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"funds applied through iTunes gift cards cannot be used towards subscription purchase" oh come on...not for us Europeans and than this? great...
 
I really doubt that Apple'll put it in boxes! In MMe, discounts work since they can effectively increase memberships without much hassles! But in this scenario.... they do have to pay 30 cents to the record company for every song sold.... even if its sold through Unlimited... least of records bother!
 
This seems like a dumb idea. I feel like music companies would make way more money with the current model because they would loose things like higher premiums for new releases and preorders. Plus what is stopping anyone from burning their music to audio discs and reimporting them drm free? Seems like too much hastle for Apple.

I could see Apple doing some kind of music deal with the industry for a mobile me feature that would let you publish playlists much like photo galleries that people could subscribe to via their iphone or the internet.
 
The US has this thing about personal responsibility... I know, crazy, right?/QUOTE]

LOL.

You think "Personal responsibility" exists...?

Remember that person from the u.s. a few weeks ago who blamed everyone but himself for buying "I am rich app": "Wwwwhaaaaaaa - its not my fault, its everyone elses fault that I bought it!".

Or, how about those fat people from the u.s who tried sueing McDonalds for "making them fat"...

Again - LOL - personal responsibility.... some people should understand the notion of 'personal responsibility'.

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I'm wondering if the subscription format is being forced upon Apple by music labels, and in return, Apple would get some concessions - such as more DRM free music?

If SJ is against subscription music, then I'm surprised Apple would go ahead with it..
 
No, I think he was saying that you can't discount a rumor just because its been around for several years. :rolleyes:

Since this rumor comes from purely anecdotal sources, unnamed and unaccountable, a repetitive rumor has even less validity. Age diminishes such a rumor even further. :rolleyes:
 
What the hell is up with eurpeans and those anti-trust issues? why cant they just stop bitching and learn to live life.....



I know. kid must know know that 1080p IS blu-ray and IS the highest out there and wont be another one for quite some time... 1080p as yet to fully set in.



whats with people and rolling their eyes at nonsence
Dude whats ur problem and u missed the point, it says in the news that itll be US Store only so i assume no one from out of the US could just sign up for it only. So i was wondering if we could still use it with the retail box
 
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iTunes Unlimited will be really nice if they would let you download the songs over the cellular network. I'd definitely be in if they did this.

Does anyone think they will eventually adopt movie rentals into the subscription model? This would make it even more worthwhile to me.
 
I wonder how many people would use this service. Do the competitors such as Napster and Rhapsody see a lot of people picking the subscription option over simply buying the songs they want to keep??
 
In fact, the only anti-trust SO the EU sent to Apple that I can remember was about iTunes pricing in Europe being higher than the US, and indeed, some countries (the UK) had a higher price than other parts of Europe (the Eurozone). It makes sense for them to ask Apple about it, because it's in the interest of European citizens. And as a result, Europeans are enjoying cheaper music than before the EU intervened.

The only Europeans enjoying cheaper music would be the ones in the UK, the EuroZone are paying the same 99c they always have.

Also, it would be nice if the EU would do something about the fact that the UK get the other Apple products cheaper than the other EuroZone countries
 
treading on dodgy ground

I have an iTunes account but have never bought anything from the store. Although the last time I bought a new cd several months ago, it was from Best Buy and $14.99. When I got home I found the whole album for $9.99 on iTunes and I'm now questioning the need for the physical jewel case and liner notes. My next album purchase might be on iTunes.

I don't think I'm really revealing any national secrets by passing along the information that was given to me ages ago...burning off a copy of DRM'd songs onto cd and then re-uploading them as mp3's breaks the DRM. Granted this is a time and labor intensive process but if the subscription model is really a "lease" on the music for as long as your subscription is active, why couldn't someone follow the process above to "own" the music permanently? Again, I'm not advocating this. This is illegal. I do not and have not done this. This is all hypothetical since iTunes Unlimited doesn't exist in the first place.
 
Unlimited itunes- Not

Very unlikely. This is one of those schemes that’s bad for Apple, bad for the consumer but great for the record labels.
I expect that one of the labels floated this rumor. Again.
Let’ see. You don’t get the new music that you want but for over a hundred dollars you get their back catalog of their Lithuanian folk dancing music.
 
I don't think I'm really revealing any national secrets by passing along the information that was given to me ages ago...burning off a copy of DRM'd songs onto cd and then re-uploading them as mp3's breaks the DRM. Granted this is a time and labor intensive process but if the subscription model is really a "lease" on the music for as long as your subscription is active, why couldn't someone follow the process above to "own" the music permanently?
Other subscription services with DRM use said DRM to prevent you from burning the songs to disc.
 
The last time I was on campus (last week) I was able to see many peoples entire iTunes libraries and listen to them via bonjour. As far as "owning" the music, you never have owned it, ever. The same way with software. You are paying for the right to USE it. You do not OWN your copy of Leopard, or Windows, or Office. Read the EULA. Recall grade school; and "don't copy that floppy" nonsense they had use watch. One of the points was that you do not own the software you are using, you are simply paying a fee to use it on your own computer. Nothing has changed.

Again, this is within a LAN, but try sharing your iTunes library to a friend at another school (technically legally).

As for the EULA issue, again time and time again EULAs have yet to be won by the corporations. TIME AND TIME again. Imho, using the "EULA" argument on "who owns the music" just doesn't hold any water.

w00master
 
I'm willing to bet the music companies will poo poo and say this is illegal. Still, might do it for a year and find some way (can't imagine how) to capture the audio for all the songs I want but haven't bought yet. Do this with a group of friends and watch the cost come down.

Hmmm, if I think of doing this wonder how many other teenagers will do this?

Sure they could, but at the same time since the music can only be "shared" between users who are subscribers, I see sharing to be allowed. This is something you can already do with most of the subscription services right now.
 
Am I the only one who thinks "renting" music is the worst idea ever?

What happens with all that music you love and want to keep? You will need to "rent/get" over and over again.

I would do this in a heartbeat if I can "get" music for as long as i choose to keep the file ... even if I stop paying the devil (RIAA) to keep him at bay.

You obviously didn't read my post. To go back, I'm a firm believer in "owning my music," but at the same time think about what you "can't" do with the music you own. See my post on the top of the previous page (page 4).

w00master
 
Apple doesn't do monthly. it's much easier to make sure that someone is paying once a year than 12 times.

No, although I'm sure Apple is happy for you to believe that. They do it because of something called a float. Basically you're giving your money to Apple for them to in invest and earn money on it. Have another Koolaid and think about that for a minute. :D
 
Nothing New Here

This model has been in use by Rhapsody ($13.99/month) and Microsoft (Zune pass, $14.99/month). It allows you to play the drm content on the PC as well as the mobile players. If you want to burn it, you must buy it.
 
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