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Series 2 is thicker, heavier and has a ceramic back

Phogro

Phogro

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Aug 13, 2015
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Found the following on Apple's product page for an individual watch.

Series 1
  • Height: 42.5mm
  • Width: 36.4mm
  • Depth: 10.5mm
  • Case Weight: 30g
Series 2
  • Height: 42.5mm
  • Width: 36.4mm
  • Depth: 11.4mm
  • Case Weight: 34.2g

Series 1 Features
  • Gold aluminum case
  • S1P dual-core processor
  • Splash resistant1
  • Ion-X glass
  • OLED Retina display with Force Touch (450 nits)
  • Composite back
  • Digital Crown
  • Heart rate sensor, accelerometer, and gyroscope
  • Ambient light sensor
  • Speaker and microphone
  • Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n 2.4GHz)
  • Bluetooth 4.0
  • Up to 18 hours of battery life3
  • watchOS 3
Series 2 Features
  • Gold aluminum case
  • S2 dual-core processor
  • Built-in GPS
  • Water resistant 50 meters2
  • Ion-X glass
  • 2x brighter OLED Retina display with Force Touch (1000 nits)
  • Ceramic back
  • Digital Crown
  • Heart rate sensor, accelerometer, and gyroscope
  • Ambient light sensor
  • Direct fire speaker and microphone
  • Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n 2.4GHz)
  • Bluetooth 4.0
  • Up to 18 hours of battery life3
  • watchOS 3
 
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This is....disappointing. 4 grams will barely be distinguishable, but disappointed to see that it is thicker.
 
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Is it at all ironic that Apple made the watch thicker, while they tend to make ever successive update to a piece of hardware, thinner? (Yes, I know there is the exception being iPad 3).
 
Sukach said:
This is....disappointing. 4 grams will barely be distinguishable, but disappointed to see that it is thicker.
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It likely has the bigger battery and is not listed.

Just to add 1000nits is enormous for an OLED and on par with most higher end TVs. Will be much better in sunlight.
 
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Dwalls90 said:
Is it at all ironic that Apple made the watch thicker, while they tend to make ever successive update to a piece of hardware, thinner? (Yes, I know there is the exception being iPad 3).
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iPhone 3G, iPad 3, iPhone 6s, iPad mini 2... They're actually not that adverse to making things thicker, they just like to make a large song and dance when things get thinner and we tend to remember those!
 
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I'd like to see the teardown.

My guesses:

- GPS chip and associated antenna.

- New method of attaching the back for 50m of water resistance (although this feels less likely as I type it).

- Fatter battery only in the Series 2(?)
 
Lobwedgephil said:
TV's are horrible in sunlight.
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Full sunlight is over 8000nits. It is just not possible to build a display with that much light output (and no current OLED can do it) without an enormous amount of power. In a watch display it would probably need more power than a 110V 10amp could supply and would likely need a separate liquid cooling system.
 
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Dwalls90 said:
Is it at all ironic that Apple made the watch thicker, while they tend to make ever successive update to a piece of hardware, thinner? (Yes, I know there is the exception being iPad 3).
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And the iPhone 3G. Not really ironic because they'll likely make all subsequent iterations thinner over time (just like the iPhone).
 
Is Watch thicker than high end mechanical watches or other smart watches like the new Samsung Gear 3?
 
Sukach said:
This is....disappointing. 4 grams will barely be distinguishable, but disappointed to see that it is thicker.
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0.9mm? You say you won't be able to distinguish 4 grams but 0.9mm?.. That's disappointing?! How thin are your wrists?!
 
Yay, ceramic back! I loved my Sport but that composite back could make my hyper-sensitive skin itchy. It sticks more to the skin when you sweat. I wonder if that fact was brought to Apple's attention so they decided to fix that.

I'm very excited about the new Watches. I'm not ordering until next spring at the earliest, but I'm definitely excited.
 
GrumpyMom said:
Yay, ceramic back! I loved my Sport but that composite back could make my hyper-sensitive skin itchy. It sticks more to the skin when you sweat. I wonder if that fact was brought to Apple's attention so they decided to fix that.

I'm very excited about the new Watches. I'm not ordering until next spring at the earliest, but I'm definitely excited.
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Are you sure the Sport version will have ceramic back? Highly unlikely IMO.
 
matrix07 said:
Are you sure the Sport version will have ceramic back? Highly unlikely IMO.
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Series 2 (Sport) does but series 1 doesn't.

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Julien said:
Series 1 is only to offer a low cost :apple:Watch entry option point.
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well, i don't care about the GPS as I don't run outside but the extra thickness would bother me as I use the 38mm... could use the better/faster processor but not downgrading to aluminum for sure. meh. guess the v1 steel is a keeper for now.
 
GrumpyMom said:
Yay, ceramic back! I loved my Sport but that composite back could make my hyper-sensitive skin itchy. It sticks more to the skin when you sweat. I wonder if that fact was brought to Apple's attention so they decided to fix that.

I'm very excited about the new Watches. I'm not ordering until next spring at the earliest, but I'm definitely excited.
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NO CERAMIC BACK ON ALUMINIUM. Period
 
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