlorinated or salt water. Chemicals like this can eat away at the waterproofing in the Watch over time, reducing its effectiveness.

I'll admit, I have my Watch in the shower too, but rather than wear it whilst washing where it'll get covered in shower gel, I hang it on the side of the shower basket. It only gets splashed there, and also stays dy enough that the screen still works for music control.
 

Vanilla35

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There are always exceptions. For example, IPX7 certification is based on "fresh water" exposure, not soapy, chlorinated or salt water. Chemicals like this can eat away at the waterproofing in the Watch over time, reducing its effectiveness.

I'll admit, I have my Watch in the shower too, but rather than wear it whilst washing where it'll get covered in shower gel, I hang it on the side of the shower basket. It only gets splashed there, and also stays dy enough that the screen still works for music control.

Might as well just take it off before you get in the shower, if you're going to put in the effort to take it off during the actual shower. Unless you're really getting those steps in, if you know what I mean.
 

fischersd

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People really need to take the word "waterproof" out of their vocabulary (especially when talking about electronics). Never, ever gonna happen (a nugget of gold or other dense elements could be stated to be "waterproof" as water can never permeate, regardless of depth.

Perhaps Apple will give the devices a 10 ATM rating for water resistance, perhaps they'll even go so far as an ISO diver rating...time will tell.

Some good references:
https://www.prestigetime.com/page.php?waterresistance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Resistant_mark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
 
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JayLenochiniMac

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People really need to take the word "waterproof" out of their vocabulary (especially when talking about electronics). Never, ever gonna happen (a nugget of gold or other dense elements could be stated to be "waterproof" as water can never permeate, regardless of depth.

Perhaps Apple will give the devices a 10 ATM rating for water resistance, perhaps they'll even go so far as an ISO diver rating...time will tell.

Some good references:
https://www.prestigetime.com/page.php?waterresistance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Resistant_mark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code

Unless they qualify their statements such as "the AW is waterproof to 1 meter for 30 minutes (the criteria for IPX7 rating)."
 

exxxviii

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Regarding water resistance ratings, context is massively important. My first GPS fitness watch was IPX7. It did not fare well with sweat. Friends with IPX7 devices also had shore lifespans. My personal experience and my friends with IPX7-rated devices indicate that they do not last long if you sweat in them, especially if you are a heavy sweater. Garmin has since gone to 5 ATM for all of their activity and fitness devices. My hunch is they learned from their early IPX7 devices.

So, the current AW is rated at IPX7. Maybe it is better. But, if you sweat a lot and it is really IPX7, there is a good bet that its life will end in two to three years.

If you are going to sweat heavily and regularly in a device, I would want 5 ATM.
 
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