Series 1 vs series 2.

[LaLaLou]

hi all, newbie to the site here

So I am buying my husband a watch for Christmas and Ive a few questions. We are Apple all through the house (even an old iPod classic!) but im a bit confused.

We have a 2015 mac and husband has an iPhone 6. He doesn't swim or shower with a watch on and he doesn't drive so those two features of the series 2 are not relevant really.

Is the screen resolution between the 1 and the 2 really worth an extra £100?? Honestly??
His ip6 is running ios10 so he's all up to date. Is that sufficiently going to connect to to the watch. The earliest he would be upgrading his phone would be next launch.

I hope my post makes sense, thanks in advance for your replies

 

[BlueMoon63]

hi all, newbie to the site here

So I am buying my husband a watch for Christmas and Ive a few questions. We are Apple all through the house (even an old iPod classic!) but im a bit confused.

We have a 2015 mac and husband has an iPhone 6. He doesn't swim or shower with a watch on and he doesn't drive so those two features of the series 2 are not relevant really.

Is the screen resolution between the 1 and the 2 really worth an extra £100?? Honestly??
His ip6 is running ios10 so he's all up to date. Is that sufficiently going to connect to to the watch. The earliest he would be upgrading his phone would be next launch.

I hope my post makes sense, thanks in advance for your replies

Based on your information, your husband won't need the series 2 over the series 1 since he doesn't need GPS or the better water resistance. GPS was for running/cycling and not for driving. save the extra money and get the series 1 or buy him an extra leather band.

You are all set for the IOS and iPhone 6.

 

[julesme]

Don't forget about the larger battery... The Series 2 battery has a >30% capacity increase vs. Series 1.

 

[dominiongamma]

Don't forget about the larger battery... The Series 2 battery has a >30% capacity increase vs. Series 1.

Indeed took it off at 6 am today and I'm at 75% still 8:00 pm now here .

 

[44267547]

Don't forget about the larger battery... The Series 2 battery has a >30% capacity increase vs. Series 1.

The larger battery is offset with the use of the GPS in Series 2. Both Series 1 and Series 2 are rated for 18 hours.

 

[LaLaLou]

Thank you all. Series 1 here I come (with money left towards mine )

Next question. I have the money now, but is it worth waiting until Black Friday just in case or are they very unlikely to get a reduction? (In all honesty here I've never apple shopped on Black Friday so I've no idea what their 'typical' discounts look like and on what products). I will be going for the space grey silicone band 42mm

 

[44267547]

Thank you all. Series 1 here I come (with money left towards mine )

Next question. I have the money now, but is it worth waiting until Black Friday just in case or are they very unlikely to get a reduction? (In all honesty here I've never apple shopped on Black Friday so I've no idea what their 'typical' discounts look like and on what products). I will be going for the space grey silicone band 42mm

You very well might find a Black Friday deal
If you can wait a few weeks. Although, with the Series 1/2 being so new to the market, it would be a fight to get one, with the strain as it is currently. It's difficult to say if Stores will have the particular model you are looking for.

Good luck.

 

[LaLaLou]

You very well might find a Black Friday deal
If you can wait a few weeks. Although, with the Series 1/2 being so new to the market, it would be a fight to get one, with the strain as it is currently. It's difficult to say if Stores will have the particular model you are looking for.

Good luck.

Thank you. I shall just buy now then. Love this forum, have bookmarked for when I have a blonde moment

 

[bob24]

The larger battery is offset with the use of the GPS in Series 2. Both Series 1 and Series 2 are rated for 18 hours.

That only is if you actually use the GPS feature though (i.e. if you regularly take the watch away from your phone AND use it for activity tracking at the same time).

In the use cases described here the watch will never enable its internal GPS and rather rely on the phone for location services, so the 30% extra battery life can be used for something else.

 

[planetf1]

The larger battery is offset with the use of the GPS in Series 2. Both Series 1 and Series 2 are rated for 18 hours.

Though Gps is only used when out if range of the phone so for much normal use i think the battery will last longer.

At least that was my primary justification for ordering 2 vs 1

 

[44267547]

That only is if you actually use the GPS feature though (i.e. if you regularly take the watch away from your phone AND use it for activity tracking at the same time).

In the use cases described here the watch will never enable its internal GPS and rather rely on the phone for location services, so the 30% extra battery life can be used for something else.

Though Gps is only used when out if range of the phone so for much normal use i think the battery will last longer.

At least that was my primary justification for ordering 2 vs 1

Most who purchase Series 2, obviously intended to use the GPS function, which will divulge into the battery life. This includes and assuming 'Hey Siri' and the heart monitor are active.

From the reviews and reports from other forum members, Series 1 and Series 2 battery life is on par being the same as the Gen 1 Apple Watch, with or without the GPS function activated. The additional screen brightness also contributes to the battery loss.

 

[bob24]

Most who purchase Series 2, obviously intended to use the GPS function, which will divulge into the battery life. This includes and assuming 'Hey Siri' and the heart monitor are active.

Sure if you use it it will hit the battery. Just saying it is irrelevant in this thread as the OP mentioned the GPS won't be used.

 

[Julien]

Also the OP might want to look into getting a S0 and saving even more. Being in England??? you may get a discounted S0 based on the old exchange rate vs a S1 on the new rate. Making it an even better deal. This might be a substantial savings.

 

[44267547]

Sure if you use it it will hit the battery. Just saying it is irrelevant in this thread as the OP mentioned the GPS won't be used.

Where did the OP state in the thread the GPS wouldn't be used for running? The OP mentioned driving/swimming. The primary function for the GPS is for runners. That doesn't make it irrelevant.

 

[bob24]

Where did the OP state in the thread the GPS wouldn't be used for running? The OP mentioned driving/swimming. The primary function for the GPS is for runners. That doesn't make it irrelevant.

The way the original post is worded it seems like GPS usage in not required and therefore won't hit the battery.

If the OP needs the GPS, then series 2 is the only game in town, but that doesn't seem to be the case based on the rest of the thread.

In any of those 2 cases the fact that GPS usage hits the battery is irrelevant to their decision (first case they won't use the GPS so the extra battery life will be available, and second case the decision is series 2 no matter what).

 

[44267547]

The way the original post is worded it seems like GPS usage in not required and therefore won't hit the battery.

If the OP needs the GPS, then series 2 is the only game in town, but that doesn't seem to be the case based on the rest of the thread.

In any of those 2 cases the fact that GPS usage hits the battery is irrelevant to their decision (first case they won't use the GPS so the extra battery life will be available, and second case the decision is series 2 no matter what).

Can you provide a link/source where the battery is 30% larger and is not equivalent to 18 hours when the GPS is turned off? If it's greater, then what are the technical specifications for this?

 

[bob24]

Can you provide a link/source where the battery is 30% larger and is not equivalent to 18 hours when the GPS is turned off? If it's greater, then what are the technical specifications for this?

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Watch+Series+2+Teardown/67385

"For those of you keeping score, this battery offers a full 32% increase in power over the previous generation—most likely to compensate for the addition of GPS capability"

On 38mm series 0 / series 1 the battery capacity is 205 mAh, and on series 2 it is 273 mAh.

Apple hasn't updated the rating in terms of how long the battery can hold a charge probably because they are taking some GPS usage into account, but some people here have reported 2 or 3 days of usage without having to charge again (especially with watchOS 3.1).

 

[44267547]

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Watch+Series+2+Teardown/67385

"For those of you keeping score, this battery offers a full 32% increase in power over the previous generation—most likely to compensate for the addition of GPS capability"

On 38mm series 0 / series 1 the battery capacity is 205 mAh, and on series 2 it is 273 mAh.

I'm aware of the iFixit link. I meant a link where it states the actual Battery usage influx, is greater than 18 hours WITH the GPS off. I'm aware the Series 2 has a larger battery. Where is it stated the difference in battery life per the hour?

 

[bob24]

I'm aware of the iFixit link. I meant a link where it states the actual Battery usage influx, is greater than 18 hours WITH the GPS off. I'm aware the Series 2 has a larger battery. Where is it stated the difference in battery life per the hour?

Most reviews have mentioned longer battery life. It is not rocket science TBH, if you except GPS usage the only thing which is more power hungry on series 2 is the brighter display. This will only be used in bright sunlight and is definitely not going to drain 32% more battery on average, so 32% more battery capacity has to translate into longer battery life for someone who doesn't use the GPS.

 

[44267547]

Most reviews have mentioned longer battery life. It is not rocket science TBH, if you except GPS usage the only thing which is more power hungry on series 2 is the brighter screen. This will only be used in bright sunlight and is definitely not going to drain 32% more battery on average, so 32% more battery capacity has to translate into longer battery life.

Your Bolded statement above. Which doesn't speak numbers for the power hungry S2 processor incorporated.

And the GPS isn't the only "Power hungry" task in the Apple Watch, the S2 processor contributes to power usage as well.

Again. I understand simple math. I was simply asking for an article stating your claim for specific numbers for the OP and other readers. I'm not trying to make this difficult. It was a request. So, no link or source provided. Then others results are anecdotal based on usage in translation on how a user uses the Watch on a daily basis.

Second, a link or source would have been viable with the how the S2 processor consumes power.

With my Series 2, GPS off, S2 processor and with Watch OS 3.1, I definitely don't see a major difference in battery life. Clearly your mileage may vary.

 

[BlueMoon63]

The OP simply wanted to know if Series 1 would be good enough for her husband.

@Relentless Power - Are you saying that you have not noticed an improvement in battery with your series 2 versus the series 0? I probably missed something. The battery has been insanely good to a level my old series 0 could not even touch. I'm sure I missed something.

 

[julesme]

Your Bolded statement above. Which doesn't speak numbers for the power hungry S2 processor incorporated.

And the GPS isn't the only "Power hungry" task in the Apple Watch, the S2 processor contributes to power usage as well.

Again. I understand simple math. I was simply asking for an article stating your claim for specific numbers for the OP and other readers. I'm not trying to make this difficult. It was a request. So, no link or source provided. Then others results are anecdotal based on usage in translation on how a user uses the Watch on a daily basis.

Second, a link or source would have been viable with the how the S2 processor consumes power.

With my Series 2, GPS off, S2 processor and with Watch OS 3.1, I definitely don't see a major difference in battery life. Clearly your mileage may vary.

Are you comparing Series 2 to Series 0 or something else? A S2 vs S1 direct comparison (with GPS off) should show longer battery life in the S2 based on the dramatically larger battery.

Also, as noted above, some of the battery draining features on S2, like brighter screen and GPS usage, can be dialed down for those who prefer to prioritize battery life and always take their phone with them, even when running.

 

[LaLaLou]

Also the OP might want to look into getting a S0 and saving even more. Being in England??? you may get a discounted S0 based on the old exchange rate vs a S1 on the new rate. Making it an even better deal. This might be a substantial savings.

Series 0? Um, showing how little I know here.... do Apple stores still stock series 0? Or would I need to check another retailer? The os not being compatable with future iPhones would bother me on this. (If future iPhones don't support pairing).

Husband doesn't run. So if gps is more for sport related activities than directions gps isn't a factor I need to consider. He has screen on phone approx 1/3 bright on the scale-me-bobby so I'm not too worried that screen brightness will drain battery during his working day.

Thank you all so much for your help

 

[BlueMoon63]

Series 0? Um, showing how little I know here.... do Apple stores still stock series 0? Or would I need to check another retailer? The os not being compatable with future iPhones would bother me on this. (If future iPhones don't support pairing).

Husband doesn't run. So if gps is more for sport related activities than directions gps isn't a factor I need to consider. He has screen on phone approx 1/3 bright on the scale-me-bobby so I'm not too worried that screen brightness will drain battery during his working day.

Thank you all so much for your help

Take advantage of the extra speed of the s1 instead of cutting costs more. Even though the new O/S helps, you want to offer the better solution. I definitely notice a difference.

As a husband, I would want the newer S1 even if to get more when he upgrades and sells

 

[Julien]

Series 0? Um, showing how little I know here.... do Apple stores still stock series 0? Or would I need to check another retailer? The os not being compatable with future iPhones would bother me on this. (If future iPhones don't support pairing).

Husband doesn't run. So if gps is more for sport related activities than directions gps isn't a factor I need to consider. He has screen on phone approx 1/3 bright on the scale-me-bobby so I'm not too worried that screen brightness will drain battery during his working day.

Thank you all so much for your help

You would have to find it in another retailer. For instance in the US Best Buy has them around $200. In all likelihood the wOS will be compatible for several more releases. Especially since the main difference in the S1/S2 is only a dual core architecture.