Sept 23rd confirmed for Apple Watch 2 release date !!!

[Vanilla35]

Regarding water resistance ratings, context is massively important. My first GPS fitness watch was IPX7. It did not fare well with sweat. Friends with IPX7 devices also had shore lifespans. My personal experience and my friends with IPX7-rated devices indicate that they do not last long if you sweat in them, especially if you are a heavy sweater. Garmin has since gone to 5 ATM for all of their activity and fitness devices. My hunch is they learned from their early IPX7 devices.

So, the current AW is rated at IPX7. Maybe it is better. But, if you sweat a lot and it is really IPX7, there is a good bet that its life will end in two to three years.

If you are going to sweat heavily and regularly in a device, I would want 5 ATM.

Sounds like the perfect time to upgrade the AW to the next iteration

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

*grumble* Heh. I'd still say "resistant to water ingress at a depth of 1 meter for 30 minutes."

Semantics then, it means the same thing. If it isn't waterproof to 1 meter for 30 minutes, then it doesn't satisfy the IPX7 water ingress rating.

But, yes, you're correct that one cannot simply say that a watch is waterproof.

 

[mtcowdog]

I wear my AW1 morning to night every day. I have my complaints, but it is still a great watch. For a lot of other people I have struggled to say the AW was worth the money. Most of us have limited resources, and he benefits can be hard to justify for a lot of users. AW2, based only on rumors and watch OS 3 so far, is the first time I think I can start to recommend the AW. And, for the record, I will still have complaints. But the first recommendation will be for mrs.cowdog. I will very likely buy her one at launch. The next question is how long it takes me to buy one. My guess is I will have one before the end of 2016.

 

[nightcap965]

I wear mine in the pool, it is fine.

I wear mine in the pool daily. Still doesn't mean I don't want a little reassurance that the watch won't leak. Check it out - there are several folks on here who've worn their Apple Watches in the pool, and ended up with that dull sick feeling at the pit of their stomachs when half the screen died.

Fact is, Apple's official word is that submerging the watch is not recommended.

 

[TWO2SEVEN]

I wear mine in the pool daily. Still doesn't mean I don't want a little reassurance that the watch won't leak. Check it out - there are several folks on here who've worn their Apple Watches in the pool, and ended up with that dull sick feeling at the pit of their stomachs when half the screen died.

Fact is, Apple's official word is that submerging the watch is not recommended.

I am ok with it, that's why I bought AppleCare+

 

[Julien]

....Fact is, Apple's official word is that submerging the watch is not recommended.

The actual fact is that the Watch has a minimum IPx7 water rating no mater what subjective language Apple uses to describe usage.

 

[nightcap965]

The actual fact is that the Watch has a minimum IPx7 water rating no mater what subjective language Apple uses to describe usage.

Since we're being factual, let's spell out what IPx7 means. It doesn't mean swimming. It means it may be immersed for up to half an hour at a depth of up to 1 meter. I do more than that with my Apple Watch every day. It's still working fine, but I accept that it's my fault if it fails. What I'm hoping for in the Apple Watch 2 is a rating of no less than 5 ATM or IP68.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Since we're being factual, let's spell out what IPx7 means. It doesn't mean swimming. It means it may be immersed for up to half an hour at a depth of up to 1 meter. I do more than that with my Apple Watch every day. It's still working fine, but I accept that it's my fault if it fails. What I'm hoping for in the Apple Watch 2 is a rating of no less than 5 ATM or IP68.

You mentioned Apple's recommendation that the AW not be submerged so Julien's point was in response to that, not swimming.